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[SOLVED] kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:20 am
by Klaas Vaak
I am on 4.18.0.17 and the Update Manager lists 4.18.0.18.68 twice for updating?
How is this possible? What does it mean?

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inxi -Fxz
Lenovo-G510 Kernel: 4.18.0-17-generic x86_64 bits: 64 
  compiler: gcc v: 7.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 Distro: Linux Mint 19.1 Tessa 
  base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20238 v: Lenovo G510 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: LENOVO model: INVALID v: 31900003Std serial: <filter> UEFI: LENOVO 
  v: 79CN46WW(V3.05) date: 12/23/2013 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 13.2 Wh condition: 22.5/40.4 Wh (56%) 
  model: LENOVO PABAS0241231 status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-4700MQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Haswell rev: 3 L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 38310 
  Speed: 1093 MHz min/max: 800/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1092 2: 1097 
  3: 1098 4: 1097 5: 1098 6: 1093 7: 1097 8: 1098 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo 
  driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Device-2: AMD Mars [Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8750M] vendor: Lenovo 
  driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: ati,modesetting,radeon 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Haswell Mobile v: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.8 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio 
  vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.18.0-17-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Broadcom and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n vendor: Lenovo 
  driver: wl v: kernel port: 4000 bus ID: 08:00.0 
  IF: wlp8s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA8172 Fast Ethernet vendor: Lenovo 
  driver: alx v: kernel port: 3000 bus ID: 09:00.0 
  IF: enp9s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 23.81 GiB (2.6%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD10JPCX-24UE4T0 
  size: 931.51 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 27.38 GiB used: 16.19 GiB (59.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda9 
  ID-2: /home size: 18.21 GiB used: 6.58 GiB (36.1%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda10 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 25 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 304 Uptime: 1h 52m Memory: 5.73 GiB used: 2.00 GiB (35.0%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.3.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.19 
  inxi: 3.0.27

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x - huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:10 am
by catweazel
Klaas Vaak wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:20 am
I am on 4.18.0.17 and the Update Manager lists 4.18.0.18.68 twice for updating?
How is this possible? What does it mean?
Are you 100% certain that you're reading it right? I can't tell you because you haven't included a screen dump. I cut the inxi output because it's superfluous.

Upload a jpeg, here for example: https://imgbb.com/

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x - huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:03 am
by Klaas Vaak
I assume you mean a screenshot of the Update Manager. You can find it here https://ibb.co/ZJtV7B6
Image

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x - huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:39 am
by Pjotr
Probably two different packages for two different elements pertaining to the Linux kernel. Just install both.

Or, if you're curious: close Update Manager and do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. That should give you more information.

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x - huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:22 am
by gm10
Something I had addressed for upcoming 19.2 here:
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/pull/534

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x - huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:55 am
by Pjotr
gm10 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:22 am
Something I had addressed for upcoming 19.2 here:
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/pull/534
Thanks! Looking forward to 19.2 already. :)

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x - huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:34 am
by Klaas Vaak
Pjotr wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:39 am
Probably two different packages for two different elements pertaining to the Linux kernel. Just install both.

Or, if you're curious: close Update Manager and do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. That should give you more information.
I did the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade bit (will try to remember that for future use) is showed me a list of packages to install, to remove (autoremove), and some it would remove and was holding back. So I gave the go-ahead for all and the process went smoothly. After that I refreshed the Update Manager and both 4.18.0.18.68 offers were gone.
So, once again, thanks a lot for your help.

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x - huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:35 am
by Klaas Vaak
gm10 wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 5:22 am
Something I had addressed for upcoming 19.2 here:
https://github.com/linuxmint/mintupdate/pull/534
Thanks gm10, that is a useful move indeed.

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x - huh?

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 8:03 am
by Klaas Vaak
Pjotr, I was a bit too quick off the mark. After the installation everything was fine, though I noticed that my WiFi icon had changed:
the vertical bars were gone and it showed a monitor instead. Still, everything worked fine.
Then, suddenly the internet connection was gone. I shut down and restarted. Now the monitor is gone, and in the menu the driver manager is gone.
From the Grub I selected the recovery mode, repair network, but no change.
I tried an earlier kernel, 4.18.17-generic, still no change.
I tried kernel 4.15.0-46 generic, no change: still no network icon and no driver manager in the main Menu.

What can I do? Only reinstall Mint?

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:58 am
by Pjotr
Did you perhaps inadvertently turn off WiFi by means of the Fn key combination that does that (airplane mode)? Or did you flip a hardware switch?

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 11:45 am
by Klaas Vaak
Pjotr wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 10:58 am
Did you perhaps inadvertently turn off WiFi by means of the Fn key combination that does that (airplane mode)? Or did you flip a hardware switch?
No I did not. There is no hard switch anyway. Furthermore, a USB stick is not detected anymore, and in the file explorer (Thunar) the root file system is shown twice, and the EFI directory is not accessible anymore.

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:54 pm
by Pjotr
Do you have a Timeshift snapshot?

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:15 pm
by Klaas Vaak
Pjotr wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 12:54 pm
Do you have a Timeshift snapshot?
No, I don't. After installing Mint I tried to get TS to save to a USB stick but it could not detect the image afterwards, even though it was there. No one on this forum had a solution, so I left it at that. I only back-up my personal data, of course,in the cloud, and the packages and home directory with Aptik on a USB stick.

From your question I understand I will have to do a completely fresh installation, right?

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:11 am
by Klaas Vaak
Is this problem related to SystemD at all?

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:09 am
by Pjotr
systemd is unlikely, but for the rest I don't know. Could be anything, up to and including hardware failure.... Very strange. :?

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:50 am
by Klaas Vaak
Pjotr wrote:
Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:09 am
systemd is unlikely, but for the rest I don't know. Could be anything, up to and including hardware failure.... Very strange. :?
Hardware failure unlikely: the network icon was changed with the kernel upgrade. When I clicked on it, it said I could not access it, though internet was still available, until a short while afterwards.
1 thing I have learned from this: the golden rule I mentioned recently in the other thread and that another commenter ridiculised (stick with the kernal series the distro came with, i.e. 4.15 in my case) should be adhered to !!! Yes, my 1st upgrade from 4.15 to 4.18 went well, but the risk of problems is much enhanced, as this proves incontrovertibly.

I take it you see no other solution tha, in the absence of Timeshift, a complete, fresh reinstall, right?

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:00 am
by randomguy
Klaas Vaak wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:20 am
I am on 4.18.0.17 and the Update Manager lists 4.18.0.18.68 twice for updating?
How is this possible? What does it mean?

It means you didn't read the description.

1) linux-headers-generic-hwe-18.04 linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04
2) linux-generic-hwe-18.04

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 4:59 am
by Klaas Vaak
randomguy wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:00 am
It means you didn't read the description.

1) linux-headers-generic-hwe-18.04 linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04
2) linux-generic-hwe-18.04
Your explanation still does not mean anything to me. What's your point??

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:34 am
by cliffcoggin
Klaas.

Save yourself a lot of wasted time trying to fix your installation. Re-install right from the beginning, and this time don't ignore any warnings or skip over any reminders to set backups.

Re: kernel 4.18.0.18.68 offered 2x: installed, now network gone ! HELP.

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2019 6:34 am
by Klaas Vaak
cliffcoggin wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2019 5:34 am
Klaas.

Save yourself a lot of wasted time trying to fix your installation. Re-install right from the beginning, and this time don't ignore any warnings or skip over any reminders to set backups.
Yes, had already got to that conclusion in a related thread. My reply to Randomguy was to understand his comment - sometimes people comment thinking what they write is obvious, when it isn't.