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How to install Open Office from .tar.gz [Solved]

Post by AZgl1500 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:02 pm

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for the life of me, I have never, ever, been able to make a tar.gz file install properly and then access that program.

right now, I want to install Open Office, but the instructions that I find on the 'net don't get the job done.

Following the quote below, I did this:

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john@john-TP500LA ~/Downloads/OpenOffice $ tar -xzf Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.5_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
john@john-TP500LA ~/Downloads/OpenOffice $ 
and that ended my experience, it is not installed .....


No need to use sudo to unpack the archive. Type this in a terminal:

tar -xzf archive.tar.gz

Or you can just double-click on the archive from Nautilus (the file manager) to see what's inside. No need for command line until now.

If this archive contains something to install in the system, then sudo would be useful at one point or another. Very often, such an archive contains software that must be compiled and then installed. Typically, what you then do is as follows:

tar -xzf archive-name.tar.gz
cd archive-name
./configure
make
sudo make install

As you see, only the step actually installing the program requires superuser rights; everything else happens just in your home directory, which you own. Please do not type blindly the instructions above; first, read any documents called "README" or "INSTALLATION" that you will find in the archive.
I followed thru all of that, and OpenOffice does not appear in the menu, nor can I find a folder anywhere with OpenOffice as the name.

there are 42 separate .deb files in OpenOffice
WTH am I doing wrong here?

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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by HaveaMint » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:22 pm

Inside that folder with all the deb files use terminal and type/copy

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sudo dpkg -i *.deb
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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by xenopeek » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:30 pm

AZgl1500 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:02 pm
WTH am I doing wrong here?
You're assuming there's some generic process for installing software from .tar.gz file. There's not. It's just the same as a .zip file on Windows. Anything can be in it. Read the included documentation for how to install it (usually README file) or see what the project itself has on its website for installation instructions.

For Open Office they've spelled it out for you here: https://www.openoffice.org/download/com ... html#linux. Follow all these sections:
- Linux Pre-installation Notes
- Installation Steps -- RPM or DEB: Download to Installation Directory, Unpack
- Linux DEB-based Installation

In short you should probably uninstall LibreOffice. The above makes point that you should remove a symlink only but that will be reinstalled when there is an upgrade for LibreOffice.

Next you should follow HaveaMint's instruction to install all the .deb files and should re-run that command also from the desktop-integration directory afterwards.

That said, be clear that Open Office is not actively developed. The current version (4.1.6) has a few minor changes from the previous release that was done late last year. For improvements stick with LibreOffice.
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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by phd21 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:37 pm

Hi AZgl1500,

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

I agree with "xenopeek" on this, LibreOffice is being actively maintained and updated more so than OpenOffice.

But, if you want to install OpenOffice, the instructions in the link below should work well and are similar to HaveaMint's instruction. Recommend installing Java 8 and making it the default Java runtime as well before installing OpenOffice.

How to Install Apache OpenOffice 4.1 on Ubuntu, Debian & LinuxMint
https://tecadmin.net/install-apache-ope ... tu-debian/

Note: In the above link are very good instructions for installing OpenOffice but step #3 recommends removing LibreOffice, I would not do that unless there is a conflict having both installed which I am not aware of. And I would remove any previously installed OpenOffice installation before installing the newer version.


FYI:
LibreOffice vs. OpenOffice: Making the Write Choice - Make Tech Easier
https://www.maketecheasier.com/libreoff ... penoffice/

LibreOffice vs OpenOffice: Who Wins?
https://www.lifewire.com/libreoffice-vs ... ns-2512178

Hope this helps ...
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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by HaveaMint » Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:49 pm

If you decide to go that route here is a way to completly remove libreoffice.

Type the following in terminal to remove libreoffice:

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sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove
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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by administrollaattori » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:15 pm

HaveaMint wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:49 pm
If you decide to go that route here is a way to completly remove libreoffice.

Type the following in terminal to remove libreoffice:

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sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove
Not needed to remove LibreOffice, because OpenOffice is installing to /opt folder. Only thing to be done is to make a laucher for OpenOffice.

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#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open
[Desktop Entry]
Version=1.0
Type=Application
Terminal=false
Icon[fi_FI]=/opt/openoffice4/program/logo.png
Exec=/opt/openoffice4/program/soffice
Name[fi_FI]=Open Office
Name=Open Office
Icon=/opt/openoffice4/program/logo.png
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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by jglen490 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:26 pm

Does the OP have a use case for Open Office that Libreoffice does not satisfy?

Considering history, they both share a lot of the same code, even though they are now separate developments.
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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by administrollaattori » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:39 pm

jglen490 wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:26 pm
Does the OP have a use case for Open Office that Libreoffice does not satisfy?

Considering history, they both share a lot of the same code, even though they are now separate developments.
They are different programs, which uses different paths. OpenOffice is more MS Office compatible with some writeable documents.

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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by xenopeek » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:55 pm

administrollaattori wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:39 pm
OpenOffice is more MS Office compatible with some writeable documents.
Do you have a source or example for that?

The last releases of OpenOffice that mentioned improved MS Office compatibility were 4.1.1 in August 2014 and 4.1.2 in October 2015. I'd assume it would already have been merged into LibreOffice, at least for the WebDAV bits from 4.1.2 it looks that way.
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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by phd21 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:56 pm

HI AZgl1500, administrollaattori, etc...

Did you read the links I provided? There are very good complete instructions for installing OpenOffice including "desktop integration" which is creating menu and or desktop shortcuts.

It is recommended that if you have OpenOffice already installed to remove it first before installing the current versions.

As for "OpenOffice is more MS Office compatible with some writeable documents" statment this conflicts with the reviews from those links.
Lifewire wrote:As you can tell from that list of file extensions, LibreOffice fully supports Microsoft's newest file formats used for Excel, Word, and PowerPoint. If you're looking for a great Microsoft Office alternative that will let you create MS Office formats as well as edit them, your only option here is to go with LibreOffice.
Not to mention there are security updates that are more frequent using LibreOffice over OpenOffice.

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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by administrollaattori » Tue Nov 20, 2018 4:15 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:55 pm
administrollaattori wrote:
Tue Nov 20, 2018 1:39 pm
OpenOffice is more MS Office compatible with some writeable documents.
Do you have a source or example for that?
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Re: How to install Open Office from .tar.gz

Post by AZgl1500 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:07 pm

Been a super busy day,
and I wanted to take time to read all of the links....

Purpose?
To help a friend's wife who is Non-Computer literate, and Win10 screwed up her Office package and she is super pissed. ( this morning I found out why, latest update did it and MS does not have a fix )

So, I linked into her PC remotely, and installed OpenOffice because the menus look exactly like what she is used to now....
ergo, the least amount of pain possible for her.

She is tickled pink.....
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now, for me, I have decided to just leave it on the Win7 desktop that I have, and use that to link into her PC.

and will not be putting it on my Linux laptop, I have LO 5.x tuned just the way I like it,
plus, I noted that OO will NOT export files back into Word 97.doc format, which is my default for everything.... LO 5.x does do that, and allows me to set it as the Default.

So, with that, closing this link.

all of you gave me support for learning more about all of my questions, and I thank each of you.

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