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Root partition grows by 4 GB in 2 weeks Why ?

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Hello

- I empty the var/cache/apt/archives
- I added no application else than one kernel and a VPN (protonvpn)

What to do ?

So now I have this partition : 31.6 GB used 13.9 GB free 16.0 GB

It the second time I notice this, last month I have it too, but I restore the root by Timeshift every month
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Re: Root partition grows by 4 GB in 2 weeks Why ?

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Menard wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:24 am Hello

- I empty the var/cache/apt/archives
- I added no application else than one kernel and a VPN (protonvpn)

What to do ?

So now I have this partition : 31.6 GB used 13.9 GB free 16.0 GB

It the second time I notice this, last month I have it too, but I restore the root by Timeshift every month
How many Timeshift snapshots do you keep?
You can use the Disk Usage Analyzer tool to find the culprit(s)
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Menard wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:24 am ......., but I restore the root by Timeshift every month
WHY ????
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all41 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:53 am
How many Timeshift snapshots do you keep?
You can use the Disk Usage Analyzer tool to find the culprit(s)
My snapshots are not on the root partition, I use an external storage
I know this tool but as generally it warns us that it cannot see some memory place, I tend not tu use it ...
Anyway it doesn't see the root partition :!:
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MAlfare wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:58 am
Menard wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:24 am ......., but I restore the root by Timeshift every month
WHY ????
Because it restores a fresh installation that has only some hours used, and because NSA agents do this :wink:
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But then you have to go through all the last month's updates and upgrades again!

Sorry, but what you do seems pointless to me and I can see absolutely no good reason for doing it. Normally users restore only if something has gone very wrong and can not be more easily restored.
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ajgreeny wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:38 pm But then you have to go through all the last month's updates and upgrades again!
Sorry, but what you do seems pointless to me
You forgot, he is an NSA agent, and they don't make updates.
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Menard wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:13 pm
all41 wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 11:53 am
How many Timeshift snapshots do you keep?
You can use the Disk Usage Analyzer tool to find the culprit(s)
My snapshots are not on the root partition, I use an external storage
I know this tool but as generally it warns us that it cannot see some memory place, I tend not tu use it ...
Anyway it doesn't see the root partition :!:
How about your log file sizes? If there is a constantly logged error the logs can grow
rapidly.
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ajgreeny wrote: Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:38 pm But then you have to go through all the last month's updates and upgrades again!

Sorry, but what you do seems pointless to me and I can see absolutely no good reason for doing it. Normally users restore only if something has gone very wrong and can not be more easily restored.
Yes that's right, it takes me 2 to 3 hours to restore, upgrade one month (a second time) to re-install some applications and settings, and to back up the new version, but I began to do this when I had some issue with the shut down, issues that come with the time the OS is used and restoring fix it and now it seems to be less present, almost not present, and that is for me a and in a general way we can say that it prevents to accumulate some errors that may cause harm,damage , for example I m trying a VPN and so I prefer it not to let anything in root, even if I uninstall it, because it is not in the repository (though i have no reason to have doubts especially about this VPN)
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No wonder you have so many problems with your computer. You repeatedly re-introduce faults from snapshots of defective OS.
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cliffcoggin wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:01 am No wonder you have so many problems with your computer. You repeatedly re-introduce faults from snapshots of defective OS.
That's nonsense, it is the exact contrary
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Looks like your needlessly intricate way of handling snapshots is the cause of your problem. I recommend to re-start with a clean slate: do a clean fresh installation of Mint and then only use snapshots like they're meant to be used.
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Pjotr wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:56 am Looks like your needlessly intricate way of handling snapshots is the cause of your problem. I recommend to re-start with a clean slate: do a clean fresh installation of Mint and then only use snapshots like they're meant to be used.
Timeshift and snapshots are made for this, or this is useless

What I do is evidently, restarting with a clean state, far more clean than ever, than yours
or then if you are right it proves that Timeshift is not doeing what it is supposed to

And additionnally with the time that goes, my Linux is facing less and less issues, so much that i am exposing the less critical ones now

You are trying to explain that I should use a method that bring my OS to need to be hard shutdown everyday ...

And anyway I have not the time to resinstall, if I must reinstall now this is anyway windows that I ll install

I don't think that "intricate" is a correct expression to describe what I do , I only come back at the last good snapshot , this is what is advised with all OS
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So now, I ll try to find what these 4 GB are, but sure that a good thing should have been to check every day the memory place taken by root so that I can see if it is 4 GB in one time or step by step, and when and why

I found no many errors lines in the boot log

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sudo journalctl -b
nothing unusual
only this

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chrome[2235]: [2235:2235:0920/091811.223285:WARNING:chrome_content_verifier_delegate.cc(212)] Corruption detected in extension galpopeppgfimpgpdbbkhemhcjgghmhl installed at: /home/u3/.config/BraveSoftware/Brave-Brow>
and many lines about the firewall :shock: :shock: :shock: but it is with default settings (not sure, if the settings are in the home it is not)

I think one part of the explaination may be here, because new lines all the time, but 4 GB , no

var/log/journal takes only 300 MB :o
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Pjotr wrote: Mon Sep 20, 2021 4:56 am Looks like your needlessly intricate way of handling snapshots is the cause of your problem. I recommend to re-start with a clean slate: do a clean fresh installation of Mint and then only use snapshots like they're meant to be used.
I d be happy that u can explain me how Timeshift can bring Linux Mint to create a 4 GB useless root partition leak ?
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