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Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:20 am

Hi there I just installed the new linux mint 19.2 Tina and I'm having problems with Audacity. Everything seems to work, but when I record the sound level is massive - and when I try and adjust it with the recording level slider - nothing happens. I have an audiotechnica usb mic. which works perfectly with audacity under windows... does anyone know what might be the cause of this? Thank you. David

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by trytip » Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:39 am

when you record what? use the input volume slider from the volume icon in the system tray
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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by Flemur » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:25 am

DDeighton wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 9:20 am
Hi there I just installed the new linux mint 19.2 Tina and I'm having problems with Audacity. Everything seems to work, but when I record the sound level is massive - and when I try and adjust it with the recording level slider - nothing happens. I have an audiotechnica usb mic. which works perfectly with audacity under windows... does anyone know what might be the cause of this? Thank you. David
Run

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alsamixer
in a terminal and check for mic volumes and **mic boosts**...scroll over because there will probably be stuff you can't see.

If you do a lot of audio, install "qasmixer" which is much nicer version of alsamixer, with a real GUI.
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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:35 am

Hi there, yes, thank you, I've just tried that. It makes no difference at all. I'm trying to record my voice through the mic, which I've been doing successfully for years on mint, however, this version seems to have no control over the level of the sound.

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:36 am

Also thank you, I haven't tried that, I'll give it a go...

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:05 am

Hi again, nothing seems to be working... I'll attach a screenshot of both alsa and qasmixer. Nothing I do with the sliders seems to make any difference...
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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by Lanser » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:02 pm

Hi David. What AudioTechnica USB Mic do you have? Some of them have mute & Vol buttons that can override the mixer.

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:19 pm

Hi Lanser, it's an AT2020usb.

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by Lanser » Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:57 pm

"The AT2020USB+ features a built-in headphone jack with volume control that allows you to directly monitor your microphone signal with no delay.
It also offers mix control that blends microphone and pre-recorded audio"
So it seems that the Mic has a number of features that you will need to take a look at in your mixers.
I have a couple of the older AT9934's that worked fine with LM18.x. But I haven't tried them in LM19.x
I do remember that the Vol buttons on the Mic body would override the mixer settings, so that maybe something worth playing with.

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Tue Oct 15, 2019 1:36 pm

Thank you, I'll take a look and see what it does...

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by Flemur » Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:34 pm

DDeighton wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:05 am
Hi again, nothing seems to be working... I'll attach a screenshot of both alsa and qasmixer. Nothing I do with the sliders seems to make any difference...
I wonder if the software is "talking to" something other than your USB mic, e.g. a built-in card; in qasmixer "mixer device", does "hw:" show anything interesting? Or alsamixer + F6 (=select sound card).

Edit: your alsamixer says it's talking about a Realtek ALC888 card.
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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:04 pm

I'm not sure... however... I've messed about with a few things in sound settings and set them all at the same level - and hey presto, it seems to have worked... there is still no response from Audacity's recording level slider but it's doing everything as it used to... bar that. You may be right, though... because something isn't quite as it should be even though it's working. Maybe it is talking to something else. My stepson built the PC (he knows exactly what he's doing with things) so I'll ask him whether it has a sound card separate to the motherboard or not. Unfortunately, my knowledge of these things is limited - I'm not too bad, I don't think but only have a very basic grasp of it all...

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by MrEen » Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:38 pm

Hi DDeighton, and welcome to the forum.

Install and run PulseAudio Volume Control. On the Input Devices tab, you can adjust the volume, but make sure you're doing it for the USB device. Also click on the check mark so it is highlighted if you want the microphone to be the default input device.

Your alsamixer screenshot was for the built-in sound card, not the USB mic. USB devices are their own sound cards. So you could have hit F6 in alsamixer and changed to the USB device there.

In all likelihood, Audacity's slider was controlling the level for the built-in device, but if you make the USB mic the default in pavucontrol, Audacity will probably respond properly.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by Flemur » Tue Oct 15, 2019 6:27 pm

DDeighton wrote:
Tue Oct 15, 2019 5:04 pm
I'm not sure... however... I've messed about with a few things in sound settings and set them all at the same level - and hey presto, it seems to have worked... there is still no response from Audacity's recording level slider but it's doing everything as it used to... bar that. You may be right, though... because something isn't quite as it should be even though it's working. Maybe it is talking to something else. My stepson built the PC (he knows exactly what he's doing with things) so I'll ask him whether it has a sound card separate to the motherboard or not. Unfortunately, my knowledge of these things is limited - I'm not too bad, I don't think but only have a very basic grasp of it all...
Linux audio can be funky. So you are recording from the mic now, with proper levels?

Enter these commands to see your: usb devices, and audio devices:

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lsusb
aplay -l
and for lots of output

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aplay -L
Also

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inxi -Fxz
for the info that you should post here but hardly anyone does, and look at the "Audio" part.

FWIW, mine is similar to yours (card on the m-board):

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$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]
...
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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Wed Oct 16, 2019 5:31 am

Good Morning, thank you, I'll do that shortly...

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by Lanser » Wed Oct 16, 2019 6:37 am

David I just did a quick test with my AT9934 USB Mics on LM19.1 (Mate) Kernel 4.15.0.65 No problems at all. Just needed to select the correct input.
The default audio mixer worked OK as did alsamixer when the correct audio device is selected.

card 1: AT9934USB [AT9934USB], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio]

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:44 am

david@david-desktop:~$ lsusb
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 1908:2220 GEMBIRD
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 2357:0108
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 062a:5918 Creative Labs
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0d8c:0166 C-Media Electronics, Inc.
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
david@david-desktop:~$ aplay -l^C
david@david-desktop:~$

AND

david@david-desktop:~$ aplay -L
default
Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
pulse
PulseAudio Sound Server
sysdefault:CARD=SB
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
Front speakers
surround21:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Digital
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
dmix:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
Direct sample mixing device
dmix:CARD=SB,DEV=1
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Digital
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
Direct sample snooping device
dsnoop:CARD=SB,DEV=1
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Digital
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
Direct hardware device without any conversions
hw:CARD=SB,DEV=1
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Digital
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Analog
Hardware device with all software conversions
plughw:CARD=SB,DEV=1
HDA ATI SB, ALC889A Digital
Hardware device with all software conversions
sysdefault:CARD=Device
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
Front speakers
surround21:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
dmix:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=Device,DEV=0
USB2.0 Device, USB Audio
Hardware device with all software conversions
sysdefault:CARD=Device_1
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
Front speakers
surround21:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
dmix:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
Direct sample mixing device
dsnoop:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
Direct sample snooping device
hw:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
Direct hardware device without any conversions
plughw:CARD=Device_1,DEV=0
USB PnP Sound Device, USB Audio
Hardware device with all software conversions
david@david-desktop:~$

AND

david@david-desktop:~$ inxi -Fxz
System:
Host: david-desktop Kernel: 4.15.0-65-generic x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 7.4.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.2.4
Distro: Linux Mint 19.2 Tina base: Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: M3A790GXH/128M serial: <filter>
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P1.30 date: 08/03/2009
CPU:
Topology: Dual Core model: AMD Athlon II X2 240 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: K10 rev: 2 L2 cache: 2048 KiB
flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm bogomips: 11246
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/2800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] driver: nvidia v: 340.107
bus ID: 01:00.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce 9600 GT/PCIe/SSE2 v: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.107
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: ASRock driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 00:14.2
Device-2: GEMBIRD type: USB
driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usb-storage,usbhid bus ID: 6-3:2
Device-3: C-Media type: USB driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
bus ID: 3-2:3
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.15.0-65-generic
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: ASRock driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d800 bus ID: 02:00.0
IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: wlx18a6f71782aa state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 1.82 TiB used: 35.52 GiB (1.9%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: HD103UJ size: 931.51 GiB
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size: 465.76 GiB
ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Seagate model: ST3500418AS size: 465.76 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 915.89 GiB used: 35.52 GiB (3.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 28.6 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 51 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 177 Uptime: 56m Memory: 9.76 GiB used: 1.01 GiB (10.3%)
Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 7.4.0 Shell: bash v: 4.4.20
inxi: 3.0.32
david@david-desktop:~$


AND

david@david-desktop:~$ $ aplay -l
$: command not found
david@david-desktop:~$ **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
02 Upwork Jobs: command not found
david@david-desktop:~$ card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 0: ALC888 Analog [ALC888 Analog]

Command 'card' not found, but can be installed with:

sudo apt install a2ps

david@david-desktop:~$ ...

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:45 am

I'm not quite sure what you meant but is there anything I need to do from what I've posted? Sorry for being a bit of a dunce with all this...

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:52 am

Just to say, everything is now working correctly, but I don't know why or what I did...

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Re: Audacity Recording Level not working

Post by DDeighton » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:55 am

This is what my audacity looks like now... on Win, it tells me in the recording device dropdown that there is an audiotechnica 2020 there, but in linux it doesn't...
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