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MP3Gain and GUI
Hi - as per my other posts I have updated Mint from 19.3 to 20.2 and am trying to work out by exception what is now missing. One of the things is MP3Gain and associated GUI which I used daily for my radio stuff. I have found the following thread:
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=333624&p=1909627&h ... n#p1909627
Which has been helpful in that I now have MP3Gain working again. I also recognise your name phd21 from other audio help you have kindly given me in the past
Is there any GUI available that I am able to use or download and compile to get it working with MP3Gain or do I need to jump back to Windows to make the changes and then log back into Mint and broadcast that way? I never ever use the terminal for this sort of thing (the MP3gain stuff)
Thank you
Kyle
viewtopic.php?f=47&t=333624&p=1909627&h ... n#p1909627
Which has been helpful in that I now have MP3Gain working again. I also recognise your name phd21 from other audio help you have kindly given me in the past
Is there any GUI available that I am able to use or download and compile to get it working with MP3Gain or do I need to jump back to Windows to make the changes and then log back into Mint and broadcast that way? I never ever use the terminal for this sort of thing (the MP3gain stuff)
Thank you
Kyle
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
https://alternativeto.net/software/mp3g ... form=linux
I found that by searching for mp3gain gui.
There are other options, which you'll see when you do your own search, but be aware that they are nearly all Qt4, which is old. and any Qt application, irrespective of the version of Qt, will pull in a lot of Qt libraries, and that might not be to your liking, so take a timeshift snapshot before playing with any of that stuff.
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
Thank you - interestingly I did find those via that search last night before posting and the when I was trying to install the warning I was given was Dependency is not satisfiable: libwxgtk3.0-0v5 (>= 3.0.2+dfsg)Kadaitcha Man wrote: ⤴Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:26 pmhttps://alternativeto.net/software/mp3g ... form=linux
I found that by searching for mp3gain gui.
There are other options, which you'll see when you do your own search, but be aware that they are nearly all Qt4, which is old. and any Qt application, irrespective of the version of Qt, will pull in a lot of Qt libraries, and that might not be to your liking, so take a timeshift snapshot before playing with any of that stuff.
I was getting that on any of the ones I tried (so I did look online before asking here) - I will install that though and see how I get on. Thank you.
EDIT: On trying to install wxMP3Gain which was last updated in 2019, I am following the instructions but am now getting Package 'libwxgtk3.0-dev' has no installation candidate so I am stuck again. I can only find one QT4 version in a tar.gz file but the instructions seem to be for Windows
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
I found this: https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.c ... .html#ID16
The GUI you are looking for died around 14 years ago. It's long gone, and it was as buggy all heck.
The GUI you are looking for died around 14 years ago. It's long gone, and it was as buggy all heck.
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
Thanks Kadaitcha - just checked and I have the MP3Gain package, it's the GUI that I was after. I did use The Wayback Machine and it seems at one point the AppImage for EasyMP3Gain was indeed there but the service has now closed in any case.
I did have a think and (don't know why I didn't realise this), QTGain is in the Software Manager, well, an older version. It seems less featured but it might do the job for what I am after so I will try that for tonight and see how I get on.
I did have a think and (don't know why I didn't realise this), QTGain is in the Software Manager, well, an older version. It seems less featured but it might do the job for what I am after so I will try that for tonight and see how I get on.
Re: MP3Gain and GUI
I installed the eoan version of mp3gain from the PPA at https://launchpad.net/~flexiondotorg/+a ... untu/audio into my system and it works fine.
There is no focal version but the eoan version works with no problems; I just downloaded the .deb package from the PPA and installed it with which is very easily done in terminal from the folder where the deb is sitting.
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I see it is just the GUI you want but sorry to say that it is, or was, a waste of time and simply did not work for me.
There is no focal version but the eoan version works with no problems; I just downloaded the .deb package from the PPA and installed it with
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sudo apt install ./mp3gain.deb
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I see it is just the GUI you want but sorry to say that it is, or was, a waste of time and simply did not work for me.
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In summary: there is at this time no GUI for mp3gain. Also mp3gain by itself is abandonware. Yet, it is (again) available in the standard Ubuntu software repositories. The latest version dates from 2009.
Also the mp3 format itself is old and frozen. Time to move on to ogg vorbis or opus.
Try to get over that fear of the terminal. It is by far the easiest way to mp3gain files in bulk. The right-click option "Open in Terminal" in your file manager is your friend here. It will open a terminal in the folder where your mp3 files live, ready for you to enter the command.
Also the mp3 format itself is old and frozen. Time to move on to ogg vorbis or opus.
Try to get over that fear of the terminal. It is by far the easiest way to mp3gain files in bulk. The right-click option "Open in Terminal" in your file manager is your friend here. It will open a terminal in the folder where your mp3 files live, ready for you to enter the command.
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
Yes you're right, QTGain seems to have not done very much at all so I will use the terminal. Can I run it on a folder? Is it a permanent change or can I change it again? I rely on MP3 as I am not sure if my playout stuff uses ogg vorbis or opus but I can check that - I have thousands though so I don't really want to convert all of them but moving forward I can certainly get new things in that format.vanadium wrote: ⤴Fri Jul 23, 2021 9:33 am In summary: there is at this time no GUI for mp3gain. Also mp3gain by itself is abandonware. Yet, it is (again) available in the standard Ubuntu software repositories. The latest version dates from 2009.
Also the mp3 format itself is old and frozen. Time to move on to ogg vorbis or opus.
Try to get over that fear of the terminal. It is by far the easiest way to mp3gain files in bulk. The right-click option "Open in Terminal" in your file manager is your friend here. It will open a terminal in the folder where your mp3 files live, ready for you to enter the command.
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No, you certainly should not convert your existing mp3's.
You do not want that for albums: you do not want the relative volume be changed between tracks. For albums, you indeed want to do the correction only for the files of the album within a single folder, and with the "-a" option instead of the "-r" option. Then the command is simply
If the single folder contains unrelated music files, you can use the -r ("radio") option. This adjusts the volume of each file independently, whereas the -a ("album") option calculates the overall volume for all files together, and adjusts all files the same way.
[/quote]Is it a permanent change or can I change it again?[/quote]
To some extent the change can be reverted: with the "-r" option, mp3gain changes the actual audio data, but it includes an undo tag that indicates how to restore the frames to their initial volume. As long as the tag is not lost, the change can be undone. Without the "-r" option, i.e., using the system of replaygain tags, nothing happens to the actual audio data.
To undo, use the -u (undo) option, as in
You have been give the link in the webpage of Pjotr (link provided by Kadaitcha Man), but be careful. That is only suitable for a random collection of mp3 files. It will search the current folder *and* all subfolders, and apply individual correction to all mp3 files it finds.Can I run it on a folder?
You do not want that for albums: you do not want the relative volume be changed between tracks. For albums, you indeed want to do the correction only for the files of the album within a single folder, and with the "-a" option instead of the "-r" option. Then the command is simply
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mp3gain -a -k *.mp3
[/quote]Is it a permanent change or can I change it again?[/quote]
To some extent the change can be reverted: with the "-r" option, mp3gain changes the actual audio data, but it includes an undo tag that indicates how to restore the frames to their initial volume. As long as the tag is not lost, the change can be undone. Without the "-r" option, i.e., using the system of replaygain tags, nothing happens to the actual audio data.
To undo, use the -u (undo) option, as in
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mp3gain -u *.mp3
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Is it a permanent change or can I change it again?[/quote]vanadium wrote: ⤴Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:24 am No, you certainly should not convert your existing mp3's.
You have been give the link in the webpage of Pjotr (link provided by Kadaitcha Man), but be careful. That is only suitable for a random collection of mp3 files. It will search the current folder *and* all subfolders, and apply individual correction to all mp3 files it finds.Can I run it on a folder?
You do not want that for albums: you do not want the relative volume be changed between tracks. For albums, you indeed want to do the correction only for the files of the album within a single folder, and with the "-a" option instead of the "-r" option. Then the command is simply
If the single folder contains unrelated music files, you can use the -r ("radio") option. This adjusts the volume of each file independently, whereas the -a ("album") option calculates the overall volume for all files together, and adjusts all files the same way.Code: Select all
mp3gain -a -k *.mp3
To some extent the change can be reverted: with the "-r" option, mp3gain changes the actual audio data, but it includes an undo tag that indicates how to restore the frames to their initial volume. As long as the tag is not lost, the change can be undone. Without the "-r" option, i.e., using the system of replaygain tags, nothing happens to the actual audio data.
To undo, use the -u (undo) option, as in
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mp3gain -u *.mp3
Thanks for this.
Just so I am totally clear and don't mess it up, I make a safety copy of the files for my show anyway in a folder - if I open the folder containing show music in the terminal and then run
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mp3gain -r -k *.mp3
Thank you
Re: MP3Gain and GUI
See if there is a manual page by typing this in a terminal:
There may not be a manual page. If not try:
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man mp3gain
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mp3gain --help
Re: MP3Gain and GUI
Easymp3gain is available on the snap store: https://snapcraft.io/easymp3gain
I'm on 19.3, but works fine here. Might be worth a try.
I'm on 19.3, but works fine here. Might be worth a try.
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
Thank you both
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
Well I went through the man mp3gain page which was very useful and gave me some pointers to other resources but using the terminal to do what I want is beyond me at this point - I cannot work out the maths to just get tracks to play at -0.89. This is why I was reliant on a GUI. The reading in general was interesting as there were some things I did not know about.
As said above, it's something I will have to learn to live with as it's an old format, or jump back into Windows as and when needed, or timeshift back to 19.3 Mint (which may not be a bad thing as I am having some various issues with 20.2 in general).
Thanks again for everyone's help, appreciated.
Kyle
As said above, it's something I will have to learn to live with as it's an old format, or jump back into Windows as and when needed, or timeshift back to 19.3 Mint (which may not be a bad thing as I am having some various issues with 20.2 in general).
Thanks again for everyone's help, appreciated.
Kyle
Re: MP3Gain and GUI
Just follow the advise. Follow the command of Pjotr if you want to treat any mp3 file in the current folder and in subfolders, follow my command if you want to treat mp3 files in a single folder only. I wonder why you are now suddenly seeking to change the reference value. That can be done with options - mikeflan showed you how to display the help page.
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
As above I make a safety copy of the files I will be using in one folder, so using your command, I did follow mike's instruction hence I got the man page. I am confused about why you think I am "suddenly" changing the reference value? In the GUI, I used to be able to select the volume level which was usually the default of -0.89, I cannot see how I do this using the terminal without trying to working out the mathematical model and values? That is why is was easier for me to use a GUI as I suspect it was/is for a lot of people.vanadium wrote: ⤴Sat Jul 24, 2021 8:07 am Just follow the advise. Follow the command of Pjotr if you want to treat any mp3 file in the current folder and in subfolders, follow my command if you want to treat mp3 files in a single folder only. I wonder why you are now suddenly seeking to change the reference value. That can be done with options - mikeflan showed you how to display the help page.
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
I suspect you're quite right. I took a look at the onlinekylerickards wrote: ⤴Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:23 am ... was easier for me to use a GUI as I suspect it was/is for a lot of people.
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page for mp3gain. It's very sparse on detail so you need to know your audio. However I did find this page: http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/faq.php and read this:Code: Select all
Go to "Options -> Advanced..." and make sure the "Enable Maximizing features" option is checked
Set the "Target Normal Volume" to 92.0 dB
If you get desperate for a GUI, you could always install VirtualBox, via download or ppa (https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/virtu ... rg_contrib), not from the repositories because it's old, install Windows and make your modifications there.
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
Thanks Kadaitcha. I honestly wasn't expecting anyone to do any of the graft for me but the man pages just completely threw me when it started talking about integers and working out values etc. I'd never push any music to the limit (without clipping) as is the trend these days as I've always believed less is more, I know that a lot of the internet stations just crank the volume up but I've never done it and try to stick with the guidelines.Kadaitcha Man wrote: ⤴Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:39 amI suspect you're quite right. I took a look at the onlinekylerickards wrote: ⤴Sat Jul 24, 2021 9:23 am ... was easier for me to use a GUI as I suspect it was/is for a lot of people.man
page for mp3gain. It's very sparse on detail so you need to know your audio. However I did find this page: http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/faq.php and read this:
That clearly implies a GUI, so I looked a bit more and found this: http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/download.phpCode: Select all
Go to "Options -> Advanced..." and make sure the "Enable Maximizing features" option is checked Set the "Target Normal Volume" to 92.0 dB
If you get desperate for a GUI, you could always install VirtualBox, via download or ppa (https://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/virtu ... rg_contrib), not from the repositories because it's old, install Windows and make your modifications there.
The virtualmachine is a good idea, I am lucky in that I do still have my Windows set up as dual boot so could do it that way if needed however (as per another thread I have just made), this whole thing might be a bit redundant (sorry, although I always enjoy your advice and help!) as I have just timeshifted back to 19.3 about 30 mins ago for reasons I won't bore you with in this thread so I still have access to EasyMP3Gain at the moment. I think for what I am doing, radio stuff etc, even though 19.3 isn't a long term release I will have to stick with it as I know it works and it's reliable whereas I seem to be running into more problems than it's worth at the minute with 20.2.
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
You are probably the only one. Perhaps I'm slipping. Perhaps I should buy a lottery ticket.
Good luck
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Re: MP3Gain and GUI
Well by way of an update, well, not really an update I guess, I am still having to load my audio files into either my Windows set up or my 19.3 installation to level the soundfiles to ensure they are not super loud since most audio seems hell bent on having things at levels of 96 or higher... Madness.