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why are linux image editing apps so horrible?

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they seem very difficult to use if ur used to using MS paint...are there any that are more user-freindly than GIMP and krita?...thx...

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If you aren't used to the Linux apps that doesn't make them horrible.
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There's pinta. I can't fully endorse it though as it requires mono, which is something I've never kept on my Mint installs (mono is included in Mint by default).

I would just suggest to keep using Gimp, you'll get used to it. Considering all it can do, that would make MS Paint the horrible app. :wink:

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You can try Pixx or fotoxx, small and light with most basic functionalities that most people use (crop, resize, rotate ect.). Pixx is pre-installed in Mate. Gimp is a great image editor with features that rival Photoshop but is overkill for these basic functions.
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Have you ever worked with Photoshop? Have you read all the Photoshop help files?
GIMP and Krita are complex programs that you have to familiarize yourself with using internal or external aids: that is, reading, reading and practicing and practicing even more.

No AI will take that away from you.
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I use Pinta for the "replacement" of MS Paint. User-friendly interface. It's a great program to do your editing and has extra features that you may find helpful that MS Paint doesn't have.
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I usually use Pinta also. When I need to do something that Pinta cannot I go to GIMP. When I don't know how to accomplish the task in GIMP (which is almost every time I use it), there is plenty of help online to get the job done.

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Hi "billy chang",

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

You did not mention what you are trying to do with your images. Gimp and Krita are superb advanced image editors although some tasks are easy to perform.

You might try Kolourpaint a basic but excellent easy to use image editor in the Software Manager or Synaptic Package Manager (SPM).

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billy chang wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:59 pm
they seem very difficult to use if ur used to using MS paint...are there any that are more user-freindly than GIMP and krita?...thx...
ummmm, that is your Opinion, not a FACT.

I am currently using a Win10 laptop simply because it will NOT install any version of Linux "as of yet", still working on this issue. ( the daily driver running 18.3 took a nose dive )

In my frustration of working with images, I had to install GIMP on my Win10 laptop so that I could edit images "easily and like I want"..... I love that GIMP remains GIMP irrespective of what underlying OS may be in use.... for pure Browser work, and image editing, I am managing with Win10 ( gasp! ) quite well, simply because Firefox is Firefox is Firefox irrespective of what OS is underneath, and with GIMP, all is well.... I host all my images on IMGUR so nothing changed there.

I hated the Windoze image editors, pure junk IMO.... but again, we all have assholes.
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AZgl1500 wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 5:40 pm
billy chang wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:59 pm
they seem very difficult to use if ur used to using MS paint...are there any that are more user-freindly than GIMP and krita?...thx...
ummmm, that is your Opinion, not a FACT.

I am currently using a Win10 laptop simply because it will NOT install any version of Linux "as of yet", still working on this issue. ( the daily driver running 18.3 took a nose dive )

In my frustration of working with images, I had to install GIMP on my Win10 laptop so that I could edit images "easily and like I want"..... I love that GIMP remains GIMP irrespective of what underlying OS may be in use.... for pure Browser work, and image editing, I am managing with Win10 ( gasp! ) quite well, simply because Firefox is Firefox is Firefox irrespective of what OS is underneath, and with GIMP, all is well.... I host all my images on IMGUR so nothing changed there.

I hated the Windoze image editors, pure junk IMO.... but again, we all have assholes.
When in Windows, use Fast Stone: it's really intuitive and offers everything from image viewing to image editing under one interface. Left, right, top click - everything is there...
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I think you might be happy with PhotoFlare. It has a nice set of image editing tools, it is easy to use, and it has a nice interface. The only major issue for me is list of supported file formats is short - PNG, JPG, GIF, TIFF, BMP and ICO. More info at http://photoflare.io/.

PhotoFlare is available as an AppImage [see Note below]. Go to the Downloads page and download PhotoFlare-6360539-x86_64.AppImage. After the download is complete, use your file manager to navigate to the location of the file and right-click on the icon to open the menu. Select Properties, click the Permissions tab, and click the Execute box to allow executing the file as a program. Close the Properties, and double-click to run the program.

Additional information at https://github.com/PhotoFlare/photoflare.

If you need better file support, consider XnView MP. It is a very nice image viewer with a basic set image editing tools. It is available as a DEB and as an AppImage. It is one of my favorite image viewers, and I recommend it highly. For the longest time I installed the DEB, but I switched to using the AppImage. More information at https://www.xnview.com/en/xnviewmp/

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AppImage is one of the “universal” package management systems - others include Snappy and Flatpak. An AppImage is not ”installed" in the traditional sense like an application or Snap or Flatpak; it is a self-contained image of the application, and it contains everything it needs to run.

Because it is not installed, an AppImage is run from wherever the file is located. You can copy an AppImage to a USB drive and run from any linux desktop. I suggest creating an AppImage folder and place any AppImage files there.

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Actually no app, Linux or Winwoes is "horrible" just different. It's like hopping into a brand new car. You know that it will perform the same tasks as your old one, it's just a matter of finding the correct "buttons".

Actually - Windows is Horrible, sorry....I lied.
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Hi "billy chang", and Everyone Else,

I just read your post and more of the good replies to it. Here are more of my thoughts on this as well.

We still don't know what "billy chang" wants to do with the images and why.

There are many good to excellent image editors (some are easy, mid-level, or advanced) and image browsers with some editing capabilities to choose from. "XnViewMP" is a superb image browser with many features including some image editing features. "Ksnip" is a wonderful screen capture application that can also open existing images and easily do cropping, image resizing (scaling), and has superb easy to use painter annotation options (text overlay, arrows, boxes and ellipses (circles), image upload, etc...).

I think "Kolourpaint" is one of the best easy to use basic imaged editors available.

In addition to their AppImage, "Photoflare" can also be installed using their PPA or the Dhor PPA by installing the PPA or downloading the appropriate Linux deb installer files for your Linux Mint version from the PPA. The Dhor PPA also has many other image related applications. Note: the AppImage would probably provide a newer version for Linux Mint 18.x users over the PPA method.

To install Photoflare (v1.5.9) in Linux Mint 19.x using the PPA method, open a console terminal, type in, or copy & paste, each line below one by one: Click "Select All" above command, right click the highlighted command, select Copy (or Ctrl+Insert), click in the console terminal window, and right click paste ("Shift+Insert" or "Ctrl+Shift+v"), repeat for each command.

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:photoflare/photoflare-stable

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sudo apt-get update

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sudo apt install photoflare 

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Dhor PPA - Highly explosive! : Dariusz Duma
https://launchpad.net/~dhor/+archive/ubuntu/myway

To install Photoflare in Linux Mint 18.x (v1.5.2) using the PPA method, open a console terminal, type in, or copy & paste, each line below one by one: Click "Select All" above command, right click the highlighted command, select Copy (or Ctrl+Insert), click in the console terminal window, and right click paste ("Shift+Insert" or "Ctrl+Shift+v"), repeat for each command.

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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:dhor/myway

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sudo apt-get update

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sudo apt install photoflare

Hope this helps ...
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billy chang wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:59 pm
they seem very difficult to use if ur used to using MS paint...are there any that are more user-freindly than GIMP and krita?...thx...
As mentioned by phd21 Kolourpaint is a great alternative. In my opinion, it is superior to mspaint. Officially, its name is kolourpaint4 and you'll need some dependencies to make it work correctly (Unfortunately, they're not automatically installed with it).

Here's the list for installing KP4 under LM19.x:
kolourpaint4
kdelibs5-data
kdelibs5-plugins
kde-runtime
icoutils
kubuntu-debug-installer

If installing on LM17.x also include this too:
libkactivities-bin

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I admit it is decades since I saw MSPaint, but from what I remember of it, I agree with Schultz and JerryF, that Pinta seems a good alternative; small footprint, relatively simple, but can do a lot that you may need without the huge application overhead of GIMP.

I do, however, use GIMP a great deal for more complicated image editing but have never used Photoshop so have no way to compare the two.

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As others have said, Pinta is a great Paint.Net substitute and really easy to use. However, the regular install is crashing continually but seems to work great as a Flatpak install instead. The last release appears to be in 2015. We need to give developers such as those on the Pinta team a lot more love (and donations of $$$) to keep these sorts of worthwhile projects alive!

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Muzza wrote:
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As others have said, Pinta is a great Paint.Net substitute and really easy to use. However, the regular install is crashing continually
Not if you install an up-to-date version of Mono.
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Pix. Does nobody use Pix? It's preinstalled and works fine and looks nice too...
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Pix is fine for what it is, but it's image editing abilities are too limited for my needs.

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Neil Edmond wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:51 pm
I usually use Pinta also. When I need to do something that Pinta cannot I go to GIMP. When I don't know how to accomplish the task in GIMP (which is almost every time I use it), there is plenty of help online to get the job done.
Pix is fine for what it is, but it's image editing abilities are too limited for my needs.
Hi Neil. My stepping in watching and editing pictures are: Mirage (fast watching and browsing) Pix (especially crops, reducing and reformatting) and GIMP.

Between Pix and GIMP I haven't found anything that is worth the learning effort. The most cumbersome thing in GIMP are the Save... and/or Export... functions. But it's accurate. Every application that is in a professional range has a certain learning curve.
Which also speaks for GIMP: you can use it on any Linux, Mac or Windows system.
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