Linux Mint 12 Lisa XFCE software sources update

[anonymousparis]

Hi,

I have noticed, I cannot update this old, but still cool version of Mintie. I edited the sources list with repositories using:

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sudo abiword /etc/apt/sources.list

and the standard guide from here:
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=79533

I have chosen the sources list like this:

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/debian main upstream import
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/squeeze main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze main non-free
# deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main contrib non-free
# deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze-backports main

what I get in the console is:

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Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze InRelease
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze Release.gpg                          
Ign http://security.debian.org main InRelease                                  
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze Release                              
Ign http://security.debian.org main Release.gpg                                
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze/main TranslationIndex      
Ign http://security.debian.org main Release                          
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main InRelease                          
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com main InRelease
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze/non-free TranslationIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org main/contrib TranslationIndex                   
Ign http://security.debian.org main/non-free TranslationIndex                  
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main Release.gpg                        
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com main Release.gpg                   
Err http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 Packages         
  404  Not Found
Err http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze/non-free i386 Packages     
  404  Not Found
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze/main Translation-en_US     
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze/main Translation-en        
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze/non-free Translation-en_US 
Ign http://www.deb-multimedia.org squeeze/non-free Translation-en    
Err http://security.debian.org main/contrib i386 Packages            
  404  Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80]
Err http://security.debian.org main/non-free i386 Packages           
  404  Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80]
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com main Release                       
Ign http://security.debian.org main/contrib Translation-en_US        
Ign http://security.debian.org main/contrib Translation-en
Ign http://security.debian.org main/non-free Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.debian.org main/non-free Translation-en
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com main/import TranslationIndex
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com main/upstream TranslationIndex               
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main Release                                      
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib TranslationIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free TranslationIndex                    
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib i386 Packages                        
  404  Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.89 80]
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free i386 Packages                       
  404  Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.89 80]
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com main/upstream i386 Packages
  404  Not Found [IP: 68.235.39.11 80]
Err http://packages.linuxmint.com main/import i386 Packages
  404  Not Found [IP: 68.235.39.11 80]
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Translation-en_US
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/contrib Translation-en                       
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Translation-en_US                   
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org main/non-free Translation-en                      
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com main/import Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com main/import Translation-en
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com main/upstream Translation-en_US
Ign http://packages.linuxmint.com main/upstream Translation-en
W: Failed to fetch http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
W: Failed to fetch http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/squeeze/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/squeeze/updates/dists/main/contrib/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80]
W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/squeeze/updates/dists/main/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 195.20.242.89 80]
W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/debian/dists/main/upstream/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 68.235.39.11 80]
W: Failed to fetch http://packages.linuxmint.com/debian/dists/main/import/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 68.235.39.11 80]
W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/squeeze/dists/main/contrib/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.89 80]
W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/squeeze/dists/main/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.89 80]
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.

I am confused now. I cannot install Gedit or Terminator or anything else now. What list should I use to get pass the update?

Please help me, I beg you, I spent 2 hours wondering what am I doing wrong.

[minitux]

min 12 has nothing to do with the repositories you've entered, and has been out of support for years, download and reinstall a supported version like Mint 18.2 XFCE

32 bit
https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=241

64 bit
https://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=242

[anonymousparis]

I know 12 is not supported, but that doesn't mean I cannot update repositories, because before, like 8 months ago I updated, but I dont know the xact list of sources to do it.

Upgrading up to 18 is impossible, since my computer now is HP Pavilion dv8000 with AMD Turion64 and after testing it, if I recall it was Serena or something, it was very slow on it.

Anyone has a list, please?

Update:

As for now I tried the Ubuntu sources list but it is not perfect, right? At least it updated and I can install Terminator. Why Ubuntu repos ar working and Mint doesn't have similar ones?

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deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted universe
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted universe
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org precise free non-free

[minitux]

linux mint 12 it was based on ubuntu 11.10 and the repository are closed from May 2012

[anonymousparis]

Ok, but as you see, it updated, then why the creators don't put some standard working sources that work, instead of leaving people behind. It is not logical to create completely new system and throw to the basket the old one, just because it has still the same version number.

As I see, the list I presented before from Ubuntu - like You had said it is based on - work like a charm.

Does there exist another source list, better than mine that I have found here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS9x3ieRMz4

[minitux]

do not insert repository at random, try putting ubuntu repos EOL (end of life) for oneiric, but still does not update anything, you can only use the package manager to install and remove software and you do not have security updates

if you insert supported release repositories, you must use update and dist-upgrade to advance, but it does not make sense, almost certainly will not work anymore.

what you see in that video does not have to go with what you want to do, mint 13 maya was already on a precise basis and does not seem he has changed repository

[MintBean]

Love people who think thousands upon thousands of man hours should be expended without payment to support their prehistoric system.
Nothing wrong with running an old computer, but choose a suitable lightweight distro like Puppy Linux instead of expecting everyone to revolve around you.

[anonymousparis]

Is it really so hard to put couple of lines for the future generations of Linux Mint users so they could update much easier?

By the way, I forgot to mention, I disabled Medibuntu since it went away, far away and added 2 lines, one for games and one for applications, lay be needed if someone would like to update old inexistent archived repositories with the existing Ubuntu based ones:

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#deb http://packages.medibuntu.org precise free non-free
deb http://archive.removed/ubuntu precise-removed apps
deb http://archive.removed/ubuntu precise-removed games

[minitux]

in my view you only do useless and damaging things, the only thing you could do is set oneiric repo EOL

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gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

remove all and insert

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deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric main universe restricted multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric main universe restricted multiverse

deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-security main universe restricted multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-security main universe restricted multiverse

deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates main universe restricted multiverse
deb-src http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric-updates main universe restricted multiverse

but not useful, look for a lightweight system for your pc and install it.

it is useless to continue this discussion

[MintBean]

Is it really so hard to put couple of lines for the future generations of Linux Mint users so they could update much easier?

It's all open source and volunteer based. Why don't you release a fork of the old Mint versions (1-16) with updated repository links? Of course, if you want anyone to take it seriously, you'll have to keep it all updated with security patches because it's got more holes than a sieve at the moment. This will probably involve backporting massive amounts of software from newer releases to work with your outdated OS to ensure you get all the latest security patches... and then it's all got to be tested... plus of course there are the patches to the OS itself... you know, the ones included in the latest releases.

[Pjotr]

We might be able to recommend a supported Linux version for your machine, provided we have a full hardware overview. Please generate an overview of your system like this:

- Launch a terminal window (this is how to launch a terminal window);

- make the terminal window full screen, to avoid chopped lines;

- copy/paste this command into the terminal:

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inxi -Fxz

(if you type: the letter F is a capital letter)

- Press Enter.

- Copy/paste the output in your next message. Preferably put it between code tags,

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like this

And by the way: don't use "sudo" for launching graphical applications with root authority, but use "gksudo" instead.

[anonymousparis]

Effect of using

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inxi -Fxz

command:

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System:    Host darkpixie Kernel 3.0.0-12-generic i686 (32 bit gcc 4.6.1) 
           Desktop LXDE (Openbox 3.5.0) Distro Linux Mint 12 LXDE
Machine:   System Hewlett-Packard (portable) product Pavilion dv8000 (EK775EA#ABF) version F.05
           Mobo Hewlett-Packard model 309B version 49.14 Bios Hewlett-Packard version F.05 date 10/12/2005
CPU:       Single core AMD Turion 64 Mobile ML-32 (-UP-) cache 512 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3) bmips 1591.89 clocked at 800.00 MHz 
Graphics:  Card: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) bus-ID: 01:05.0 
           X.Org 1.10.4 drivers ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,vesa Resolution 1440x900@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS480 GLX Version 2.1 Mesa 7.11 Direct Rendering Yes
Audio:     Card ATI IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio Controller driver ATI IXP AC97 controller bus-ID: 00:14.5 Sound: ALSA v: 1.0.24
Network:   Card-1 Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ driver 8139too v: 0.9.28 port a000 bus-ID: 06:06.0
           IF: eth0 state: down speed: 10 Mbps duplex: half mac: <filter>
           Card-2 Broadcom BCM4318 [AirForce 54g] 802.11a/b/g PCI Express Transceiver driver b43-pci-bridge bus-ID: 06:02.0
           IF: N/A state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 167.9GB (3.8% used) 1: /dev/sda FUJITSU_MHV2080A 80.0GB 
           2: /dev/sdb FUJITSU_MHV2080A 80.0GB 3: USB /dev/sdc Cruzer_Blade 7.8GB 
Partition: ID:/ size: 73G used: 4.0G (6%) fs: ext4 ID:swap-1 size: 1.07GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
Sensors:   Error: You do not have the sensors app installed.
Info:      Processes 125 Uptime 11 min Memory 297.8/1000.7MB Runlevel 2 Client Shell inxi 1.7.7 

Is really gksudo necessary? Why? Thanks.

[Pjotr]

OK, that weak old hardware is a challenge....

1. Try Linux Mint 18.2 Xfce, 32-bit:
http://mirrors.kernel.org/linuxmint/sta ... -32bit.iso

After installation, apply all speed tweaks described here:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/3

2. Reasons for using gksudo:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinux ... ect/sudo-1

[Moem]

Is really gksudo necessary? Why? Thanks.

Because using sudo will result in permission problems: anything that's written by that program after you start it up as root (= by using sudo) will be owned by root and not by you as the user.

[Hoser Rob]

Is it really so hard to put couple of lines for the future generations of Linux Mint users so they could update much easier?

Is it so hard for you to understand that what you\'re doing makes zero sense and you're just going to break your system?

That 'tutorial' you linked to isn't even for the 'regular' Ubuntu based Mint, it's for LMDE.

Please LISTEN to people posting above who actually know what they're talking about while they still have the patience to read your posts and just install a currently supported Mint version.

[anonymousparis]

I understand, that it is difficult, but please, some 6 months ago I updated using some lines from the internet and I was able to launch 12 XFCE, now I just cannot find the proper source of those lines, but I know that exist.

Maybe I will wait for someone to post them in here, I cannot even install Terminator or Skype.

[minitux]

now I just cannot find the proper source of those lines, but I know that exist.

no, it does not exist, except the EOL repositories I had posted to you. it is useless to insist

[anonymousparis]

So, without trying to assume someone might have the list of sources, I researched a sip and i have found a way to upgrade old Linux Mint 12 XFCE distro based on the Debian distro, since all are so or so based from top deep down from Debian originally. Now I can install Skype, Leafpad and all other nice software like Blender. In case anyone have doubts it exists or have similar "stuck with update" problem, here is the list below, which worked like charm for me:

Here is generic information for upgrade a debian based distro:

gksudo abiword /etc/apt/sources.list

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deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ maya main upstream import
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ precise partner
deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ precise free non-free

#deb http://archive.removed/ubuntu precise-removed apps
#deb http://archive.removed/ubuntu precise-removed games

gksudo apt-get update

You should do independent research on how to update your sources file(s).

Finally I have my favourite Mintie Pingu I dreamed since 3 weeks.

Thanks.

[minitux]

for now precise repositories are still active, but those will also be closed (now it's end of life, no longer supported)

and you'll still have trouble, as well as mixing upgrades of different versions can cause problems and break the system anyway.

anyway, if you're happy .....

[Pjotr]

Finally I have my favourite Mintie Pingu I dreamed since 3 weeks.

That's not a dream, that's a bloody nightmare.

As minitux already indicated, you've just created a Frankenstein trainwreck with the software sources of an Ubuntu version (12.04 Precise Pangolin) that's not even supported anymore....

In other words: you've gone from one dead version to another dead version. That's not even a zombie system, that's a double dead one.

And by the way: "gksudo apt-get update" is nonsense. gksudo is only for graphical applications, not for terminal applications like apt-get. For those there is sudo.