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19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:27 pm
by natchezjohn
Not long ago while trying to solve some Wine issues with 19.1 I included the comment "19.1 sux". I have been a dedicated mint mate user for a long time but when I installed 19.1 I tore my hair out trying to get Wine working (as much as I disliked Windows I ran into 2 programs I can't live without) but gave up and installed Ubuntu Mate. Ubuntu's OK but a little wonky for me, it's appearance is hokey, and it's just not as intuitive as mint. I kept going back to mint 19.1 trying to solve the Wine issue. VIOLA!!! IT'S VERY SIMPLE - INSTALL WINE 4. Then you get back the "Wine Windows Program Loader" option on right click. I tried a bunch of methods to install Wine 4 but the best is at https://kifarunix.com/how-to-install-wi ... ebian-9-8/ . It's instructions to install on Debian but it works VERY well on Mint. I'M BAAACK!

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:47 pm
by Flemur
natchezjohn wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:27 pm
I tried a bunch of methods to install Wine 4 but the best is at https://kifarunix.com/how-to-install-wi ... ebian-9-8/ .
Much better to use the wine instructions specifically for Mint/Ubuntu:
https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:33 pm
by natchezjohn
Whatever works best for you. Wine 4 is the issue, no need for Winetricks,Play on Linux, etc.

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:26 pm
by pbear
You're missing the point. It's not helpful to refer folks to a tutorial written for a different operating system. And unnecessary since WineHQ has instructions for doing this in Mint. BTW, it's water under the bridge for you now, but not difficult to get the Program Loader in 3.0.

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:47 pm
by Mint Lounger
> It's not helpful to refer folks to a tutorial written for a different operating system.

:roll: That's not true, there are many times when getting the right answer is via another distro's forums or help pages (because they are different distros, not different operating systems...big diff). I've recently read a post in Reddit's Linux section, that it's a good idea to bookmark the Arch wiki, because often you'll find the right solution there, no matter what distro you actually run. If you stick to your own distro's forums trying to resolve a problem--after you've posted it a week or more previously, without any answer--you may turn into a skeleton before you get the right result, if at all. Not all forums are created equal.

My own experience with Linux has proven the wisdom of this, as I have resolved many an issue via a forum that is not specific to the distro I'm currently using.

https://wiki.archlinux.org/

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 4:04 pm
by Mint Lounger
> VIOLA!!! IT'S VERY SIMPLE - INSTALL WINE 4.

Thank you, Natchezjohn, for the tip. I will follow through with your suggestion re. a successful Wine install.

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:40 pm
by natchezjohn
I had a problem with the WineHQ, can't remember what.

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:48 pm
by Flemur
natchezjohn wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:40 pm
I knew (disrememberd, I'm 80 years old btw) there was a reason not to use the WineHQ thingee: Copy of my terminal
...
john@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/
>
"
and you get an endlessly pulsing (after the>)
Because you have an incomplete command and an un-closed single quote; so you're recommending using weird installation instructions because you made a typing mistake with the correct instructions.

BTW It should be

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sudo apt-add-repository 'deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ bionic main' 
(or 'xenial'...)

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:55 pm
by natchezjohn
Yeah you right. Excuse me

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:09 pm
by GELvdH
I followed the instructions for loading Wine 4, now where do I find the Wine windows program loader? :oops:

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:17 pm
by Flemur
GELvdH wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:09 pm
I followed the instructions for loading Wine 4, now where do I find the Wine windows program loader? :oops:
Apparently they stopped adding wine stuff to the menu ("Apparently" because I don't use menus, so it's hearsay).

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wine name.exe
or
file-browser -> .exe file -> rt-click -> open with -> choose or type 'wine'.

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 3:51 pm
by GELvdH
OK, I have Wine working but now I have another problem with it so I better get my own post. Thanks for the help, I hope to have as much help with my new post as there has been with this one.

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:59 am
by Matthew_Wai
I ran the following to bring up "Wine Windows Program Loader".
sudo ln -s /usr/share/doc/wine-stable/examples/wine.desktop /usr/share/applications/
Flemur wrote:
Mon Apr 29, 2019 2:17 pm
they stopped adding wine stuff to the menu
That is true in my case.

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:22 pm
by Hoser Rob
Mint Lounger wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:47 pm
> It's not helpful to refer folks to a tutorial written for a different operating system.

:roll: That's not true, there are many times when getting the right answer is via another distro's forums or help pages (because they are different distros, not different operating systems...big diff). ...
Bereft of clues ... hard landing ahead ...

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 1:14 am
by Matthew_Wai
Flemur wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:47 pm
https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
Under "Installing without Internet", it says the following:

Finally, on the machine without internet, install all of the packages from the flash drive:
cd /media/usb-drive/deb-pkgs
sudo dpkg -i *.deb


How could sudo dpkg -i *.deb install the packages in the correct order? How could it determine the sequence?

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 11:43 pm
by Mint Lounger
Hoser Rob wrote:
Tue Apr 30, 2019 1:22 pm
Mint Lounger wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:47 pm
> It's not helpful to refer folks to a tutorial written for a different operating system.

:roll: That's not true, there are many times when getting the right answer is via another distro's forums or help pages (because they are different distros, not different operating systems...big diff). ...
Bereft of clues ... hard landing ahead ...
"Bereft of clues?" Nonsense. Often, an answer to a problem never shows up in a particular forum, but if one searches other forums with different distros, sometimes the answer can be found there. Because problems are rarely distro specific. You could grow old and become a skeleton if you stuck to just one forum for help.

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:23 am
by Hoser Rob
pbear wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:26 pm
You're missing the point. It's not helpful to refer folks to a tutorial written for a different operating system. ....
Yes, it IS helpful, Mint 18/19 is based on Ubuntu. And since that's the biggest distro out there, you get access to all that user base generated support.

BTW WIne is rubbish, it's a dumb hack that fails more often than not.

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:41 am
by Flemur
Now there's an even better reason to NOT use docs for Ubuntu: as per Mint release notes, to install wine in Mint 19.1, don't use any extra repos, and install the "wine-installer" package:
https://linuxmint.com/rel_tessa_cinnamon.php
To install the stable version of WINE from WineHQ, open a terminal and type:

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 apt install --install-recommends wine-installer

Re: 19.1 Making Wine work

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 8:24 am
by Matthew_Wai
sudo apt-get install wine-stable was the command I used.