More problems with update manager

[OunceofCommonSense]

Since mid February I have not been able to get auto updates to work in Update Manager. So I have been manually updating. Today I tried to update and it seems stuck (see screenshot)

[OunceofCommonSense]

Auto updates still broken but the last manual update did work.

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System:
  Kernel: 5.4.0-73-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 
  Desktop: Cinnamon 4.8.6 wm: muffin 4.8.1 dm: LightDM 1.30.0 
  Distro: Linux Mint 20.1 Ulyssa base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: Z77 Extreme4-M serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: P1.80 date: 08/07/2013 
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M510 
  serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes 
  status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-3770K bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 56002 
  Speed: 1701 MHz min/max: 1600/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1636 2: 1600 
  3: 1600 4: 1603 5: 1744 6: 1601 7: 1601 8: 1698 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics 
  vendor: ASRock driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0162 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
  resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) 
  v: 4.2 Mesa 20.2.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio 
  vendor: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1e20 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-73-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: ASRock driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  chip ID: 10ec:8168 
  IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 9.21 TiB used: 3.39 TiB (36.8%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Intel model: SSDSC2CW120A3 size: 111.79 GiB 
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 400i scheme: GPT 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: HGST (Hitachi) model: HDN726060ALE614 
  size: 5.46 TiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> 
  rev: W7JH scheme: GPT 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Seagate model: ST4000VN000-1H4168 size: 3.64 TiB 
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: 5900 rpm serial: <filter> rev: SC43 scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 32.60 GiB used: 18.95 GiB (58.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 
  ID-2: /home size: 22.19 GiB used: 8.29 GiB (37.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
  ID-3: swap-1 size: 14.90 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdc2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 35.0 C mobo: 34.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 868 fan-2: 1019 fan-3: 0 fan-4: 0 fan-5: 0 
  Voltages: 12v: N/A 5v: N/A 3.3v: 3.36 vbat: 3.28 
Repos:
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/additional-repositories.list 
  1: deb http://liveusb.info/multisystem/depot all main
  2: deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/ubuntu/ focal main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list 
  1: deb [arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/cappelikan-ppa-focal.list 
  1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/cappelikan/ppa/ubuntu focal main
  2: deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/cappelikan/ppa/ubuntu focal main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-earth-pro.list 
  1: deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/earth/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/linuxuprising-shutter-focal.list 
  1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxuprising/shutter/ubuntu focal main
  2: deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/linuxuprising/shutter/ubuntu focal main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list 
  1: deb http://mirrors.evowise.com/linuxmint/packages ulyssa main upstream import backport
  2: deb http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu focal main restricted universe multiverse
  3: deb http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu focal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
  4: deb http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/ubuntu focal-backports main restricted universe multiverse
  5: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
  6: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ focal partner
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
  1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free #Opera Browser (final releases)
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/phoerious-keepassxc-focal.list 
  1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/phoerious/keepassxc/ubuntu focal main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list 
  1: deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sublime-text.list 
  1: deb https://download.sublimetext.com/ apt/stable/
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/team-xbmc-ppa-focal.list 
  1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu focal main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntuhandbook1-audacity-focal.list 
  1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntuhandbook1/audacity/ubuntu focal main
  2: deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntuhandbook1/audacity/ubuntu focal main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/yannubuntu-boot-repair-focal.list 
  1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair/ubuntu focal main
Info:
  Processes: 290 Uptime: 1h 14m Memory: 15.34 GiB used: 2.45 GiB (16.0%) 
  Init: systemd v: 245 Compilers: gcc: 9.3.0 alt: 9 Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 
  running in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.0.38 

[SMG]

Do you have a Timeshift snapshot from when the system was working properly? That is usually the easiest way to restore to a working system.

I have not done troubleshooting with Update Manager, but perhaps uninstalling minupdate and reinstalling might help if you do not have a Timeshift snapshot.

[OunceofCommonSense]

Problem dates back to February, so I don't have any snapshots that far back. I tried

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$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall synaptic mintupdate

but it didn't help
I will try uninstalling and installing. Are these the commands?

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$ sudo apt-get uninstall synaptic mintupdate
$ sudo apt-get install synaptic mintupdate

[SMG]

I will try uninstalling and installing. Are these the commands?

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$ sudo apt-get uninstall synaptic mintupdate
$ sudo apt-get install synaptic mintupdate

I am not aware that synapitc is needed. According to this post it is not needed. The OP of that thread is also having issues.

The person in this thread (SOLVED) LM 20.1 update manager problem resolved the issue with a Timeshift snapshot.

[karlchen]

Inside Synaptic Package Manager it is pretty easy to check the dependencies of the software package mintupdate ... and find out that mintupdate does depend on synaptic.

The really mean thing is that there is a touchpad driver named Synaptics. mintupdate does not depend on the touchpad driver.

[SMG]

Inside Synaptic Package Manager it is pretty easy to check the dependencies of the software package mintupdate ... and find out that mintupdate does depend on synaptic.

Are you indicating one has to uninstall synaptic in order to uninstall mintupdate? I did not think that was the case which is to what my comment referred, but I defer to others with more experience.

[karlchen]

Hi, SMG.

You wrote "I am not aware that synapitc is needed.". But synaptic is needed by mintupdate.
It is, however, really not required to uninstall synaptic as well, if you want to uninstall mintupdate.
In this sense, synaptic is not needed in the uninstall command above your sentence.
This was a classic example illlustrating that human language is not always unambiguous.

Cheers,
Karl

[OunceofCommonSense]

I tried both

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sudo apt-get uninstall mintupdate

and

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sudo apt-get uninstall synaptic mintupdate

and got this

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E: Invalid operation uninstall

I also tried

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sudo apt uninstall mintupdate

This site https://installlion.com/linuxmint/sarah ... index.html has some suggestions. Do I need to purge, remove dependencies or just remove miniupdate

[OunceofCommonSense]

So this is what I did

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$ sudo apt-get purge mintupdate
[sudo] password for david:         
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-5.4.0-65 linux-headers-5.4.0-65-generic linux-headers-5.4.0-70
  linux-headers-5.4.0-70-generic linux-image-5.4.0-65-generic
  linux-image-5.4.0-70-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-65-generic
  linux-modules-5.4.0-70-generic
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  apturl* apturl-common* mint-meta-cinnamon* mint-meta-core* mintupdate*
  mintwelcome*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 6 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
After this operation, 6,245 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
(Reading database ... 487364 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing mint-meta-cinnamon (2021.01.02) ...
Removing mint-meta-core (2021.01.02) ...
Removing mintwelcome (2.5.0) ...
Removing apturl (0.5.2+linuxmint11) ...
Removing apturl-common (0.5.2+linuxmint11) ...
Removing mintupdate (5.7.3) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.64ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.36.0-1ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0:amd64 (2.64.6-1~ubuntu20.04.3) ...
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0:i386 (2.64.6-1~ubuntu20.04.3) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.1-1) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.24+linuxmint1) ...
(Reading database ... 486183 files and directories currently installed.)
Purging configuration files for mintwelcome (2.5.0) ...
Purging configuration files for mintupdate (5.7.3) ...
dpkg: warning: while removing mintupdate, directory '/usr/lib/linuxmint/mintUpdate' not empty so not removed
Purging configuration files for apturl-common (0.5.2+linuxmint11) ...
www@tttt:~$ sudo apt-get install mintupdate
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  linux-headers-5.4.0-65 linux-headers-5.4.0-65-generic linux-headers-5.4.0-70
  linux-headers-5.4.0-70-generic linux-image-5.4.0-65-generic
  linux-image-5.4.0-70-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-65-generic
  linux-modules-5.4.0-70-generic
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  mintupdate
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/582 kB of archives.
After this operation, 5,238 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Selecting previously unselected package mintupdate.
(Reading database ... 486176 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../mintupdate_5.7.3_all.deb ...
Unpacking mintupdate (5.7.3) ...
Setting up mintupdate (5.7.3) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.24+linuxmint1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.64ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ...
Processing triggers for gnome-menus (3.36.0-1ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0:amd64 (2.64.6-1~ubuntu20.04.3) ...
Processing triggers for libglib2.0-0:i386 (2.64.6-1~ubuntu20.04.3) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.1-1) ...

Time will tell if that fixed it

[OunceofCommonSense]

Definitely no improvement. Auto update does not function.

[michalq]

see for info: viewtopic.php?p=2016455#p2016455

The only way is restore from latest yet functional Timeshift snapshot ...

[Alan16]

Definitely no improvement. Auto update does not function.

Have you considered not using automatic updates? Pjotr advises against it here: https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... pdate.html

Warning: DO NOT enable automatic updates (...)
5. Unfortunately, Update Manager now also contains an automatic update feature. Thankfully it's not enabled by default, because updates should always be done consciously. So that they won't ever interrupt or damage your work.

[OunceofCommonSense]

I have used auto updates for the last few years and never had an issue until now when they don't work to update