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[SOLVED] Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by TonyBeck » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:15 pm

I am new to Linux Mint 18.2 and have been experimenting with Pegasus Mail under Wine

WineHQ gives Pegasus Mail ver 4.72, which I used, a "Latest Rating" of Gold.

Pegasus installs quickly and when it first runs the initial screen began to appear with
the Pegasus Internet Setup Wizard showing "IERenderer 2.4.9.9" and it then freezes.
I have to use the terminal and "sudo xkill;" to close Pegasus.

It is easy to remove the Pegasus folders and have another attempt at installation, so far without success.

I have searched for "IERenderer 2.4.9.9" but did not find anything specific to my problem.

The Pegasus Mail manual has the suggestion regarding "Windows system file WSOCK32.DLL"
and says "On systems where the Internet Services facilities are
built-in and there is no file as such, use the command line switch -Z 128 to force
Pegasus Mail to “blind load” the file (this switch may be required if you are running
Pegasus Mail under the WINE emulator on a linux system)."

I have attempted to use a command line switch but don't know how to do it within Wine.
In any case this might not be the immediate problem.

There are one or two mentions of Wine/Pegasus Mail when I search but none have been specific enough for my problem.

I would be pleased to have suggestions as to how to get Pegasus Mail running.

Regards
Tony
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Re: Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by Flemur » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:56 pm

TonyBeck wrote:
Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:15 pm
I have attempted to use a command line switch but don't know how to do it within Wine.
Are you staring Pegasus from the terminal, e.g.

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cd .wine/to/the/program
wine pegasus.exe -Z 128
You'll also see relevant error messages.

To pass a file path, I think you need to convert it to the windows "C:" weird format, with 'winepath';

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$ winepath -w /mnt/DATA/download
D:\download
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Re: Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by Moem » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:13 pm

On a slight tangent, but...
I hear that Claws Mail is close enough to Pegasus that one is really easy to get used to, if you're used to the other. And that's a native Linux application, which is always the better option. It might be worth taking a look.
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Re: Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by TonyBeck » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:50 am

Thanks Flemur for guidance with regard to starting Wine/Pegasus from the terminal.
I have now managed that with the suggested suffix of "-z 128".

I now suspect this suffix is needed later in the loading process as I still reach a partial initial screen with the
Pegasus Internet Setup Wizard showing "IERenderer 2.4.9.9" and it then freezes.

As you said the terminal now shows "relevant error messages"
Below are the first few lines
__________________________________________________________________________________
fixme:mpr:WNetGetUniversalNameA ("C:\\PMAIL\\MAIL\\WI_sph.ini", 0x00000001, 0x32e9a4, 0x32edb0): stub
fixme:ntdll:NtLockFile I/O completion on lock not implemented yet
fixme:process:GetProcessDEPPolicy (0xffffffff 0x32ef68 0x32ef6c): stub
fixme:font:get_outline_text_metrics failed to read full_nameW for font L"Ani"!
fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented.
fixme:ieframe:PersistStreamInit_InitNew (0x2a8d218)
fixme:ieframe:WebBrowser_put_RegisterAsDropTarget (0x2a8d218)->(0)
fixme:font:GetCharacterPlacementW flags 0x00000012 ignored
fixme:font:GetCharacterPlacementW classes not implemented
__________________________________________________________________________________
Is it possible to tell from these what the "IERenderer 2.4.9.9" problem is?

I had not heard of Claws Mail, so thanks Moem for the mention of that.

Regards
Tony

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Re: Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by BenTrabetere » Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:51 pm

TonyBeck wrote:
Sat Nov 10, 2018 11:50 am
I had not heard of Claws Mail, so thanks Moem for the mention of that.
Claws Mail has been my email client for a couple years, and I find it to be a very close replacement for Pegasus. I used Pegasus for many years, and it was one of the Windows programs missed the most when I switched to Linux. Claws Mail filled that spot nicely for me.

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Re: Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by phd21 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:55 am

Hi TonyBeck,

Welcome to the wonderful world of Linux Mint and its excellent forum!

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

It would help to know more about your system setup. If you run "inxi -Fxzd" and "lsusb" from the console terminal prompt, highlight the results, copy and paste them back here, that should provide enough information.

I always tell people if there are Linux applications that can do what you want as well or better than previous MS Windows applications then use those without using the Linux Wine system or Virtualbox.

There are excellent email clients available to use in Linux and one may already be installed.

+1 for Claws Mail - I just installed this from the "Synaptic Package Manager (SPM)" with all its plugins and tested this and it works well including GPG encryption; had to add a lot of plugins one at a time through the Claws interface.
Claws Mail - Plugins
https://www.claws-mail.org/plugins.php

+1 for Thunderbird with enigmail add-on (check "firetray" or "birdtray" for new mail notifications)

"Evolution" may be in your menus.

Top 9 Best Email Clients for Linux - It's FOSS
https://itsfoss.com/best-email-clients-linux/

Top 10 Best Open Source Linux Email Client Software
https://www.ubuntupit.com/top-10-best-o ... -software/

Hope this helps ...
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Re: Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by TonyBeck » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:11 am

Thanks to both Ben and phd21 for alternatives to Pegasus Mail. It is a combination of the data I already have in Pegasus as well as seeing if I can get it going that caused me to start the thread. All part of my retirement project of swapping from Windows to Linux.....

Which brings me to the commands suggested, both new to me but now in my Linux notes.

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tony@Allin1 ~ $  inxi -Fxzd
System:    Host: Allin1 Kernel: 4.8.0-53-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.4.6 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3) Distro: Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya
Machine:   System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq Elite 8300 Touch All-in-One PC
           Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 3399 Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: K01 v02.86 date: 05/06/2013
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-3770 (-HT-MCP-) cache: 8192 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 27136
           clock speeds: max: 3900 MHz 1: 1792 MHz 2: 1797 MHz 3: 1730 MHz 4: 1708 MHz 5: 1636 MHz 6: 1711 MHz
           7: 1611 MHz 8: 1718 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Turks [Radeon HD 7650A/7670A] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1080@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: AMD TURKS (DRM 2.46.0 / 4.8.0-53-generic, LLVM 6.0.0)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 18.0.5 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Turks/Whistler HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6000 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.8.0-53-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: f040 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: eno1 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: NetGear WNA1100 Wireless-N 150 [Atheros AR9271] driver: ath9k_htc usb-ID: 001-003
           IF: wlxe0469a14f810 state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (3.5% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST1000DM003 size: 1000.2GB
           Optical: /dev/sr0 model: hp DVDRAM GT80N rev: RA03 dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
           Features: speed: 24x multisession: yes
           audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running
Partition: ID-1: / size: 286G used: 18G (7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 17.12GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda6
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C gpu: 37.5
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 235 Uptime: 1:27 Memory: 1154.4/15991.4MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35 

tony@Allin1 ~ $ lsusb
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 1926:1878 NextWindow
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05c8:0419 Cheng Uei Precision Industry Co., Ltd (Foxlink)
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0846:9030 NetGear, Inc. WNA1100 Wireless-N 150 [Atheros AR9271]
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 004: ID 04a9:190a Canon, Inc. CanoScan LiDE 210
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 05e3:0605 Genesys Logic, Inc. USB 2.0 Hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 046d:c408 Logitech, Inc. Marble Mouse (4-button)
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Hope the above helps in the investigation of the "IERenderer 2.4.9.9" freezing.
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Re: Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by phd21 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 12:57 pm

Hi TonyBeck,

You are welcome from all of us that replied...

FYI: In case you did not know, but using the Linux Wine system can pose a security risk especially if you use it for accessing the Internet although you could sandbox it. You would be better off to install Virtualbox with a version of MS Windows in that and any MS Windows applications (Pegasus and Anti-virus) within that which you can run while still in Linux Mint.

Wine: use Windows applications in Linux (security risk!) - Easy Linux tips project
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/wine

(PDF) Security implications of running windows software on a Linux system using Wine: a malware analysis study
https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... ysis_study


I still highly recommend that you try one of the email applications in Linux and try importing the Pegasus email data into that. Or, you can export the Pegasus email data into a common format and import that.

I do not see anything wrong with the results of the "inxi -Fxzd" console terminal command, so that is a good thing.

Linux Thunderbird Import Pegasus email data - Google Search
https://www.google.com/search?ei=zF_oW5 ... _DhC02BC3Q

[Evolution] Pegasus Mail Conversion Mini HOWTO
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evoluti ... 00215.html

Hope this helps ...
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Re: (Solved) Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by TonyBeck » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:49 am

Prior to reading your last message I had spent some time getting Win7 running Virtualbox, this went smoothly and I then installed some programs in Win7 including Pegasus Mail, again with no problem.

I then read your comment "using the Linux Wine system can pose a security risk especially if you use it for accessing the Internet".
I did not know this and thanks for including the explanatory links.
This has decided me, I shall abandon attempting Pegasus under Wine as I now have the safer alternative of it running in Win7/Virtualbox.

Then of course I could abandon Pegasus altogether, so thanks for the conversion links.

Also pleased to hear that you "do not see anything wrong with the results of the "inxi -Fxzd" console terminal command".

Thanks for the interesting series of replies - I have marked the exchange (Solved)

Tony

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Re: (Solved) Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by Moem » Mon Nov 12, 2018 5:17 am

TonyBeck wrote:
Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:49 am
I have marked the exchange (Solved)
In order for that to be useful, it needs to be done on the first post in the topic (by editing that post). That way, it can be seen from the forum overview page. I've done it for you this time.
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Re: (Solved) Wine - Pegasus Mail

Post by phd21 » Mon Nov 12, 2018 11:32 am

HI TonyBeck,

You are welcome from all of us that replied...
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