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Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be done

Post by .William. » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:08 pm

Hi,

The Dutch bank ABN Amro (https://www.abnamro.nl/en/personal/paym ... index.html) has Apps for Internet banking for Windows, Mac, IPhone and Android.

I asked them why there isn't one for Linux.

In their reply they said that Linux is not suitable for Internet banking.

Transscription from the ABN Amro Bank statement:
What operating systems are suitable for Internet Banking?
Internet Banking is available for the following operating systems:
- Windows: XP, Vista or Windows 7 or 8
- Apple: Macintosh OS X from 10.6

What webbrowsers (Internet programs) are supported?
As webbrowsers, the following are suitable:
- Internet Explorer 8, 9 and 10
- Mozilla Firefox 4 and higher
- Google Chrome

On an Apple-computer they are:
- Safari 5 and higher
- Mozilla Firefox 4 and higher
- Google Chrome
The ABN Amro Internet banking Apps are programmed in the Java language.

Considering the fact that both Java and two of four of the mentioned web-browsers are available on Linux, I think the ABN Amro statement that Linux isn't suitable for Internet banking is incorrect.

Can anyone help me formulate the fact that you can indeed do Internet banking on a Linux ? (unless you think I am wrong ofcourse)

Please do not make this a discussion on weather Internet banking should be avoided all together. (I am fully aware this is the case and am also aware of the fact that given the events of recent years you should probably avoid the use of banks all together.)

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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by iironjade » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:26 pm

They're talking nonsense. They just don't want to admit they know nothing about Linux, including the fact that Android is based on it. HSBC said the same to me. They also claimed not to support Windows 7.
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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by vrkalak » Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:33 pm

My Bank (US) agrees with you, but I don't.

Most banks, use MS for their banking needs.
The Bank uses Linux-Servers, but they a Linux Desktop not so secure. (I checked)

They think that, Banks Android App (cellphone/tablet) more 'secure' > still uses Linux

I am not tell you switch banks or browser or desktop you use.
With the trouble the Credit Cards are having with 'hackers" -- :?

I have found Linux infinitely 'more' secure than MS Windows
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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by tdockery97 » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:06 pm

I have no problems using Mint & Chrome for my online banking. The only catch is that if your bank doesn't consider Linux as "approved", you could have big trouble if something happens. They would immediately blame Linux.
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Post by .William. » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:32 pm

Thanks for all your replies.

The problem is that to be able to use my banks Internet banking I need to install a browser-plugin first.
Installing is impossible, the ABN Amro website will tell me my operating system is not supported.
My guess is that since Java is generally supported under Linux Mint, the website from the bank 'reads' the operating system 'behind the webbrowser' and blocks the install on the grounds that requirements aren't met.
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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by xfrank » Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:54 pm

I'm using LMDE since about one year for banking without any problem.
I browse with firefox. Linux seems to me more secure than windows for online banking.
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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by grizzler » Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:01 pm

.William. wrote:The problem is that to be able to use my banks Internet banking I need to install a browser-plugin first.
Installing is impossible, the ABN Amro website will tell me my operating system is not supported.
My guess is that since Java is generally supported under Linux Mint, the website from the bank 'reads' the operating system 'behind the webbrowser' and blocks the install on the grounds that requirements aren't met.
Apparently their site reads the browser's User-Agent string. There's a plug-in for Firefox to change that: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... developers
Maybe you could try that?

By the way, I don't think trying to convince them to change their mind would work. Banks aren't exactly the most flexible of organisations and the ABN Amro can be particularly arrogant and asinine, in my (neighbour's) experience.

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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by Habitual » Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:38 am

grizzler wrote:There's a plug-in for Firefox to change that: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... developers
Maybe you could try that?

By the way, I don't think trying to convince them to change their mind would work. Banks aren't exactly the most flexible of organisations and the ABN Amro can be particularly arrogant and asinine, in my (neighbour's) experience.
This works for Netflix, so possibly for this financial establishment also?
I installed User Agent Switcher 0.7.3 for Firefox
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choose Firefox15.0a1 Win7 64 for your Agent.
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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by Tejas_0 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:39 am

Just one small hitch here. Believe browser plugin unless mistaken operating system dependent, following recent experience trying to install VLC browser plugin :(
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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by Pierre » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:57 am

this local bank doesn't require anything other than an 'updated browser'

their web site is nothing special, a bit slow maybe, but certainly can be accessed via any 'net based gadget.
- requiring things, such as plug-ins, seems like 'over the top' security.

- using a 'nix based O/S would be more secure than using any M$ based O/S, particularly when banking.
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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by Habitual » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:22 pm

.William. wrote:Hi,

The Dutch bank ABN Amro (https://www.abnamro.nl/en/personal/paym ... index.html) has Apps for Internet banking for Windows, Mac, IPhone and Android.
Neither https://www.abnamro.nl/portalserver/en/ ... index.html nor
https://www.abnamro.nl/portalserver/en/ ... dex.html?l
say anything that I can see that would prevent me from logging in.
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Re: Internet banking on Linux - My bank says it can't be don

Post by iironjade » Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:01 pm

Change banks. Maybe that'll get their attention, although I doubt it.
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