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Journalctl needs sudo

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I feel useful to tell this because someone here, has told the contrary and that made me to wrong results

If you, for example, type "journalctl --list-boot" then you obtain not the list of the date of the boots and shutdown, but the list of the dates of the login logout of the session you are logged in, as evidence and this morning I had some clear difference time, startup 07:59:40 login 08:38:26
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Re: Journalctl needs sudo

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You sure about that? The output with or without sudo is the same.

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 -1 1aa602136ea14271ae98fb14169424d6 Tue 2022-05-17 11:26:03 WEST—Wed 2022-05-18 06:05:56 WEST
  0 0db7e4f459094d6083deaf1138a77465 Wed 2022-05-18 06:06:35 WEST—Wed 2022-05-18 07:55:03 WEST
7:55.03 is the time I ran the command because boot 0 hasn't been shutdown yet.

06:06:35 is the time that systemd started, which will always be a few seconds after the initial kernel init, which is why journalctl timestamps for the initial kernel loading before systemd starts are always the same and disagree with dmesg output. But systemd starts way before user login.
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Re: Journalctl needs sudo

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Yes I am sure because I first enter a no sudo account and typed the command that gave the date 08:20 for example, and then I logged out this session and logged in a sudo account and typed the command without sudo and I got 08:38:26 and then with sudo I got 07:59:40
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Re: Journalctl needs sudo

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u3@PC1:~$ journalctl --list-boot
Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system.
      Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages.
      Pass -q to turn off this notice.
-23 0af9ef5ab90b476eb7ff8b91aaf30b3d Wed 2022-05-04 20:57:16 CEST—Wed 2022-05-04 21:35:49 CEST
-22 4fdd7db80ea54ae78b0d14569fd07bb6 Thu 2022-05-05 11:13:35 CEST—Thu 2022-05-05 11:23:20 CEST
-21 2938afdf783e47aab8964d3a6effdf40 Thu 2022-05-05 13:18:13 CEST—Thu 2022-05-05 13:31:50 CEST
-20 f2b843cb7d6d4a2594384690c112a051 Sat 2022-05-07 08:02:00 CEST—Sat 2022-05-07 14:13:15 CEST
-19 ba33e95763ae433b843a084bfd3de052 Sat 2022-05-07 15:48:09 CEST—Sun 2022-05-08 00:36:55 CEST
-18 5d26ac887ff246deb5b85ef431ef690c Sun 2022-05-08 14:12:57 CEST—Sun 2022-05-08 14:21:52 CEST
-17 23ff59121bf84dd5b7b6cbe08e3e1f75 Sun 2022-05-08 14:23:36 CEST—Sun 2022-05-08 14:28:45 CEST
-16 c23784525e8c46b6b6ffac0f2faee9eb Sun 2022-05-08 14:41:50 CEST—Sun 2022-05-08 22:09:55 CEST
-15 89b55a1e26cc4b2e9a7613227ff74d09 Mon 2022-05-09 09:02:43 CEST—Mon 2022-05-09 12:35:32 CEST
-14 fd69168036084314bf472cf35d0080e4 Mon 2022-05-09 13:12:06 CEST—Mon 2022-05-09 21:27:19 CEST
-13 ba3ef3a8032f49439ee4dce0d4022a06 Tue 2022-05-10 08:38:08 CEST—Tue 2022-05-10 23:30:03 CEST
-12 8422267cb3b0484884f7a8007f05b603 Wed 2022-05-11 15:04:05 CEST—Thu 2022-05-12 00:08:42 CEST
-11 2925c1e0225d434ba415ea9f156f7a84 Thu 2022-05-12 07:45:21 CEST—Thu 2022-05-12 22:06:02 CEST
-10 bcda1cf731db4db6b602dd63fa73a992 Fri 2022-05-13 08:37:16 CEST—Fri 2022-05-13 20:59:18 CEST
 -9 c5b94597b97d4749b46345bbf0dc893a Fri 2022-05-13 22:01:25 CEST—Fri 2022-05-13 23:39:16 CEST
 -8 aac15de3685b4834864ac0c60edc9541 Sat 2022-05-14 10:42:57 CEST—Sat 2022-05-14 23:29:27 CEST
 -7 f73d6186a3dc408983b6075d2ad7fb95 Sun 2022-05-15 09:33:22 CEST—Sun 2022-05-15 16:24:15 CEST
 -6 6e49b3e5480348349932c73476234b85 Sun 2022-05-15 17:52:37 CEST—Sun 2022-05-15 18:59:54 CEST
 -5 23ac3ccb0b0647f5a37187a758574139 Sun 2022-05-15 19:10:23 CEST—Mon 2022-05-16 00:14:55 CEST
 -4 c2e79352e94a43cab4fa91148c946323 Mon 2022-05-16 07:03:14 CEST—Mon 2022-05-16 08:11:25 CEST
 -3 357428ddf6f9445494dd9eea989d0759 Mon 2022-05-16 11:09:02 CEST—Mon 2022-05-16 22:14:41 CEST
 -2 65f6ff9483b04bff88c1420c63f3cb50 Tue 2022-05-17 08:39:21 CEST—Tue 2022-05-17 17:56:59 CEST
 -1 5246c88c3fcf4ba38b4e3d4b0f27dfc9 Tue 2022-05-17 17:58:57 CEST—Wed 2022-05-18 00:39:56 CEST
  0 7b58ac84dc3f40b3a3be9a7872eec59e Wed 2022-05-18 08:38:26 CEST—Wed 2022-05-18 09:54:59 CEST
u3@PC1:~$ sudo journalctl --list-boot
[sudo] Mot de passe de u3 :                   
-36 3c069d2885fa46a6b98cd11eed6889c3 Sun 2022-04-10 08:11:58 CEST—Sun 2022-04-10 09:01:20 CEST
-35 ab53c0c835824d2c828da81a12af0074 Sun 2022-04-10 09:06:16 CEST—Sun 2022-04-10 09:06:53 CEST
-34 88c3a8b32f2f4ec7b84c6c77840b348b Sun 2022-04-10 09:07:49 CEST—Sun 2022-04-10 09:30:20 CEST
-33 4f624da481a84166811dcad781d87d73 Wed 2022-05-04 17:57:15 CEST—Wed 2022-05-04 18:06:30 CEST
-32 948e63c730504e4d8bb36b427c60d148 Wed 2022-05-04 18:33:17 CEST—Wed 2022-05-04 20:20:13 CEST
-31 0af9ef5ab90b476eb7ff8b91aaf30b3d Wed 2022-05-04 20:20:55 CEST—Wed 2022-05-04 21:35:51 CEST
-30 e2fc6a2465e04fffb8ca2d4b1ddba344 Wed 2022-05-04 21:43:52 CEST—Wed 2022-05-04 23:34:46 CEST
-29 4fdd7db80ea54ae78b0d14569fd07bb6 Thu 2022-05-05 11:12:41 CEST—Thu 2022-05-05 11:23:22 CEST
-28 2938afdf783e47aab8964d3a6effdf40 Thu 2022-05-05 12:16:09 CEST—Thu 2022-05-05 13:31:52 CEST
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-26 65e05728dbad4d96834bfb4bdcec339c Fri 2022-05-06 22:24:02 CEST—Sat 2022-05-07 01:03:29 CEST
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-24 ba33e95763ae433b843a084bfd3de052 Sat 2022-05-07 14:13:59 CEST—Sun 2022-05-08 00:36:58 CEST
-23 e7efb43b71294689a5bc204cdef7aa15 Sun 2022-05-08 08:37:42 CEST—Sun 2022-05-08 11:59:48 CEST
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-10 aac15de3685b4834864ac0c60edc9541 Sat 2022-05-14 10:41:26 CEST—Sat 2022-05-14 23:29:32 CEST
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 -7 6e49b3e5480348349932c73476234b85 Sun 2022-05-15 19:51:48 CEST—Sun 2022-05-15 18:59:57 CEST
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 -5 c2e79352e94a43cab4fa91148c946323 Mon 2022-05-16 07:02:26 CEST—Mon 2022-05-16 08:11:27 CEST
 -4 357428ddf6f9445494dd9eea989d0759 Mon 2022-05-16 08:12:07 CEST—Mon 2022-05-16 22:14:45 CEST
 -3 a5a115ef702b402bb92b42864b5cd278 Mon 2022-05-16 23:25:58 CEST—Mon 2022-05-16 23:37:30 CEST
 -2 65f6ff9483b04bff88c1420c63f3cb50 Tue 2022-05-17 08:35:49 CEST—Tue 2022-05-17 17:57:03 CEST
 -1 5246c88c3fcf4ba38b4e3d4b0f27dfc9 Tue 2022-05-17 17:57:42 CEST—Wed 2022-05-18 00:40:00 CEST
  0 7b58ac84dc3f40b3a3be9a7872eec59e Wed 2022-05-18 07:59:40 CEST—Wed 2022-05-18 09:55:32 CEST
u3@PC1:~$ 

Total transparency 8)

You can also see that some sessions are missing in the first command's result, because I didn't then logged in with this account (u3) but with the other (u2)

NB : with timer, between grub and the login screen, I measure 47"
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Re: Journalctl needs sudo

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Hint: You are currently not seeing messages from other users and the system.
      Users in groups 'adm', 'systemd-journal' can see all messages.
      Pass -q to turn off this notice.
Well that's pretty clear...never seen that before, but never considered running administrative commands from a non administrative account either.

So you don't need sudo if your user is in group adm. The primary account created during installation is always in this group in Mint.

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steve@steve-Inspiron-5580:~$ groups
steve adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare helen
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