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Jerry N
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Libreoffice total crash

Post by Jerry N »

I have been using Libreoffice 6.3.5.2 (installed from PPA) in Mint 19.3. An update today failed, complaining about broken packages. Libreoffice no longer worked after that. I cannot install the version that came with 19.3. I did a lot of internet searching and tried a bunch of things that were supposed to find and fix the broken packages. None of it worked! So now I am completely out of the Libreoffice business.

I have reverted back to my Mint 19.2 and have blocked any further updates to Libreoffice in the update manager (Libreoffice in my Mint 19.2 install is also version 6.3.5.2 from the PPA). Does anyone have a clue about how to fix the problem other than a complete reinstall of Mint 19.3? If I do that, I definitely WON'T install a newer version of Libreoffice using a PPA!

I could just stay with 19.2 - I haven't seen any advantage of 19.3 over 19.2 anyway.
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Re: Libreoffice total crash

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Exactly the same thing has just happened to me when upgrading to latest LO. LibreOffice now out of action.

Any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Libreoffice total crash

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allanr --- Are you using the Libreoffice installed with Mint or are using a version installed from a PPA like I am?
Just curious

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I'm using the PPA like you.

This is the first time an LO update has caused me problems. I could roll-back with Timeshift but would prefer to find a fix for what has gone wrong.

Thanks,
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Unfortunately, I am not using Timeshift (Yet)
And I think I have tried so many things to fix the problem that I have permanently screwed up the works.
By the way, now I am not sure which version I was using, only that I got it from a PPA. Probably 6.3xxx
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I use the Microsoft Home & Business suite (Outlook, Excel, Power Point, Word) on my MacBook Pro & Windows PCs for my serious dollars & cents business applications because of the relatively seamless interoperability with most of the inter-business/commerce environment.
Unfortunately other than the flimsy online offerings there is no direct Linux support for the Microsoft Office suite.
Like it or not the Microsoft Office suite of programs is still the industry standard for serious applications.
LibreOffice is fine for non-work uses.
If I email a peer an Excel spreadsheet I have a reasonable certainty that he/she will be able to open and use/update it.
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hi all

Apart from Jerry n, I'm sorry to hear that you're having problems as Mint is a rock solid distro, if you stick to what they advise.

When you start experimenting by using 'PPA's' that's your choice and responsibility.

Do I use PPA's - yep - if they go wrong, that's my fault, please guys, take responsibility.

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Re: Libreoffice total crash

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Why install LibreOffice from a PPA when you can download it directly from the LibreOffice website?

I am using LibreOffice version 6.4.2.2 without any problems.

I suggest that you remove the PPA installed version as well as the PPA from your sources listing before downloading version 6.4 directly from LibreOffice. Installation instructions are included.

To remove LibreOffice:
sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get clean
sudo apt-get autoremove
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Minux1 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:06 pm
I use the Microsoft Home & Business suite (Outlook, Excel, Power Point, Word) on my MacBook Pro & Windows PCs for my serious dollars & cents business applications because of the relatively seamless interoperability with most of the inter-business/commerce environment.
Unfortunately other than the flimsy online offerings there is no direct Linux support for the Microsoft Office suite.
Like it or not the Microsoft Office suite of programs is still the industry standard for serious applications.
LibreOffice is fine for non-work uses.
If I email a peer an Excel spreadsheet I have a reasonable certainty that he/she will be able to open and use/update it.
And what is the relevance of your post and Solution to the OP Issue???
But to answer your question of course no businesses are using LO because it is not suitable
Not even One

Just to say... Why do people always want to jump to the latest version of an application?
There is a reason LM comes not pre-installed with the latest version of LO!
If it ain't broken don't fix it...
If you Do need to upgrade due to use a new feature you need, prepare yourself (Timeshift)
Or look for issues already countered by other users Before You Upgrade.

Now... Back on Topic, to Solve the OP issue

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sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libreoffice
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sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get -f install
sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get install libreoffice
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Re: Libreoffice total crash

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On my test computer, with Mint 19.3, I set up timeshift and installed "ppa-purge".
Next I did "sudo ppa-purge ppa:libreoffice/ppa"
That was all successful so then I reinstalled libreoffice from the software manager.
Again, successful and I have libreoffice (version 6.0.7.3) back and running.

Unfortunately, these measures DID NOT work on the computer that was already hosed up by the bad upgrade.

So I still have no solution to that problem (and don't really expect one).

Thanks for the comments folks.

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Re: Libreoffice total crash

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SSpooky wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:39 pm
Minux1 wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:06 pm
I use the Microsoft Home & Business suite (Outlook, Excel, Power Point, Word) on my MacBook Pro & Windows PCs for my serious dollars & cents business applications because of the relatively seamless interoperability with most of the inter-business/commerce environment.
Unfortunately other than the flimsy online offerings there is no direct Linux support for the Microsoft Office suite.
Like it or not the Microsoft Office suite of programs is still the industry standard for serious applications.
LibreOffice is fine for non-work uses.
If I email a peer an Excel spreadsheet I have a reasonable certainty that he/she will be able to open and use/update it.
And what is the relevance of your post and Solution to the OP Issue???
But to answer your question of course no businesses are using LO because it is not suitable
Not even One

Just to say... Why do people always want to jump to the latest version of an application?
There is a reason LM comes not pre-installed with the latest version of LO!
If it ain't broken don't fix it...
If you Do need to upgrade due to use a new feature you need, prepare yourself (Timeshift)
Or look for issues already countered by other users Before You Upgrade.

Now... Back on Topic, to Solve the OP issue

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sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libreoffice
or

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sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get -f install
sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get install libreoffice
An alternative to the crashing product is always a solution.
Thanks for clarifying my point.
I think LibreOffice is an excellent full featured suite for a lot of business applications.
Too bad LO wasn’t more generic in the business world.
Most business/commercial users do not have time to wrestle with compatibility issues.
MS Office isn’t better than LO ... it’s just been around a lot longer.
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minix1 --- I run WinXP and Win7 in VirtualBox and use Microsoft Word 2003 there for some of my genealogical documents where I can do formatting that Libreoffice Writer can't even approximate. I usually have some kind of problem running Word 2003 in Wine, although it is supposed to be compatible.
In Linux, I much prefer Gnumeric over the Libreoffice spread sheet.

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An alternative to the crashing product is always a solution.
Not when you suggest 300$ proprietary software, when the user is using Open Source.
You could of suggested to install Open Office to get back in business while troubleshooting the issue.
BTW, in this case LO did Not crash by itself.
Thanks for clarifying my point.
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Jerry N wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:06 pm
minix1 --- I run WinXP and Win7 in VirtualBox and use Microsoft Word 2003 there for some of my genealogical documents where I can do formatting that Libreoffice Writer can't even approximate. I usually have some kind of problem running Word 2003 in Wine, although it is supposed to be compatible.
In Linux, I much prefer Gnumeric over the Libreoffice spread sheet.

Jerry
I’m running MS office 2007, 2016 and 2019 on the MAC.
Not an iota of real difference among them.
I never fell for the “get the latest and greatest or you’ll be the instantaneous victim of an evil hacker” scare tactics from MS or Apple.
The main evil actors out there are the extortion tactics of MS & Apple.
Getting back on topic I have used LO quite a bit and really like the suite.
Have had no problems with crashes.
I use the version from the LM repos ... not the ppa versions.
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Jerry N wrote:
Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:06 pm
minix1 --- I run WinXP and Win7 in VirtualBox and use Microsoft Word 2003 there for some of my genealogical documents where I can do formatting that Libreoffice Writer can't even approximate. I usually have some kind of problem running Word 2003 in Wine, although it is supposed to be compatible.
In Linux, I much prefer Gnumeric over the Libreoffice spread sheet.

Jerry
Wine is hit & miss ... mostly miss on most Windows apps I’ve tried to run on Linux with it.
Even the hits gave half-azz performance.
Not a wine fan.
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sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install libreoffice
or
sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get -f install
sudo apt-get purge libreoffice*
sudo apt-get install libreoffice
I also have this problem, all of the above is not working at all, it says to fix broken dependencies first, I have no idea how to fix this, does any one have a working fix for this issue?
Thanks.

this where I'm up to from the end of sudo apt-get --fix-broken install
(Reading database ... 498821 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libreoffice-math_1%3a6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libreoffice-math (1:6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2) over (1:6.3.5~rc2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1~lo1) ...
dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libreoffice-math_1%3a6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libreoffice/share/config/soffice.cfg/modules/smath/menubar/menubar.xml', which is also in package libreoffice-common 1:6.3.5~rc2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1~lo1
dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Restoring backup of /usr/share/doc/libreoffice-math ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libreoffice-math_1%3a6.4.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.2_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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Re: Libreoffice total crash

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Hi,

This is some bolluxed packaging on the part of the PPA maintainers.

I fixed it my end via...

Menu > Software Sources > PPAs and disable the Libreoffice PPA.
Follow the prompts to update the cache, close Software Sources.

The in a terminal run

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apt update

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sudo apt-get install -f
This will remove Libreoffice

The go back to into Software Sources and renable the PPA.
Follow the prompts to update the cache, close Software Sources.

Then in a terminal

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apt update

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apt install libreoffice libreoffice-gtk
All good now with

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steve@steve-Inspiron-5580:~$ libreoffice --version
LibreOffice 6.4.2.2 40(Build:2)
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Thank you very much for that, the mistake I was making was not disabling the ppa, your method has LO back up. much appreciated.

I still have that update for LO in the Update Manager, should I go ahead with it or not? I refreshed it and did a reboot but it persists.
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beachgardener wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:42 am
Thank you very much for that, the mistake I was making was not disabling the ppa, your method has LO back up. much appreciated.

I still have that update for LO in the Update Manager, should I go ahead with it or not? I refreshed it and did a reboot but it persists.
What does

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apt update; apt list --upgradable
run in a terminal return?
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