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Latest update of Thunderbird

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Hi

I'm wondering, is anyone else having issues after the 60.2.1 update of Thunderbird? Since its updated, Thunderbird has become dreadfully slow or can even stop responding completely.

Been looking to switch client, but can't find any other which has tabs for emails. If anyone knows of a client that does besides Thunderbird, please do let me know.
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I have become so disgusted with TB, that I uninstalled it.
I now only use the websites direct for my email.
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I'm not having any issues. I've installed that update and everything is working as it should.
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Re: Latest update of Thunderbird

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Strange.
I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling Thunderbird, but still same results. Starting without addons and in safe mode makes no difference.
Oh well, I'll just have to learn to live with the crappynes :/ Cant understand why no other client has implemented tabs, its so dang useful when dealing with a lot of email.
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I always block updates on Firefox and Thunderbird in my update manager until I'm sure from other's reports that there won't likely be a problem in doing so.
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You are not alone, looren.

While Thunderbird version 52 worked fine, the upgrade to version 60 does not. Lengthy delays are experienced when first opened while email addresses are checked with the host.

Disabling Add-ons had no remedial effect.

I can avoid the delay if I select "Sent" (or any other mail folder) prior to shutting down Thunderbird. If "Inbox" is highlighted prior to exit and subsequent re-start of Thunderbird, there will be a delay of about 20 - 30 seconds.

In order to find the cause I have re-installed Thunderbird and imported all my emails from backups. Removing several years of accumulated emails reduces the delays but does not remove them entirely.

Note that if you want to remove Thunderbird you will also have to remove the hidden .thunderbird folder in your home directory but back it up to a USB stick first in case you want to restore it - it contains all your emails and addresses.

All my emails have been imported to Claws Mail which is faster, leaner and more efficient than Thunderbird and suffers no delays.
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Re: Latest update of Thunderbird

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No problems here with 60.2.1
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Re: Latest update of Thunderbird

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kyphi; Thanks for the reply.
Okay, well, I'd rather not remove any old emails, even it it would improve or even solve the problem :/

I've tied Claws just briefly, although it seems fast and clean it still lacks the support for tabs. It sucks to have the task-bar propagated with 15 windows just because there are unanswered emails as well I want to be able to handle a reboot without having to dig through the inbox. I'm not sure why more email clients hasn't implemented tabs yet as it really helps with keeping track of work.
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60.2.1 here works fine (64bit). I use IMAP for all my e-mails so all my old stuff is kept on their servers. Unless, of course, something is so critical that I cannot afford to lose it then I have a local copy and a hard copy.
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That Thunderbird version 60 works fine for most users is understood. If it did not work properly there would have been another update.

The fact is, that it does not work as expected for the OP, looren, nor does it work for me.

I am in the process of trying this and that to fix it. Purge, re-install, everything works fine. As soon as my 11 years of accumulated emails are imported it plays up. I had a bug listed with Bugzilla but cancelled it after Thunderbird worked for the day (Flash disabled) but resumed its bad behaviour next morning on boot. At the moment I am stumped as to what the cause might be. I can certainly invoke it at will and also circumvent it as outlined in my post above.

This is not my post but if anyone has some constructive comment to make, I too would be most interested. IMAP would seem like a logical solution, however, it has worked perfectly with PoP before. SSL is a given.

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Re: Latest update of Thunderbird

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kyphi;
Task bar = panel, may be I should drop the windows terminology :)
Tabs = individual pages or documents contained in the program, as with in any modern web-browser.
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It is killing my CPU since the update. 170% today. I have tried a couple of suggestions off other message boards which means it works a little better, but there is still an issue. Very frustrating.
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Re: Latest update of Thunderbird

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chrissixxx1;
Even stranger then. I'm not experiencing any noticeable load, even when there is slowdown personally.
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If you have a regular backup routine, you can uninstall Thunderbird and delete .thunderbird (in your home directory) without any loss of data. Alternatively you can save .thunderbird to a USB stick prior to deletion from your home directory and all your emails and addresses will be safe.

Using a fresh installation of Thunderbird version 60 with 2 email (POP) accounts configured, there is no perceptible lag. As soon as emails are transferred from the backup, lag is noticed. Deleting several years of emails, including images attached or embedded, reduces the lag but does not eliminate it entirely. The size of accumulated email reduction was from 1.3 GB to 500 MB. Thunderbird version 60 is now usable and the lag is tolerable.

Thunderbird version 52 with 1.3 GB of accumulated emails suffered no such lag.
Claws Mail version 3.16.0 with 1.3 GB of accumulated emails suffers no lag.

Further information on memory use may be found here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Te ... e_Problems

Thunderbird version 64 beta, same lag. All Thunderbirds now exiled.
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