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Drygar
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LM 17.3 and Firefox

Post by Drygar » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:22 am

Hi !

LM 17.2 was very very stable built for me (LM 17.2 XFCE + kernel 4.2). For the whole period I used it (several months), I only had 2-3 crashes.


I upgraded to 17.3 XFCE (via clean install) these days and I am seeing these issues, too:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=213858

However, the difference is that it is only Firefox - I am a web animal and spend lots of my time with this PC on the net.
While I am not a Google fan, I listen to a lot of music and one of my open tabs is YouTube. The rest are other sites.
On Day 2 Firefox crashed with 1 tab YouTube, 2 tabs a forum (not here).
On Day 2 again, the whole OS crashed (hung) while I was only playing YouTube video

Now on Day 4, same thing happened twice - YouTube playing + other sites open. The whole system hung unexpectedly and I had to do hard restart.

Using top, i can see that YouTube only consumes at lest 50% CPU
With 2 more tabs opened, CPU is even 127 % (how could this be?)

It is very annoying to restart the whole system while doing something important because the OS is hung with the same beat repeating.
Videos/movements on YouTube videos are laggy (sound is OK).

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CPU~Dual core Intel Celeron N2820 (-MCP-) speed/max~1296/2399 MHz Kernel~4.2.0-23-generic x86_64 Up~32 min Mem~685.2/3835.9MB HDD~120.0GB(27.1% used) Procs~164 Client~Shell inxi~2.2.28  

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top - 09:22:52 up 36 min,  2 users,  load average: 2,54, 2,11, 1,79
Tasks: 162 total,   2 running, 160 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 36,3 us, 10,0 sy,  0,0 ni, 53,6 id,  0,0 wa,  0,0 hi,  0,0 si,  0,0 st
KiB Mem:   3927960 total,  1810092 used,  2117868 free,    68056 buffers
KiB Swap:  4073468 total,        0 used,  4073468 free.  1058712 cached Mem

  PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND     
 2306 me     20   0 1614228 439448  95612 S  64,7 11,2  24:00.28 firefox     
 1222 root      20   0  309348  48312  27960 S  11,6  1,2   2:12.82 Xorg        
 2918 me     20   0  673252  31796  24824 S   4,0  0,8   0:00.86 xfce4-term+ 
 1939 me      9 -11  436552  10624   8364 S   3,0  0,3   1:05.05 pulseaudio  
 1912 me     20   0  622472  27160  22216 S   2,0  0,7   0:02.66 xfce4-panel 
 1908 me     20   0  165292  19940  15848 S   1,3  0,5   0:13.15 xfwm4       
    6 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3  0,0   0:01.20 kworker/u8+ 
  127 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3  0,0   0:00.58 kworker/u8+
(.......)
Just want to mention that one of the very first things I do is to remove the Adobe Flash, so it should be using HTML5 for the videos.
Linux kernel 4.2 - never had issues with it (with 17.2) and system seems running a lot smoother than kernels 3.13 an 3.16
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Re: LM 17.3 and Firefox

Post by Drygar » Thu Jan 14, 2016 3:27 am

By the way, what do you think of Firefox ESR ?

Why doesn't LM uses Firefox ESR - it seems definitely more stable to me. I prefer stability and since LM is all based on Ubuntu builds that are supposed to be stable (LTS) I guess Firefox should also be as stable as possible.

Are these any specific LM cons if I uninstall Firefox (e.g. using Synaptics) and manually download/install Firefox ESR using these instructions:
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/in ... efox-linux

I read on the net that occasionally I need to run it with gksudo to let it update.
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Re: LM 17.3 and Firefox

Post by Cosmo. » Thu Jan 14, 2016 5:57 am

Your problem might come from a defective FF-profile.
To find this out do the following:
Close FF.
Open your file-manager and make hidden files visible (press ctrl-h).
Rename the folder .mozilla to .mozilla.bck
Start FF, this will create automatically a new FF-profile.
Check.

To get back to your old profile:
Close FF.
Delete the new folder .mozilla
Rename the folder .mozila.bck back to .mozilla
Start FF. Done.

Regarding ESR: I use it since day 1 after the first ESR release and had never problems with it.
You can use this tutorial for the how to to install it. My tutorial covers also some Mint-specific aspects.

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Re: LM 17.3 and Firefox

Post by MtnDewManiac » Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:36 am

Drygar wrote:Linux kernel 4.2
Do you have a discrete graphics card, or is your computer using the Intel Celeron CPU to perform graphics-related tasks? Seems like I saw something about one of the 4.x kernels having an issue with Intel graphics.

Try reverting your kernel. If your issue then goes away, you probably won't be very happy, lol (since you wish to use your current kernel) - but at least you'll know what to troubleshoot and can experiment with different versions (or at least read their release notes and any (known) issues/regressions).

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Re: LM 17.3 and Firefox

Post by TheMonster0 » Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:19 am

To be honest, I been having so much trouble lately with Firefox, I just uninstalled it. For browsing, I use Chromium and Pale Moon. You can get a no fuss Linux installer for Pale Moon from this site:

http://linux.palemoon.org/

I have noticed the latest version of Firefox has been buggy and has become so user-unfriendly. On my sister's Win 8 laptop and my mom's Win 10 desktop, I have switched them to new browsers. On my sister's, she likes Opera and Seamonkey, and my mom has no problems with Pale Moon. I even switched my neighbour over to Pale Moon on her Win 7 laptop. I became aware of how fast and stable Pale Moon is after using Tahr Puppy on a laptop I bought off of eBay while waiting for the new hd I ordered for it. It might be based off of the Firefox codebase, but it is a horse of a different colour. And you can still use Firefox addons.

Just my 5 cents (since in Canada we no longer have a 1 cent coin :D )

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