(SOLVED) Mint 19 Cin virtualbox win10 ipod issue

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(SOLVED) Mint 19 Cin virtualbox win10 ipod issue

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Heres one for you I hope someone has an answer for. I just did a baremetal install did the updates and installed the packages I want to use. No problems till I went to setup virtualbox. I use windows 10 in VB to manage my gen 6 ipod touch (doesnt work on linux yet as far as I can tell) as well as my ham radio gear. VB installed fine along with importing my win10 appliance and it works great till i try to run itunes. Itunes runs fine but VB will no longer see the ipod. It is enabled in USB settings and worked great with mint 18-3 but now not in 19......but when I plug in the ipod it is no longer seen by itunes....any ideas? :shock:
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Re: Mint 19 Cin virtualbox win10 ipod issue

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Cypher71 wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:10 pm virtualbox
You don't say where VBox was sourced from. If it was using apt install from the repos then you've installed a very old version. You may want to remove it and do this:

sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list

Add the line: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian bionic contrib

ctrl-o + enter to save, ctrl-x to exit.

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	wget https://www.virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox_2016.asc
	wget https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.2.14/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-5.2.14.vbox-extpack
	sudo apt-key add oracle_vbox_2016.asc
	sudo apt update
	sudo apt install virtualbox-5.2
	sudo adduser $USER vboxusers
After VBox is installed, in your file manager, double-click vbox-extpack to install it.
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Re: Mint 19 Cin virtualbox win10 ipod issue

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i downloaded it from the software manager....ill inistall it and try it the other way will post in a few if it worked
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currious as i used the software manager in 18-3 as well with no issue....and this other meathod doesnt seem to work either. Everything worlks great except it wont pickup the ipod
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Cypher71 wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 7:32 pm currious as i used the software manager in 18-3 as well with no issue....and this other meathod doesnt seem to work either. Everything worlks great except it wont pickup the ipod
What kernel are you running? uname -a
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kernel is 4.15.0-24-generic. After some fiddeling I found that it is virtualbox that does not see the ipod (in settings/usb) at all. It showed before as I imported the appliance but I removed it and tried to re-add it and VB will not see it although mint 19 sees it fine. VB ver is..... VirtualBox Graphical User Interface Version 5.2.10_Ubuntu r121806
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Cypher71 wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:37 pm kernel is 4.15.0-24-generic. After some fiddeling I found that it is virtualbox that does not see the ipod (in settings/usb) at all.
It may well be VBox but that kernel is also a source of major woes so it might pay to eliminate it as a possible cause. You might try dropping back to 4.15.0-22 or even 4.15.0-20.
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reverted to 4.15.0-20-generic and still no ipod showing in add usb device in settings (VB) this id the 1st kernal that installed. Hmmm..... :?
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Cypher71 wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 9:42 pm reverted to 4.15.0-20-generic and still no ipod showing in add usb device in settings (VB) this id the 1st kernal that installed. Hmmm..... :?
Ok. I'm sorry, but I'm out of ideas.
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Re: Mint 19 Cin virtualbox win10 ipod issue

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np thanks for tryin.... heh seems to be just me luck but thats ok I kept 18-3 alongside so ill keep tryin till i find a solution which ill post here as I cant be the only one using win10 just for itunes in a VB ,)
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Obvious, maybe dumb question, when you did your new install of mint 19 do did add yourself to vboxusers group?
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hmmm....youll have to explain that one as ive never had to do that on previous versions of mint and other distros. why would it all of a sudden be needed for mint 19? Guess im not following... ive got it working on other distros as well as mint 18-3 but the VB software doesnt see the ipod but mint 19 does.
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If you are not a member of vboxusers then you can't share your usb ports with your vm (at least that's my understanding). If you can't see your ipod can you see any other USB device in the vm?
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yea thats the funny part....all of my other devices work fine in the VB just not the ipod (iphone 4 isnt seen either). Ive tried VB 5.2 as well as some other versions and still no ipod. Thinking its a bug buuut......
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I'm stumped, you've got the drivers installed cos you installed itunes so should be able to see it. Sounds like time to make a trip to the VB forums.
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yep already there ;)
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Oke...got it sorted. Seems for some reason VB on my install of 19 does not add my user account to vbusers *confus3ed myself between 18.3 and 19 which kinda led me down this road(. SO I added myself to the group and it all works great. Not sure why over multiple installs of VB and linux 19 wouldnt add my user account automaticly but this is why it wasnt working. What I noticed between 81.3 and 19 is that resources *IE mem and cpu useage( are FAR more effecient in 19 than 18.3. In 18.3 my 16gb ram was maxed running a VB win 10 and browser and music and even dipped several gigs into swap. On 19 running the same setup I am using 6.3gb ram and no swap. The CPUs instead of running around 80% (4 core older system) now run round 40% so I> am as happy as a clam....didnt want to builfd a new system yet heh. Thanks all
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Thanks for that, what version of VB are you running? Mine's 5.2.8 running on 18.3 cinnamon, got 16G RAM and I give VB half of that (running win7 in a VM). Just about to take the plunge and upgrade to 19 at which point I'll try the latest VB.
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Re: (SOLVED) Mint 19 Cin virtualbox win10 ipod issue

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Running the most current mint 19 with VB 5.2.1. If you run virtual machines I cant recomend enough doing either an upgrade (rather indepth) or fresh install which is what I recomend. youll find youll have a lot more ommmph when you do jump into 19. Just remem this post if your usb doesnt work right away ;) The fresh install doesnt take very long at all (unlike bloatdoze ;) and youll be quite pleased GL

I also applied 50% ram and 2 of my 4 cores and it runs great. It will run on 1 core and 4gigs ram but slow.
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Probably worth updating to the latest VB, think it's now 5.2.16. Will be doing a fresh mint install, but playing on a spare laptop first. I've a lot of stuff to install and setup (my idiots guide to installing which I did when I moved from 17.3 to 18 is over 30 pages) so it won't be that quick. Have the scars from trying to get VB and USB ports working first time around :(

Key issues for me in getting mint 19 up and running will be VB (needed for work = MS office), crossover (office again) and evolution (email).
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