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Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by onedollarbill » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:11 pm

I'm fairly new in the Linux world, so bare with me. I have exhausted my resources in finding how to install Tellico 3.0.2 into Linux Mint 18.2. The Software Manager has the older 2.3.9 version. I really like the program but want to upgrade to the newer version. Can anyone give me some guidance?

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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by jimallyn » Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:50 pm

There is a PPA here:

https://launchpad.net/~dominik-stadler/ ... ubuntu/ppa

Or you can download the source code and compile it yourself:

tellico-project.org/files/tellico-3.0.2.tar.xz

The tar.xz file contains instructions for compiling. I would try the PPA first.
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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by phd21 » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:59 pm

Hi "onedollarbill",

Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux Mint and its excellent forum !

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

It would help to know more about your system setup. If you run "inxi -Fxzd" from the console terminal prompt, highlight the results, copy and paste them back here, that should provide enough information.

I have had a lot of problems installing the newer version of the really nice "Tellico" version 3.x.x, a collections manager of books, videos, music, and whatever else you want to catalog in my Linux Mint KDE 18.1.

Here is what I had to do to get this installed, and I could not update the old version to this new version. If you have any data in the previous versions of Tellico export it, then import it after installing the new version..

I had originally installed "Tellico" as I usually do from the Mint repositories (Software Manager or Synaptic Package Manager (SPM)). But, after adding the PPA for the newer version, it would not install, had all kind of issues. So, I removed completely (purge) the existing "Tellico", but it still would not work.

Now I found out why. Sometimes (rarely) there is software where the older version is not compatible with the newer version, or the version in a PPA conflicts with the one in the Mint repositories. And, apparently removing Tellico did not remove all of the other Tellico components for the previous versions.

Run these commands to purge (remove) the older Tellico completely.

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sudo apt purge tellico

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sudo apt purge tellico-data

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sudo apt purge tellico-doc

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sudo apt purge tellico-scripts
Now, you can install the PPA and install Tellico version 3.x.x as usual.

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dominik-stadler/ppa

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sudo apt-get update

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sudo apt install tellico

Hope this helps ...
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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by onedollarbill » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:42 am

I appreciate all of your help. I tried to follow your instructions . . . everything was looking good until I got this:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
tellico : Depends: libkf5kiogui5 but it is not installable
Depends: libkf5newstuff5 (>= 5.27.0) but 5.18.0-0ubuntu1 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5core5a (>= 5.6.0~beta) but 5.5.1+dfsg-16ubuntu7.5 is to be installed
Depends: libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.6.0~beta) but 5.5.1+dfsg-16ubuntu7.5 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

Where do I go from here. Forgive my newbie ignorance. I appreciate all of you who have tried to help me.

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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by onedollarbill » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:47 am

By the way, here is the results I get from typing "inxi - Fxzd"

inxi -Fxzd
System: Host: Jeremiah Kernel: 4.4.0-53-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
Desktop: Cinnamon 3.4.4 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.2)
Distro: Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya
Machine: Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME H270-PLUS v: Rev X.0x
Bios: American Megatrends v: 0316 date: 11/22/2016
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-7700 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 28802
clock speeds: max: 3601 MHz 1: 800 MHz 2: 3601 MHz 3: 800 MHz
4: 800 MHz 5: 800 MHz 6: 1200 MHz 7: 800 MHz 8: 1000 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA Device 1c02 bus-ID: 01:00.0
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB/PCIe/SSE2
GLX Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 375.39 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio: Card-1 Intel Device a2f0 driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3
Card-2 NVIDIA Device 10f1 driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-53-generic
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 04:00.0
IF: enp4s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1136.3GB (32.1% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: ADATA_SU800 size: 128.0GB
ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB
ID-3: USB /dev/sdc model: Cruzer size: 8.0GB
Optical-1: /dev/sr0 model: N/A rev: N/A dev-links: cdrom
Features: speed: 48x multisession: yes
audio: yes dvd: no rw: none state: N/A
Optical-2: /dev/sr1 model: N/A rev: N/A dev-links: cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
Features: speed: 48x multisession: yes
audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: N/A
Partition: ID-1: / size: 102G used: 64G (66%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 17.11GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 0.0:33C
Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info: Processes: 256 Uptime: 3:35 Memory: 1300.5/15979.4MB
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35

Hope this helps, also.

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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by phd21 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:49 am

Hi "onedollarbill",

You are welcome from those of us who responded...

It would help to know more about your system setup. If you run "inxi -Fxzd" from the console terminal prompt, highlight the results, copy and paste them back here, that should provide enough information.

If you are using Linux Mint Cinnamon, Mate, or Xfce, then you might need to install "kde-runtime" from the Software Manager or Synaptic Package Manager (SPM), then go through the installation instructions for Tellico again.

Hope this helps ...
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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by Hoser Rob » Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:36 pm

Those original error msgs smell like incompatible libraries to me. And looking at their site it isn't very clear which ubuntu/mint release the versions are for.

Now, is there some particular reason you need a newer version than what's in the repos? Is there some feature in the new one you can't do without (which happens but not often) or do you just want the newest one?

The only ppas I have on 2 machines running 17.3 are for SMplayer and VLC to get HEVC playback and a couple of YouTube dl'ers. I don't compile and build software from tar sources unless I seriously need it. The last time I did that was for a backported wireless driver.

You are not going to get the latest software on a LTS Linux distro like Mint or Ubuntu, and that's for stability. If you add enough ppas and install enough tarballs without knowing what you're doing you are going to have an unstable system.

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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by onedollarbill » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:49 pm

Hoser Rob .....
Thanks for your input. Yes, I was hoping for the latest version of Tellico (3.0.2). I had tried the one that was installed by the software manager which was version 2.3.9 and I just figured before I got started logging hundreds of books into this collection manager I'd go ahead and get the latest version. But, it has been a pain in the butt trying to do so. Some of that is probably due to my inexperience with Linux. There is a slight upgrade - version 2.3.12 - that is suppose to have some improvements but I've not been to successful with that one either.

You are right about stability of the system and that is exactly why I decided to call you all you "experts" before I went nuts and did something stupid.

Thanks for your and everyone else's help.

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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by phd21 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:36 pm

Hi "onedollarbill"

Did you read my last post, install the "kde-runtime" which is safe on any edition and version of Linux Mint, then use my instructions to install the current Tellico? And, if so, what happened.
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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by onedollarbill » Mon Jul 31, 2017 2:44 pm

phd21
I checked out your suggestion and found that it is already installed. In fact, it says that if I remove it, I'd lose kmymoney and the old version of Tellico (ver. 2.3.9).

Kde-runtime ver. is 4:15.12.3-oubuntu1

Any more Ideas? I'm about ready to settle for the old version of Tellico, though I understand ver. 2.3.12 has some improvements and beneficial additions.

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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by phd21 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:11 pm

Hi "onedollarbill",

Wow, that took a lot of time and effort to figure this out. I had to boot into Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.2 on a USB flash drive stick to experiment with this.

Okay, I now know how to install the new "Tellico" into Linux Mint 18.x versions of Cinnamon, Mate, or Xfce, see the screenshots below.

Prelude: Keep in mind that "Tellico" is an integrated KDE application, and the new version is very new and requires newer KDE libraries than those that are currently in the Linux Mint repositories for Cinnamon, Mate, and Xfce editions. While I was going through an incredible amount of stuff (trial and error) trying to figure this out, I had an epiphany, why was this working in my Linux Mint KDE 18.1 and not in Linux Mint Cinnamon 18.2, and why all the dependency errors? That's because in Linux Mint KDE 18.x the Kubuntu Backport PPA for KDE updates is automatically installed, but is not installed on other editions of Linux Mint. After I installed the "Kubuntu Backport PPA", updated and upgraded, and rebooted, I was able to install the new version of "Tellico". I also installed "kdepim-runtime", but I do not think that is necessary for "Tellico" to install, but if you get any messages stopping the Tellico installation, then install that as well, and continue the Tellico installation.

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports

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sudo apt-get update
Now here are some considerations:
I already had a working installation of Cinnamon 18.2 on this USB flash drive stick with "Persistence" and with various KDE applications installed.

In order to get the new Tellico application installed, the "kde-runtime" has to be updated and upgraded which is a good thing. But, this caused the system to remove certain applications (not their data), which after the upgrade command below finished, these apps had to be re-installed, KeePassX, Kolourpaint4, Ksnapshot, "kde-runtime"; in your case that might include "KMyMoney", so make sure your data is backed up, and if need be, you can re-install KMyMoney too.

After adding the Kubuntu Backport PPA, updating the software sources, Run the command below... Take notes on any application it removes, so that you can re-install those.

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sudo apt upgrade
Then, you can use the instructions I gave you before to install "Tellico"; and like I said before, I do not think you can update the older version of Tellico even if it removes KMyMoney, so run the purge commands I gave before first, then install the new version of Tellico, and if need be KMyMoney... Note that any other KDE applications should work well or better from now on with the Kubuntu Backport PPA installed.


Of course another option is that you can always install Linux Mint KDE 18.2 and use it, although I very much like Cinnamon and it works great, including running KDE applications (from now on I'll just add this Kubuntu Backport PPA after installing Cinnamon and before installing KDE apps).


Hope this helps ...
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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by onedollarbill » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:01 pm

phd21 - You are a genius! Everything went as you said it would. I have to admit that while everything was updating, I could feel butterflies in my stomach . . . but, I was trusting you. And, guess what . . . at this point, I can't find anything that I need to re-install. Even my KMyMoney is still working. During the process, I became anxious about my VirtualBox installation. But, it and everything else seems to be working perfectly.

I can't begin to thank you enough for all the time and effort you put into this little "project." I wish there were something I could do for you as my way of saying thanks.

God bless you, my friend.

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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by phd21 » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:18 pm

Hi "onedollarbill",

You are welcome.

Glad it worked for you...
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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by arddix » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:02 am

Excellent article solved my problems
Thanks :D

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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by phd21 » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:09 am

Hi "arddix",

You are welcome...
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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by Fontenele » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:19 pm

Is never too late to say thanks. So, thanks phd21 for the resolution to this problem.

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Re: Installing Tellico 3.0.2 in Mint 18.2

Post by phd21 » Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:24 pm

Hi Fontenele,

You are welcome...
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