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Firefox 29...just me?

Post by xox101 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:05 pm

Anybody else had a nasty shock upgrading to Firefox 29? Looks like a Google Chrome clone! Hide CaptionTitlebar Plus addon no longer works so no way to get rid of the large expanse of blank grey toolbar taking up valuable space on my 12 inch notebook. Not much definition between tabs and the writing looks very washed out to say the least! Seems a lot slower than 28 to connect to sites as well. Not a happy camper! Will it look any better in 17?

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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by elverion » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:15 pm

Firefox 29 was released today for all major OSs. It's not just you. The UI has been majorly changed and despite the claim of being "more configurable!" that is, in fact, completely false. The customization options are next to nothing right now. Perhaps it'll be fixed in the release.

I do keep people saying, "They just copied Chrome's UI!" Though you didn't quite say this, it should be cleared up for others that it isn't the case. Firefox actually had this design prototyped long before Chrome adopted the look; Mozilla just ended up benching it for quite some time.

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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by xox101 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 2:25 pm

Yeah, I know this is the look from Australis and not really copied from Chrome. Anyway, I went here

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic ... &t=2824649

Installed the Classic Theme Restorer addon at the bottom of the page, reinstalled Titlebar Plus addon and everything is back to very close to what it looked like in 28. I don't like change! LOL!

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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by Night Wing » Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:59 pm

One can go to the Mozilla site and download the linux Firefox 24.5.0 ESR (Extended Support Release 32-bit or 64 bit) tarball and then after extracting the tarball, install linux Firefox 24.5.0 ESR. One gets the security fixes for Firefox 29, but 24.5.0 ESR has the old Firefox UI look of 28.

http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/all/

If one wants to try the ESR version, one has to remove/uninstall Firefox 29.
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by kromaz » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:00 pm

It seems that with every Firefox update it demands more system resources. The new interface doesn't bother me since you can always customize, what does concern me is performance lost. I'm debating on installing version 29 until I hear more feedback. For those using Firefox 29, can you let us know what type of performance your seeing? Also posting system specs would be nice. :) Thanks
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by I2k4 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:14 pm

Installed today on my netbook (Atom 1gb RAM) and it installed and synchronized without issues and runs the same as FF28, but not so sure I'll like the GUI changes. I like to drag all the icons / buttons I use into one toolbar to save space, and this seems less configurable. And it's a nuisance to have to learn to find things after grinning developers moved them all over the place, just because they can.

Update 140504 - First impression above stands. While sync of my existing installs worked fine (though I'd hoped sync would expand to cover my GUI configuration) I did a fresh install of FF29 on an old backup machine. FF informed me it would not sync the fresh install with my existing installations - I would have to delink and reset all my other machines to the new Mozilla login to connect them with the additional machine. There was no way for the fresh install to use the existing login for sync.. Haven't bothered so far. This could create a nuisance / problem for users installing Mint 17 with FF29, who might have other FF installations on other machines, or other boots on the same machine, all of which would have to be manually migrated to the new FF login.
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by oakhilltop » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:48 pm

The colorful tabs add on helps with the tabs blending together. I think I prefer the old interface.

Hopefully this version won't keep crashing. So far, it hasn't.

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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by poliltimmy » Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:05 pm

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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by Previous1 » Tue Apr 29, 2014 9:14 pm

(posted in the wrong thread - a mod may move this) - Looks like Wheezy has newer packages then Precise. Didn't expect that. :o Only works from Mint 14 onwards then. :|

Try changing the source from wheezy-backports to squeeze-backports

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deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports iceweasel-esr
and apt-get update. Or install the mozilla build.
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by eanfrid » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:20 am

Wheezy was released 1 year later than Precise. Many packages are newer in Wheezy than in Precise.
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by olle » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:52 am

kromaz wrote:It seems that with every Firefox update it demands more system resources. The new interface doesn't bother me since you can always customize, what does concern me is performance lost. I'm debating on installing version 29 until I hear more feedback. For those using Firefox 29, can you let us know what type of performance your seeing? Also posting system specs would be nice. :) Thanks
You cannot customize: browser.tabs.onTop true/false selection is not functioning... :(

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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by Previous1 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:11 am

eanfrid wrote:Wheezy was released 1 year later than Precise. Many packages are newer in Wheezy than in Precise.
Wheezy was frozen for 10 months, at least, so not exactly.
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by Adelante » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:46 am

2x Intel Celeron CPU G540 @ 2.5 GHz
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I'm using Firefox 29 on Lubuntu 14.04 and Ubuntu 14.04; also 12.04-based Elementary Luna. No problems at all. No crashes or freezes. It's fast and smooth, performance-wise. I'm thrilled it resolved scrolling hitches I had been suffering for quite a while. I wasn't crazy about the aesthetic of the new toolbar, but after rearranging things, I'm very happy with Firefox 29.
kromaz wrote:For those using Firefox 29, can you let us know what type of performance your seeing? Also posting system specs would be nice. :) Thanks
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by Previous1 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:42 pm

Well I've made the switch... to Iceweasel 29. I won't be surprised if, unlike Ubuntu's version, it won't crash at all. Will see. For my UI problems I'm using Status4evar from git (to be frank, I don't like Theme Restorer and its clutter).
You cannot customize: browser.tabs.onTop true/false selection is not functioning...
You can do it with Theme Restorer - alternatively, use the GNOME Adwaita theme.
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by kromaz » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:58 pm

I decided to installed Firefox 29 and must say I'm pleased with the performance. I customized the interface almost exactly the way I had on Firefox 28. If anyone is debating on the install of Firefox 29, just do it. Well worth it! Thanks all for the feedback. Cheers :D
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by clfarron4 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 5:10 pm

I've known this UI update was coming since Firefox 27 was marked stable (because I was using Aurora at the time).
Problems? Tell us EXACTLY what you've done and what you expected to happen, IN DETAIL. That will save us questions, and we should get along better,

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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by MikeF90000 » Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:39 pm

Call me NOT amused by this gratuitous UI change and tremendous waste of Mozilla resources.
The good: All of the 'settings' are now in one place - the 'hamburger' menu icon at the upper right.
The annoying: Many buttons cannot be moved, except perhaps through an add-on. Likewise tabs-on-top. No small button options - apparently more bowing to the elusive exploding mobile device market. Background tabs can't be read with some themes - black text on dark gray.
The bad: Fewer customization options built in, now require add-ons which may or may not be maintained by their devs in the future. NO ADD-ON BAR - UI 'designers' forced everything onto the Navigation bar. Major What-The-.... if you use many add-ons. In addition to the above Classic Theme Restorer there is a simple add-on 'Add On Bar' to restore one - recommended.

Not sure about 'better performance' - with one Google Maps tab open on Win7, FF uses 163MB vs 102MB for PaleMoon. Qupzilla uses even less but cannot use FF add-ons. Google Chrome or Chromium - HAH - same memory usage as FF but spread over 11 processes.

Sticking with old FF versions or ESR is not a good long term strategy. I'm now going to look at the Linux build of PaleMoon, a stripped down fork of FF for modern hardware.
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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by ShyGuy » Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:13 pm

I'm still waiting for Shumway...

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Re: Firefox 29...just me?

Post by delta78 » Thu May 01, 2014 4:03 am

I for one welcome the UI change and I fell in love with the new version. :D It's very clean and looks fresh. Also, I've noticed that it opens the pages faster than before. I like that every option is put in place. Overall feels awesome!

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