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Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by rjd » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:09 pm

I recently tried to use Pinta to notate some screenshots to assist another user. The program would open, and seem to be fine until I loaded an image. As soon as the image was loaded, Pinta would either freeze or crash to the desktop (i.e., close). Attempting to close a frozen instance would result in a "...not responding..." message. I attempted to close all other programs to free up available memory still had the same issue. This was on a Lenovo Z580 I5 w/Intel graphics and 8 GB RAM that had been restored to 18.3 with Timeshift due to the Mesa issue, and then upgraded to 19. I had used Pinta on this machine for 2 years with various iterations of Mint 18 (all Cinnamon) with no problems. I tried completely removing Pinta with Synaptic and reinstalling after a reboot with no change.

I then tried to edit the images on a Ryzen 5 1600 w/AMD graphics and 16 GB RAM that was upgraded to 19 before the Mesa issue arose. I'm getting the same behavior on this system as well as an FX-6300 w/AMD graphics and 16 GB RAM that was had a clean install of 19. Like the laptop, I've been using Pinta on both of these systems in Mint 18 with no issues.

The only recent (post 2012) links I found when searching for this issue:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/926458/ ... -selection
https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/pinta-a ... es/16439/8
seem to think that it's obsolete (ubuntu-mate) or that it's an issue with Mono (askubuntu) not Pinta. The second reason seems to jive with the stack trace:
http://termbin.com/f0t1

Have others seen this behavior? I would like to resolve this issue if possible, since I've been using Pinta frequently to crop and resize (food pics for recipes in Gourmet, album art for Sansa Fuze, images to email) and found it to be a quick and dirty solution for these things. As it's still in the Mint software repos, it ought to work. If this can't be resolved, does anyone know a lightweight substitute (GIMP is overkill and I find Pix to be too awkward and non-intuitive)?

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by all41 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:21 pm

I confirm Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Mate.
Repeatable.
Open an image, draw a line, and Pinta closes immediately

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by Valsodar » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:27 pm

You two are lucky you managed to install it in the first place. One of the many reasons I abandoned 19 and went back to 18.3 was that I was unable to install Pinta - console installation returned tons of errors, installation through Synaptic failed miserably and installing it from a deb package went well but when I searched for Pinta in the menu, it wasn't there - as if I never installed it.
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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by phd21 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:37 pm

Hi rjd,

* If you want a really great screenshot (printscreen) application which can also open existing images and also has excellent painter functions, can crop and scale, upload to 'imgur", etc... try the wonderful "ksnip" application. It is available as an AppImage for super easy installation into any Linux Mint edition and version. Recommend unchecking the Options -> Settings -> Painter -> Dynamic Cursor...

GitHub - DamirPorobic/ksnip: Ksnip is a Qt based Linux screenshot tool that provides many annotation features for your screenshots.
https://github.com/DamirPorobic/ksnip

Ksnip AppImage download link below.
https://github.com/DamirPorobic/ksnip/r ... 4.AppImage

FYI - "ksnip" really nice screen capture app with Imgur upload and built-in painter functions - Linux Mint Forums
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=260112&hilit=ksnip



* My other favorite basic image editor is "kolourpaint" in the Software Manager or Synaptic Package Manager (SPM)

Hope this helps ...
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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by all41 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:42 pm

@phd21,
I agree there are alternatives, but Pinta has been such a staple in Mint. I am surprised that it is broken now.

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by rjd » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:43 pm

I just tried installing it on my htpc (Mint 19 Mate, upgraded from 18.3) with both Synaptic (Package Manager) and Software Manager (after complete removal). Had no issues with installing. It showed up in menu under graphics as expected and opened normally. Still crashed, but not as fast as in Cinnamon.

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by ajgringo619 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:49 pm

It hasn't been updated since March 2015.
Mint 19.2 XFCE
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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by rjd » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:05 pm

phd21 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 7:37 pm
Hi rjd,

* If you want a really great screenshot (printscreen) application which can also open existing images and also has excellent painter functions, can crop and scale, upload to 'imgur", etc... try the wonderful "ksnip" application. It is available as an AppImage for super easy installation into any Linux Mint edition and version. Recommend unchecking the Options -> Settings -> Painter -> Dynamic Cursor...

GitHub - DamirPorobic/ksnip: Ksnip is a Qt based Linux screenshot tool that provides many annotation features for your screenshots.
https://github.com/DamirPorobic/ksnip

Ksnip AppImage download link below.
https://github.com/DamirPorobic/ksnip/r ... 4.AppImage

FYI - "ksnip" really nice screen capture app with Imgur upload and built-in painter functions - Linux Mint Forums
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=260112&hilit=ksnip



* My other favorite basic image editor is "kolourpaint" in the Software Manager or Synaptic Package Manager (SPM)

Hope this helps ...
Sorry, maybe I should have been clearer. I don't want to download all the dependencies needed to run a KDE application in Cinnamon. I don't want a program that's not in the Mint repos. I don't want a multi-tool; I'm quite happy with Mint's screenshot app. I want something simple to do basic edits (crop, resize, convert) and to occasionally write instructions over a screenshot to assist friends & family. I also want it to be simple enough that others I've converted to Linux can use it without needing hand-holding. Pinta has been that. One of the advantages of Pinta is it's resemblance to MS Paint making it easier for new converts to Linux to use. I hereby retract my request for alternative recommendations. If necessary, I'll deal with that later.

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by ajgringo619 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:20 pm

Sorry, maybe I should have been clearer. I don't want to download all the dependencies needed to run a KDE application in Cinnamon. I don't want a program that's not in the Mint repos. I don't want a multi-tool; I'm quite happy with Mint's screenshot app. I want something simple to do basic edits (crop, resize, convert) and to occasionally write instructions over a screenshot to assist friends & family. I also want it to be simple enough that others I've converted to Linux can use it without needing hand-holding. Pinta has been that. One of the advantages of Pinta is it's resemblance to MS Paint making it easier for new converts to Linux to use. I hereby retract my request for alternative recommendations. If necessary, I'll deal with that later.
Take a look at Krita. It seems pretty lightweight, much lighter than GIMP.
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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by phd21 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:29 pm

Hi rjd,

1.) Ksnip is not a KDE application it is a QT application packaged as an AppImage which is self-contained with all the requirements in a small 23mb file, so there are no other dependencies to install. It is also being actively maintained and updated. "Kolourpaint" is a KDE application.

2.) You do not have to use Ksnip as a screenshot application, it can open other images, so it can be used like Pinta.

3.) Ksnip is simple to use. It can auto-convert an image by simply saving the image with a different extension, like image.png or image.jpg, etc...

Here is a video tutorial on how easy it is to use Ksnip's basic features
https://youtu.be/cG5am_x5nAE

FYI: I happen to be in Linux Mint Cinnamon 19 right now with Ksnip working perfectly well.

Before I had to use 2 different programs a screenshot application, and then I had to use Pinta, or Kolourpaint, or some other image editor to annotate it. Now, I can use one application to do both.

Hope this helps ...
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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by rjd » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:39 pm

phd21 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:29 pm
Hi rjd,

1.) Ksnip is not a KDE application it is a QT application packaged as an AppImage which is self-contained with all the requirements in a small 23mb file, so there are no other dependencies to install. It is also being actively maintained and updated. "Kolourpaint" is a KDE application.

2.) You do not have to use Ksnip as a screenshot application, it can open other images, so it can be used like Pinta.

3.) Ksnip is simple to use. It can auto-convert an image by simply saving the image with a different extension, like image.png or image.jpg, etc...

Here is a video tutorial on how easy it is to use Ksnip's basic features
https://youtu.be/cG5am_x5nAE

FYI: I happen to be in Linux Mint Cinnamon 19 right now with Ksnip working perfectly well.

Before I had to use 2 different programs a screenshot application, and then I had to use Pinta, or Kolourpaint, or some other image editor to annotate it. Now, I can use one application to do both.

Hope this helps ...
It does not help! I want 2 different programs. I have GIMP if I want to do more. Please quit spamming me about Ksnip, it's not what I want.

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by all41 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:37 pm

Why is a known non working application still offered in the repositories for Mint 19?

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by MrEen » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:51 pm

all41 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:37 pm
Why is a known non working application still offered in the repositories for Mint 19?
I'm on 18.3 (where Pinta still works,) and apt policy pinta shows:
pinta:
Installed: 1.6-2
Candidate: 1.6-2
Version table:
*** 1.6-2 500
500 http://mirrors.advancedhosters.com/ubuntu xenial/universe amd64 Packages
500 http://mirrors.advancedhosters.com/ubuntu xenial/universe i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
I'll bet you get similar/same. It's Ubuntu's fault (of course.)

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by ajgringo619 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:53 pm

all41 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:37 pm
Why is a known non working application still offered in the repositories for Mint 19?
And one that's so old and unmaintained.
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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by rjd » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:08 pm

all41 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:37 pm
Why is a known non working application still offered in the repositories for Mint 19?
Pinta hasn't been updated according to everything I've been able to find, so it probably hasn't broken. Something has changed, I would guess in a dependency. Some of the info in the stack trace seem to indicate it's a problem with Mono:
warning: core file may not match specified executable file.
warning: Selected architecture i386 is not compatible with reported target architecture i386:x86-64
warning: Architecture rejected target-supplied description
warning: Unexpected size of section `.reg/2658' in core file.
Core was generated by `/usr/bin/mono /usr/lib/pinta/Pinta.exe'.
Program terminated with signal SIGABRT, Aborted.

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by JosephM » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:37 pm

all41 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:37 pm
Why is a known non working application still offered in the repositories for Mint 19?
Technically it isn't. It's in the Ubuntu repos.
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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by JosephM » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:41 pm

Obviously some of you have found pinta stable but I tested it quite a bit before when we looked at it as a possible replacement as a simpler default for gimp. It was never stable for me and that was part of the reason we never shipped with it.
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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by all41 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:49 pm

we looked at it as a possible replacement as a simpler default for gimp
Don't mess with the gimp, though

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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by JosephM » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:51 pm

all41 wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:49 pm
we looked at it as a possible replacement as a simpler default for gimp
Don't mess with the gimp, though
We were just looking for a simpler default. Gimp is overkill for what many need :) Like I said, even then Pinta was very crash happy in our testing.
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Re: Pinta crashes in Mint 19 Cinnamon

Post by all41 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:08 pm

Yes I think there is a need for a basic simple gui based image editor.
size, basic brightness/contrast/gamma/saturation settings, and export to normal formats.
Maybe it's time for Mint to have one of their own

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