Feature suggestion for pre-installed file managers: Also show file size in bytes.

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Feature suggestion for pre-installed file managers: Also show file size in bytes.

Post by TL7 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:15 am

I would like the pre-installed Linux file managers such as Caja, Nemo, Thunar, Natolious to show not just the human readable size (e.g. 14,8 GB), but also the exact number of bytes (e.g. 29719462841 B). This simplifies knowing whether files have been copied completely, because in the past, I have not checked the exact numbers of bytes, just to find out, that MTP (which Windows handles terribly bad) ditched a few files randomly and unexplainably.

Linux is originally for power users, and showing the file size in bytes would not sacrifice any user friendliness for minimalists (who should consider getting iOS X), but can make it easier to see, whether files have been transferred properly.
Hashsums would also compare data integrity, however they do only work for individual files, not for a folder with thousands of files, because the sorting is unspecified.

Of course, I can use the command line, but it is less convenient and costs time.

“Linux is not Windows” does not change the fact that seeing the exact number of bytes next to the human readable format would be useful.

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Re: Feature suggestion for pre-installed file managers: Also show file size in bytes.

Post by catweazel » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:33 am

TL7 wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:15 am
I would like the pre-installed Linux file managers such as Caja, Nemo, Thunar, Natolious to show not just the human readable size (e.g. 14,8 GB), but also the exact number of bytes (e.g. 29719462841 B). This simplifies knowing whether files have been copied completely, because in the past, I have not checked the exact numbers of bytes, just to find out, that MTP (which Windows handles terribly bad) ditched a few files randomly and unexplainably.

Linux is originally for power users, and showing the file size in bytes would not sacrifice any user friendliness for minimalists (who should consider getting iOS X), but can make it easier to see, whether files have been transferred properly.
Hashsums would also compare data integrity, however they do only work for individual files, not for a folder with thousands of files, because the sorting is unspecified.

Of course, I can use the command line, but it is less convenient and costs time.

“Linux is not Windows” does not change the fact that seeing the exact number of bytes next to the human readable format would be useful.
man ls <- in a terminal.
A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. - Max Planck

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Re: Feature suggestion for pre-installed file managers: Also show file size in bytes.

Post by TL7 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:29 pm

catweazel wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:33 am
TL7 wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:15 am
I would like the pre-installed Linux file managers such as Caja, Nemo, Thunar, Natolious to show not just the human readable size (e.g. 14,8 GB), but also the exact number of bytes (e.g. 29719462841 B). This simplifies knowing whether files have been copied completely, because in the past, I have not checked the exact numbers of bytes, just to find out, that MTP (which Windows handles terribly bad) ditched a few files randomly and unexplainably.

Linux is originally for power users, and showing the file size in bytes would not sacrifice any user friendliness for minimalists (who should consider getting iOS X), but can make it easier to see, whether files have been transferred properly.
Hashsums would also compare data integrity, however they do only work for individual files, not for a folder with thousands of files, because the sorting is unspecified.

Of course, I can use the command line, but it is less convenient and costs time.

“Linux is not Windows” does not change the fact that seeing the exact number of bytes next to the human readable format would be useful.
man ls <- in a terminal.
I already knew that.
But I still think that the exact file size should be implemented in the properties window.

Of course, the terminal is a professional way, but the properties window is just two clicks away. This saves time. And time is abundant nowhere. The latter way is also by far more convenient, even for experienced users.

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Re: Feature suggestion for pre-installed file managers: Also show file size in bytes.

Post by gm10 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 9:10 am

TL7 wrote:
Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:29 pm
But I still think that the exact file size should be implemented in the properties window.
I agree. It's shown for single files, there's no reason at all to have a different UI when selecting multiple files.

That said, this is the Linux Mint support forum. Suggestions about improving specific software packages with the distribution should be directed to the respective developers. This is not the place.

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Re: Feature suggestion for pre-installed file managers: Also show file size in bytes.

Post by JerryF » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:46 pm

TL7 wrote:
Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:15 am
I would like the pre-installed Linux file managers such as Caja, Nemo, Thunar, Natolious to show not just the human readable size (e.g. 14,8 GB), but also the exact number of bytes (e.g. 29719462841 B). This simplifies knowing whether files have been copied completely, because in the past, I have not checked the exact numbers of bytes, just to find out, that MTP (which Windows handles terribly bad) ditched a few files randomly and unexplainably.

Linux is originally for power users, and showing the file size in bytes would not sacrifice any user friendliness for minimalists (who should consider getting iOS X), but can make it easier to see, whether files have been transferred properly.
Hashsums would also compare data integrity, however they do only work for individual files, not for a folder with thousands of files, because the sorting is unspecified.

Of course, I can use the command line, but it is less convenient and costs time.

“Linux is not Windows” does not change the fact that seeing the exact number of bytes next to the human readable format would be useful.
In the future, could you please post suggestions in the "Suggestions & New Ideas" section of the forum?
IF AND WHEN your problem has been solved, please edit your original post and add [SOLVED] to the beginning of the Subject Line. It helps other members.

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Re: Feature suggestion for pre-installed file managers: Also show file size in bytes.

Post by Moem » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:56 pm

Mod note:
Now moved. 8)
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If your issue is solved, kindly indicate that by editing the first post in the topic, and adding [SOLVED] to the title. Thanks!

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