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Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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Hey guys, i'm new to the Linux world. I said goodbye to windows few days ago and installed Linux mint 20. But linux mint is draining my battery more than twice to what it used to be in case of windows. I tried TLP, powertop, Slimbookbattery but none of them were useful.


SYSTEM INFO:

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System:
  Kernel: 5.4.0-26-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 
  Desktop: Cinnamon 4.6.6 Distro: Linux Mint 20 Ulyana 
  base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP EliteBook 8460p 
  v: A0001D02 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 161C v: KBC Version 97.4E serial: <filter> 
  BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68SCF Ver. F.61 date: 06/11/2015 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 9.4 Wh condition: 39.2/39.2 Wh (100%) 
  model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-2540M bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 20751 
  Speed: 798 MHz max: 800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 3: 798 4: 798 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 3000 (SNB GT2) 
  v: 3.3 Mesa 20.0.4 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-26-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
  driver: N/A port: 4060 bus ID: 00:19.0 
  Device-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
  port: 4040 bus ID: 24:00.0 
  IF: wlo1 state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 254.71 GiB (54.7%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000LPCX-00VHAT0 
  size: 465.76 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 39.12 GiB used: 6.17 GiB (15.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 
  ID-2: /boot size: 487.9 MiB used: 105.0 MiB (21.5%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda1 
  ID-3: /home size: 412.66 GiB used: 248.44 GiB (60.2%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda4 
  ID-4: swap-1 size: 5.00 GiB used: 1.3 MiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 214 Uptime: 3h 36m Memory: 3.76 GiB used: 1.53 GiB (40.7%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.16 
  inxi: 3.0.38 


Powertop Results

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Overview:



The battery reports a discharge rate of 14.1 W
The power consumed was 0.00 J
The estimated remaining time is 0 hours, 10 minutes

Summary: 1634.1 wakeups/second,  0.0 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 26.3% CPU use

Power est.              Usage       Events/s    Category       Description
  10.4 W      1.5%                      Device         Display backlight
  200 mW      0.0 pkts/s                Device         Network interface: wlo1 (iwlwifi)
 39.1 mW    100.0%                      Device         Radio device: hp-wmi
 9.97 mW     23.0 ms/s      91.0        Process        [PID 12376] /usr/libexec/gnome-terminal-server
 8.17 mW     20.7 ms/s       2.9        Process        [PID 966] /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
 7.66 mW     10.1 ms/s     370.8        Interrupt      PS/2 Touchpad / Keyboard / Mouse
 6.42 mW      7.8 ms/s     335.9        Timer          tick_sched_timer
 6.41 mW     16.3 ms/s      0.00        Timer          hrtimer_wakeup
 5.76 mW     11.6 ms/s     118.1        Process        [PID 1020] /usr/lib/xorg/Xorg -core :0 -seat seat0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
 5.52 mW     14.0 ms/s       1.0        Process        [PID 12397] /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
 5.48 mW     10.0 ms/s     153.9        Process        [PID 11076] powertop
 5.39 mW     13.6 ms/s       2.9        Process        [PID 12453] /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
 5.37 mW      9.6 ms/s     157.8        Process        [PID 2086] powertop
 5.34 mW      9.8 ms/s     149.1        Process        [PID 7481] powertop
 4.64 mW     11.6 ms/s       7.7        Process        [PID 446] /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
 4.41 mW     10.2 ms/s      37.8        Process        [PID 1560] cinnamon --replace
 4.00 mW     10.1 ms/s       3.9        Interrupt      [7] sched(softirq)
 3.64 mW      9.2 ms/s       1.0        Process        [PID 12452] /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
 3.20 mW      8.1 ms/s       1.0        Process        [PID 12454] /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
 3.06 mW      7.0 ms/s      31.9        Process        [PID 12422] powertop
 2.62 mW      6.6 ms/s       1.0        Process        [PID 12456] /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
 2.59 mW      6.5 ms/s       1.9        Process        [PID 12455] /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
 2.17 mW      5.5 ms/s       1.9        Process        [PID 1] /sbin/init splash
 1.78 mW      4.5 ms/s       1.0        Process        [PID 12457] /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
 1.72 mW      4.4 ms/s      0.00        Interrupt      [1] timer(softirq)
 1.51 mW      3.8 ms/s      0.00        Process        [PID 759] /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system --address=systemd: --nofork --nopidfile --systemd-activation --syslog-only
 1.18 mW      2.8 ms/s       6.8        Process        [PID 12289] nm-dispatcher
 1.12 mW      2.8 ms/s      0.00        Interrupt      [9] RCU(softirq)



Device Stats:

The battery reports a discharge rate of 16.7 W
The power consumed was 283 J
System baseline power is estimated at 11.2 W

Power est.    Usage     Device name
  4.39 W      1.5%        Display backlight
  4.39 W      0.0%        Display backlight
  1.63 W     60.7%        CPU core
  615 mW     60.7%        CPU misc
  100 mW    100.0%        Radio device: iwlwifi
 39.1 mW    100.0%        Radio device: hp-wmi
    0 mW      0.0%        USB device: EHCI Host Controller
    0 mW      0.0 pkts/s  Network interface: wlo1 (iwlwifi)
    0 mW      0.0%        Audio codec hwC0D0: IDT
    0 mW      0.0%        USB device: HP HD Webcam [Fixed] (Primax Electronics Ltd.)
    0 mW      0.0%        USB device: usb-device-8087-0024
    0 mW      0.0%        USB device: EHCI Host Controller
    0 mW      0.0%        Audio codec hwC0D1: LSI
    0 mW      0.0%        Radio device: hp-wmi
    0 mW      0.0%        Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel
    0 mW      0.0%        USB device: usb-device-8087-0024
    0 mW      0.0%        USB device: usb-device-138a-003c
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 4
            100.0%        PCI Device: JMicron Technology Corp. SD/MMC Host Controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port Mobile SATA AHCI Controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation QM67 Express Chipset LPC Controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: JMicron Technology Corp. IEEE 1394 Host Controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 2
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
            100.0%        PCI Device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 3
              0.0%        runtime-reg-dummy
              0.0%        runtime-PNP0C0D:00

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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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Check the support section of the HP website for a BIOS update. When available, apply it and test again.
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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How do you choose the bios? I went to the hp website and it detected my os linux. But the BIOS showing up were released on Mar 15, 2011. Which is actually older than my current bios.
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:56 am

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CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-2540M bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 20751 
  Speed: 798 MHz max: 800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 3: 798 4: 798 

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The battery reports a discharge rate of 14.1 W
The power consumed was 0.00 J
The estimated remaining time is 0 hours, 10 minutes

Summary: 1634.1 wakeups/second,  0.0 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 26.3% CPU use
0D:00

Intel Core i5-2540M is 35 W TDP processor with max 3.30 GHz turbo booste frequency. Inxi reported max 800 MHz. That is strange. Chech settings in BIOS.

Powertop reported discharge rate of 14.1 W at 26.3 % CPU use. For computer with 35 W CPU this seems to me quite normal.

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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:05 am How do you choose the bios? I went to the hp website and it detected my os linux. But the BIOS showing up were released on Mar 15, 2011. Which is actually older than my current bios.
When I had to flash the BIOS on a EliteBook 840 G1 I just chose to download the BIOS for another OS (e.g. Windows 7 64 bit) which was more recent.

At least for my EliteBook it's possible to flash the BIOS from within the BIOS setup itself. So this might be true for yours as well.

Required files and directory structure were indicated by the BIOS setup flash utility.
So I just extracted the contents of the BIOS download and then copied the files to a USB flash drive as required.
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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Can you please explain it further or give me link to any tutorial? I have never done this before.


BTW i have downloaded the latest bios.
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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senjoz wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:14 am
TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:56 am

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CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-2540M bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 20751 
  Speed: 798 MHz max: 800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 3: 798 4: 798 

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The battery reports a discharge rate of 14.1 W
The power consumed was 0.00 J
The estimated remaining time is 0 hours, 10 minutes

Summary: 1634.1 wakeups/second,  0.0 GPU ops/seconds, 0.0 VFS ops/sec and 26.3% CPU use
0D:00

Intel Core i5-2540M is 35 W TDP processor with max 3.30 GHz turbo booste frequency. Inxi reported max 800 MHz. That is strange. Chech settings in BIOS.

Powertop reported discharge rate of 14.1 W at 26.3 % CPU use. For computer with 35 W CPU this seems to me quite normal.

Regards,
Jože


What do i have to check in the bios?
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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If you can't update in the BIOS itself, and if you no longer have Windows on that machine: there is a way, but it will cost you some hours:

1. Get a free legal copy of an evaluation disc of Windows 10 Enterprise, from Microsoft itself:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcen ... enterprise

2. Backup your documents etc., and then install Windows 10 with that DVD (thus wiping your Linux Mint);

3. Apply the BIOS update;

4. Re-install Linux Mint.

Personally I'd do it (if it doesn't help for your current problem: a newer BIOS is always nice), but of course it's up to you to determine whether it's worth your while. :wink:
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:11 am Can you please explain it further or give me link to any tutorial? I have never done this before.


BTW i have downloaded the latest bios.
I'm sorry but I wouldn't consider flashing the BIOS something for inexperienced users.
If things go wrong your computer might become useless.

It probably would be better if you have someone more knowledgeable flashing the BIOS for you. - A nearby computer store maybe?
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Ok but hows it going to help? On the same bios i was getting a better battery backup on windows.
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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Kirara wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:25 am
TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:11 am Can you please explain it further or give me link to any tutorial? I have never done this before.


BTW i have downloaded the latest bios.
I'm sorry but I wouldn't consider flashing the BIOS something for inexperienced users.
If things go wrong your computer might become useless.

It probably would be better if you have someone more knowledgeable flashing the BIOS for you. - A nearby computer store maybe?


Ok but hows it going to help? On the same bios i was getting a better battery backup on windows.
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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Pjotr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:24 am If you can't update in the BIOS itself, and if you no longer have Windows on that machine: there is a way, but it will cost you some hours:

1. Get a free legal copy of an evaluation disc of Windows 10 Enterprise, from Microsoft itself:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcen ... enterprise

2. Backup your documents etc., and then install Windows 10 with that DVD (thus wiping your Linux Mint);

3. Apply the BIOS update;

4. Re-install Linux Mint.

Personally I'd do it (if it doesn't help for your current problem: a newer BIOS is always nice), but of course it's up to you to determine whether it's worth your while. :wink:


I'm not going back to the windows, i need some solution with linux.
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TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:49 am
Pjotr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:24 am If you can't update in the BIOS itself, and if you no longer have Windows on that machine: there is a way, but it will cost you some hours:

1. Get a free legal copy of an evaluation disc of Windows 10 Enterprise, from Microsoft itself:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcen ... enterprise

2. Backup your documents etc., and then install Windows 10 with that DVD (thus wiping your Linux Mint);

3. Apply the BIOS update;

4. Re-install Linux Mint.

Personally I'd do it (if it doesn't help for your current problem: a newer BIOS is always nice), but of course it's up to you to determine whether it's worth your while. :wink:


I'm not going back to the windows, i need some solution with linux.
It looks to me you have two options:

1. Complain to HP that they should provide a Linux solution for updating the BIOS, and pray humbly to all the gods you know for the cooperation of HP;

2. Be practical and apply my potential solution.

Suit yourself. :mrgreen:
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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Pjotr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:52 am
TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:49 am
Pjotr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:24 am If you can't update in the BIOS itself, and if you no longer have Windows on that machine: there is a way, but it will cost you some hours:

1. Get a free legal copy of an evaluation disc of Windows 10 Enterprise, from Microsoft itself:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcen ... enterprise

2. Backup your documents etc., and then install Windows 10 with that DVD (thus wiping your Linux Mint);

3. Apply the BIOS update;

4. Re-install Linux Mint.

Personally I'd do it (if it doesn't help for your current problem: a newer BIOS is always nice), but of course it's up to you to determine whether it's worth your while. :wink:


I'm not going back to the windows, i need some solution with linux.


It looks to me you have two options:

1. Complain to HP that they should provide a Linux solution for updating the BIOS, and pray humbly to all the gods you know for the cooperation of HP;

2. Be practical and apply my potential solution.

Suit yourself. :mrgreen:




there is another way using bootable usb to update bios, can i use that? and are you sure it will solve the battery drain problem?
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TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:55 am are you sure it will solve the battery drain problem?
No. But it's worth a try.
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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Pjotr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:00 am
TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:55 am are you sure it will solve the battery drain problem?
No. But it's worth a try.
Ok there have been several bios update since then, do i have to apply all of them in sequence or i can just go with the latest one?
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TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:06 am
Pjotr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:00 am
TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:55 am are you sure it will solve the battery drain problem?
No. But it's worth a try.
Ok there have been several bios update since then, do i have to apply all of them in sequence or i can just go with the latest one?
Unless specified otherwise by HP: no sequence, simply directly the latest.
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TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:48 am Ok but hows it going to help? On the same bios i was getting a better battery backup on windows.
True actually, I can't explain why there should be any difference from a BIOS point of view.

You only need to apply the latest version.

I actually was surprised how untouched HP's BIOS update functionality looks when compared to the original one from Compaq.
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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Kirara wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:49 pm
TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:48 am Ok but hows it going to help? On the same bios i was getting a better battery backup on windows.
True actually, I can't explain why there should be any difference from a BIOS point of view.

You only need to apply the latest version.

I actually was surprised how untouched HP's BIOS update functionality looks when compared to the original one from Compaq.


So now i have the latest bios on my machine, but the battery drain problem still persists.
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Re: Linux mint 20 Battery Drain issue on HP Elitebook 8460p

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Pjotr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:43 pm
TJ101 wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:06 am
Pjotr wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:00 am

No. But it's worth a try.
Ok there have been several bios update since then, do i have to apply all of them in sequence or i can just go with the latest one?
Unless specified otherwise by HP: no sequence, simply directly the latest.
Hey i have updated the bios to the latest but the problem still persists.
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