Disappearing Scrollbars. sigh.

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appalbarry
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Disappearing Scrollbars. sigh.

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I've spent a couple of hours searching for a solution with no luck.

Just did a fresh install of Cinnamon 18.1 on an older Dell laptop. It works great except for one thing: the infamous disappearing scroll bars and up/down arrows. Nemo being the case in point. Can someone confirm that there really is no simple way to make the scroll bars behave properly? (Properly means: they're always there, don't disappear, and have arrows top and bottom.)

I'll admit that I think this is a pretty dumb change,

If there isn't a simple fix let me know and I'll at least file a bug report.

Thanks,

Barry

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barry@barry-Latitude-E6400 ~ $ inxi -Fxzd
System:    Host: barry-Latitude-E6400 Kernel: 4.4.0-83-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
           Distro: Linux Mint 18.1 Serena
Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Latitude E6400
           Mobo: Dell model: 0RX495 Bios: Dell v: A32 date: 02/09/2012
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 Duo P8400 (-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9044
           clock speeds: max: 2268 MHz 1: 800 MHz 2: 2267 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G98M [Quadro NVS 160M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1440x900@60.11hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on NV98
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-83-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection
           driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: efe0 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel WiFi Link 5100 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 0c:00.0
           IF: wlp12s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 250.1GB (4.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD2500BEKT size: 250.1GB
           Optical: /dev/sr0 model: HL-DT-ST CDRWDVD MU10N
           rev: A105 dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd
           Features: speed: 24x multisession: yes
           audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw state: running
Partition: ID-1: / size: 226G used: 7.1G (4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 4.21GB used: 0.22GB (5%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 46.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 191 Uptime: 6 days Memory: 2260.5/3876.0MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35
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JosephM
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Re: Disappearing Scrollbars. sigh.

Post by JosephM »

You can disable the disappearing (overlay) scrollbars in Cinnamon by going to Cinnamon settings->Effects and turning off the "Overlay scroll bars". As for the arrows, it's up to the "Controls" theme you are using to determine that. Not many themes support them now but this has been brought up many times here. A search should bring up some ways to solve it.
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Re: Disappearing Scrollbars. sigh.

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Why do want to see scrollbars, if there is nothing to scroll?

Regarding the up / down arrows: I cannot remember, that I saw them in any version of Cinnamon since the beginning.

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Re: Disappearing Scrollbars. sigh.

Post by appalbarry »

Thanks all. "Overlay Scroll Bars" is one of those things that's not particularly clear until after you know about it.

YMMV but I rely a lot on the scroll bars when navigating large documents or pages. They are a fast way to see where you are in the overall document (where is the slider bar?) , and roughly how long is the page or document (how big or small is the slider?).

Again, YMMV but a lot of the time clicking on up or down arrows works better for me than trying to drag a slider to find a specific position. Some of that is related to incipient Essential Tremor, which can make mouse work difficult because of hand twitches.

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Re: Disappearing Scrollbars. sigh.

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Perhaps this helps a little bit: You can use the scroll bar to move the content page-wise by shift-clicking above or below the bar. In Firefox you can also right click there, if you do not want to use both hands. (Sadly the latter method does not work in the Cinnamon windows or in the x-apps.)

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Re: Disappearing Scrollbars. sigh.

Post by Schultz »

Concerning the up/down scroll arrows: Have you seen this thread below? It worked for me (I'm on Mate, though I don't think that would matter??). Follow both links in that thread.

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=249218

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Re: Disappearing Scrollbars. sigh.

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The OP uses Cinnamon. I cannot comment regarding Mate.

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Re: Disappearing Scrollbars. sigh.

Post by JosephM »

Schultz wrote:Concerning the up/down scroll arrows: Have you seen this thread below? It worked for me (I'm on Mate, though I don't think that would matter??). Follow both links in that thread.

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=249218
These changes aren't desktop specific. They should work the same on Cinnamon.
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