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Lite Linux Mint?

Post by jozevgates » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:27 pm

Just got a new lower end laptop today. Running 18 on it. Any advice on making things more lightweight? I only plan to use it for word processing and browsing. Already uninstalled all the programs I'm not going to use. Any thoughts on what else to do? Thanks!

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by richyrich » Tue Jul 03, 2018 7:36 pm

One of our forum members has created a website with exactly what you are looking for . . :)

https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/Home

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by ssspace » Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:00 pm

The Desktop Environment has a big impact on speed. Cinnamon can be a bit heavy for very old computers but Linux Mint Xfce is lightweight and probably will work, Linux Mint MATE will probably work fine too, search some videos online about them and pick the one that you like the most: https://linuxmint.com/download.php .

If you want a faster boot and to load apps quickly buy a SSD drive, it's way faster, buying more RAM usually helps too.

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by lsemmens » Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:48 pm

+1 for SSD I converted my Laptop not long ago. ReStart time is now about 1 minute from the time I hit ReBoot to the time I am up and running again. And I am not running "lite" any thing. Time was when additional RAM would help, too, not so much these days.
Kernel: 4.15.0-24-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Cinnamon 3.8.7
Distro: Linux Mint 19 Tara

Laptop T4500 Dualcore 4Gb RAM
Server AMD Phenom 9650 - GEForce 9400GT 6Gb RAM
Out of my mind - please leave a message

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by Pierre » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:57 pm

unlike the Windows System - - it's not necessary to uninstall all the programs that your not going to use,
as they don't interfere with the system, apart from taking up some HDD space.
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and you can use the Xfce Desktop to make things more lightweight.
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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by ssspace » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:01 pm

SSD is amazing, I just restarted and put a timer to check, boot + typing the password = 20 seconds until everything is ready to use. Copy/move files fast, backups, open apps, everything is fast, a low end computer will benefit a lot if you put a SSD.

SSD doesn't affect web browsing though... browsers are more CPU intensive, and if you like to open several tabs it will use lots of RAM. For word processing and office stuff, any computer will work fine, LibreOffice doesn't use a lot of resources, but there are lighter office apps like AbiWord and Gnumeric(spreadsheets).

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by Bolle1961 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:00 am

The German Linux Mint community has Lxde versions, 17.3 LTS 18.3 LTS 19 LTS and LMDE 2
https://www.linuxmintusers.de/index.php

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by Hoser Rob » Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:51 am

Bolle1961 wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:00 am
The German Linux Mint community has Lxde versions, 17.3 LTS 18.3 LTS 19 LTS and LMDE 2
https://www.linuxmintusers.de/index.php
That's very interesting, just had a look. Could use an 'English' button for some of us though.

Especially since Xfce isn't that lightweight anymore. It used about 280Mb after boot on my laptop, and KDE 5 uses about 325Mb. And KDE, unlike Xfce, is extremely powerful.

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by Moem » Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:03 am

Hoser Rob wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:51 am
Could use an 'English' button for some of us though.
Maintaining a site in several languages is a lot of work. And I'm sure that you know how to find and use a machine translation site. :wink:
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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by Bolle1961 » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:01 am

The Chrome browser has a built-in translation. Yeah, I know, lots of people don't wan to use that browser, including me :wink:

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by Hoser Rob » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:30 am

Moem wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:03 am
Hoser Rob wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 7:51 am
Could use an 'English' button for some of us though.
Maintaining a site in several languages is a lot of work. And I'm sure that you know how to find and use a machine translation site. :wink:
Yeah I could do that :wink:

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by aledie » Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:58 am

To simplify it, here is the exact link to the German "Unofficial Linux Mint 19 LXDE":
https://www.linuxmintusers.de/index.php?topic=49512.0

-Either download the iso (both 32bit and 64 bit available). Then convert it to English.
-or use their instructions for the removal and adding packages using the terminal to convert your LM 19 Mate installation into LM 19 LXDE. They seem however have done some extra customizations, not sure which.

I used their previous LM 18.3 LXDE myself for few months, perfectly usable and fast. Only bug encountered were 2 buttons in the menu (logout and Synaptic PM being in German after switching to English).

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by BG405 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:56 am

aledie wrote:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:58 am
To simplify it, here is the exact link to the German "Unofficial Linux Mint 19 LXDE":
https://www.linuxmintusers.de/index.php?topic=49512.0
I had no idea this existed, thanks. May well be a candidate for my older Dell desktop machine, especially if it will run (for basic tasks; no Web browsing) in 512MB of RAM. Minimum is stated as 384MB. LM17.3 Xfce runs nicely in half a gig on another machine, under those conditions.

The German interface might not be a problem, as I've made several attempts at picking up German over the years, including running my old Windows 7 system in German. Fluency of the system is a must though (not necessarily the language, especially if there's a translator widget available somewhere) & I'm not sure I'm quite there yet ...
Dell Inspiron 1525 - LM17.3 CE 64-------------------Acer D255E 2GB - Manjaro KDE, LM17.3 KDE 32
Toshiba NB305 - LM17.3 Xfce 32---------------------K7S5A AMD 1.2GHz - LM17.3 Xfce 32 & WinXP-Pro
Acer Aspire E11 ES1-111M - LM18.2 KDE 64 ----Dell PII 350 64MB - Puppy 4.3 & Win98-SE

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by Moem » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:30 pm

I'm sure you can just tell LXDE to show you an interface in English... just like you can tell official Mint to show you an interface in Dutch, German...
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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by ssspace » Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:54 pm

512 MB in 2018??? Even a Raspberry Pi has 1 GB now, and buying 2 GB or 4 GB of RAM is not that expensive, also LXDE is too limited, there's no reason to use it in 2018, Xfce has more features and uses just a bit more resources, MATE too.

Linux Mint should drop 32 bit support too, these computers are too old, barely handle using a browser and watching a video. Ubuntu MATE is dropping 32 bit support too, less than 5% of their userbase use 32 bit.

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by BG405 » Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:32 pm

@Moem: I know, but it might be a useful exercise for my brain if I left it set with German. :wink:

@ssspace: This old PII machine is not intended for stuff like web browsing. It's mainly used for archival purposes i.e. recovering data from old floppy disks & use as a terminal for a home-made 6502-based computer, amongst other things. I would love a Raspberry Pi but can not afford one. The machine in question only has 3 RAM slots & presumably maxes out at 768MB RAM. More than sufficient for my needs. I'll be mostly using the Terminal anyway and it's in this department where the current Puppy 4.3 lacks.

Try to find a new motherboard with enough PCI (& preferably also ISA) slots, serial (needed for my SD2IEC and the 6502 machine) plus full support for "obsolete" disk formats (which in fact are not; they are still used in certain industries & disks are still available new, albeit pricey).

It doesn't have to run the latest and greatest for these purposes, so I don't care if 32-bit kernels etc. are dropped in future releases, as long as 32-bit software & drivers can still run on a 64-bit system on my more modern machines, as is the case currently. That way I don't have to throw out my colour laser printer, flatbed scanner etc. which would, for the foreseeable future, leave me without the ability to print or scan anything. So, at least support for 32-bit modules needs to be retained for a few more years.


Some of us have valid use cases for such "old" kit, it's often the only way of accessing & preserving stuff and it's a delight that I may be able to run a flavour of Mint on this old dinosaur. I wasn't expecting that to be a realistic prospect. :D
Dell Inspiron 1525 - LM17.3 CE 64-------------------Acer D255E 2GB - Manjaro KDE, LM17.3 KDE 32
Toshiba NB305 - LM17.3 Xfce 32---------------------K7S5A AMD 1.2GHz - LM17.3 Xfce 32 & WinXP-Pro
Acer Aspire E11 ES1-111M - LM18.2 KDE 64 ----Dell PII 350 64MB - Puppy 4.3 & Win98-SE

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by ssspace » Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:32 pm

Here is a interesting link to search for old/new hardware running the Linux Lite distro:

Linux Lite Hardware Database
https://www.linuxliteos.com/hardware.php

Type something hardware related like... Pentium, and it will show people that successfully installed Linux Lite using Pentium.

By the way, can Linux Mint have a similar feature? People are not sure if LM will work with their hardware. If any LM dev see this, it's a nice feature that all distros should have. Of course it's opt-in, you choose if you want to upload your hardware info to the database.

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by aledie » Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:23 pm

BG405 wrote:
Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:32 pm
@ssspace: This old PII machine is not intended for stuff like web browsing. The machine in question only has 3 RAM slots & presumably maxes out at 768MB RAM. More than sufficient for my needs. I'll be mostly using the Terminal anyway...
-Install Antix 17.1 base: light, fast, very usable vs puppy like, has Fluxbox/Jwm/Icewm OOTB, very cli based if you if you like the terminal there are very exotic apps, yet beautiful
-may run just much better than Mint even LXDE on your PC
-Debian 9 based, just SysVinit, so for someone with mint/Ubuntu background no big switch
-i ran it on DELL 700m 1Gb ram, snappy, Broadcom and display etc all ok, in fact the only distro felt just fast on it. Try it you won't be disappointed!

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by mediclaser » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:14 pm

+1 on the antix. It's the only distro that works fast on my very old laptop. Just make sure you install Palemoon browser to complete the snappy experience. Firefox is still too slow for an old machine no matter how light your linux distro is.

BTW, in case you run into issue using the wifi on your laptop, try running the included Centi tool to activate the correct wifi driver.

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Re: Lite Linux Mint?

Post by BG405 » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:17 pm

aledie wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 2:23 pm
mediclaser wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:14 pm
Thanks for those suggestions! All I really need with that system is a decent implementation of familiar BASH commands & decent package management with the likes of apt or pacman/yaourt etc..
Dell Inspiron 1525 - LM17.3 CE 64-------------------Acer D255E 2GB - Manjaro KDE, LM17.3 KDE 32
Toshiba NB305 - LM17.3 Xfce 32---------------------K7S5A AMD 1.2GHz - LM17.3 Xfce 32 & WinXP-Pro
Acer Aspire E11 ES1-111M - LM18.2 KDE 64 ----Dell PII 350 64MB - Puppy 4.3 & Win98-SE

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