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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Howard_P wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:55 pm The thing I hate and would like help eliminating is the change in my up-down scroll bar. I previously had altered it so that it was wide, which I like. That alteration was done like this:

Then copy and paste the following into this gtk.css file: ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css

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/* Include scrollbar steppers */
.scrollbar,
scrollbar {
-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
}

scrollbar button {
min-width: 20px;
min-height: 20px;
}


This set of alterations produced a nice wide scroll bar. The new version is, as I said, skinny. The alterations that I had previously made remain intact but don't seem to work any more. Other programs (Ungoogled Chromium, Thunderbird etc) remain as they were. If anyone can help with this I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -Howard
I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but I made mine nice and wide by using about:config and changing widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size to "30". Is the code you posted above for your system scrollbar width? I changed mine using the Linux Mint settings UI a long time ago, but it didn't make a difference with Firefox's scrollbar. If you type about:config in the FF address bar and then set the width to whatever you prefer... that should work, I think.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Thanks Maria, that worked like a charm! -Howard
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Howard_P wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 12:37 am Thanks Maria, that worked like a charm! -Howard
I'm glad! :)

I use site specific browsers with Firefox, so I've been having to redo all of these fixes for each one of 10 SSBs, which has really amplified my annoyance with FF.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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has anyone else had the FF89 actually freezing :?:
:?
after several minutes of use .. with LM20x series ..
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Does anyone know how to increase the GUI font size?

Edited to add: by that I mean the text in the Title, Address & Menu bars, and Tabs.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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spamegg wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:54 am Also I got the old Tab Bar back with browser.proton.enable set to false.
Just wanted to thank you for this setting. Now the tabs are back to how they were before :) It wasn't really possible to tell one from another with the new settings. Other than that, it looks okay I think. The tiny scrollbar is a bit annoying at times, especially when it disappears entirely and you need to guess where to click, and most likely miss. But there are some advantages with it as well, like taking up less space. I'm mixed about it.

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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Pangaea wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:41 am
spamegg wrote: Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:54 am Also I got the old Tab Bar back with browser.proton.enable set to false.
The tiny scrollbar is a bit annoying at times, especially when it disappears entirely and you need to guess where to click, and most likely miss. But there are some advantages with it as well, like taking up less space. I'm mixed about it.
I used to get quite annoyed about small scrollbars but have got used to two finger scrolling. If you have a laptop it's well worth checking if it works there. It becomes second nature and I don't even think about it now. I never look for the scroller in a browser, it's just quicker (and easier) to use the touchpad.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Grateful4Linux wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 11:59 pm
Howard_P wrote: Sun Jun 06, 2021 9:55 pm The thing I hate and would like help eliminating is the change in my up-down scroll bar. I previously had altered it so that it was wide, which I like. That alteration was done like this:

Then copy and paste the following into this gtk.css file: ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css

/* Include scrollbar steppers */
.scrollbar,
scrollbar {
-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
}

scrollbar button {
min-width: 20px;
min-height: 20px;
}


This set of alterations produced a nice wide scroll bar. The new version is, as I said, skinny. The alterations that I had previously made remain intact but don't seem to work any more. Other programs (Ungoogled Chromium, Thunderbird etc) remain as they were. If anyone can help with this I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -Howard
I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but I made mine nice and wide by using about:config and changing widget.non-native-theme.scrollbar.size to "30". Is the code you posted above for your system scrollbar width? I changed mine using the Linux Mint settings UI a long time ago, but it didn't make a difference with Firefox's scrollbar. If you type about:config in the FF address bar and then set the width to whatever you prefer... that should work, I think.
To achieve a wider scrollbar and steppers at top and bottom I found I needed both the ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css and the about:config changes mentioned here; without both of those two I did not get the scrollbar as I wanted it.
As I have said elsewhere, Mozilla seems to be following gnome philosophy of giving us what they want us to have rather than what we would prefer, though I admit that gnome is a DE that I don't use, and personally find almost unusable.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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I upgraded one of my Mint systems. It's still running Mint 19 for now, but when I went to fire up Firefox 89, I couldn't see enough of the GUI to tell you whether it sucks or not. The text was all wavey and very faint, the window itself was fairly transparent...basically, unusable. Now, I'm trying to work up the courage to boot up my Mint 20 install and try upgrading FF there.

Anyone see this behavior? I really don't want to have to go hunt down another browser...so many have gone to Chrome at their core. I hate Chrome.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Then copy and paste the following into this gtk.css file: ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css

/* Include scrollbar steppers */
.scrollbar,
scrollbar {
-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
}

scrollbar button {
min-width: 20px;
min-height: 20px;
}
It's also possible to modify the vertical slider width or horizontal slider height if they are too thick or thin in the same gtk.css file :

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scrollbar.vertical slider,
scrollbar.slider.vertical
{
    min-width: 15px;
}

scrollbar.horizontal slider,
scrollbar.slider.horizontal
{
    min-height: 15px;
}
Of course, be coherent : the slider size should not exceed the scrollbar size 8)

PS : Works also with ESR
dual boot LMDE4 (mostly) + LM19.3 Cinnamon (sometimes)
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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vidarrledrhals wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 11:01 pm The text was all wavey and very faint, the window itself was fairly transparent...basically, unusable. ..
Anyone see this behavior?
This did not happen to me. Maybe you are using a particular theme which was affected?

I thought someone else mentioned transparency in this thread, but maybe I read the issue somewhere else. I do not recall for sure (because I was not affected by it).
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Pierre wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:39 am has anyone else had the FF89 actually freezing :?:
:?
after several minutes of use .. with LM20x series ..
YES!!!
I have to keep doing: Crtl-Alt-F1 to go to the terminal to kill all firefox. It locks up the whole GUI.
It just started on 89. It's happened about 8 times now.
Until now, this PC has been solid as far as crashing.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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shockedquartz wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:00 am
Pierre wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 2:39 am has anyone else had the FF89 actually freezing :?:
:?
after several minutes of use .. with LM20x series ..
YES!!!
I have to keep doing: Crtl-Alt-F1 to go to the terminal to kill all firefox. It locks up the whole GUI.
It just started on 89. It's happened about 8 times now.
Until now, this PC has been solid as far as crashing.
That is likely (although not definitely) to be because of Extensions or Plugins.
Try running FF without them and see if you get the same crashes.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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FWIW, I've had no crashes with FF89. In my case, I shutdown overnight to give me a clean slate the next day (except in very rare cases).
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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No crashes on my system either, though as I've said in previous posts, I do use a personal ~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css file, I have modified the about:config settings for proton and scrollbar width/steppers, and have a personalised userChrome.css file in my firefox profile to the point that the FF window layout now looks as good as it did before.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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It seems like the new FF does not want to go to the root of a (local?) website. This is noticeable when testing the start of a fresh django project (demo page that gets delivered by "python manage.py runserver") by pointing FF at "127.0.0.1:8000" - it now always wants to go to "127.0.0.1:8000/catalog". Chromium and curl don't have that problem, and FF didn't do that 2 weeks ago.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Bob M wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:44 am This is weird.

My Desktop running Mint 19.3 Cinnamon updated Firefox to Ver 89.0 and so far I haven’t noticed any difference.

When I read this thread I thought it might be waiting for a reboot so I did that but still no difference.

Hope I haven’t spoken too soon. :D
Running essentially the same setup, and I've definitely noticed one huge difference: download times. 150KB files that used to take ~3 sec to acquire are now taking more like ~30 sec. and the download ties up all other functions of the browser. I hope they fix this soon, 'cause I can't get PaleMoon to load.
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Re: Firefox 89.0 update last night and ugh!!!

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Dale_R wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 11:43 pm
I’m starting to feel very lonely not having any problem with Firefox 89 on three different computers. (Desktop & Laptop & Thinkpad. :(

Is there somebody else, somewhere, not having a problem either???? :D
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Bob M

I am with you. No problems at all

best regards Keith
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tinca wrote: Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:32 am
Thanks Keith,

That’s a relief not being alone. :D
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