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question about codecs packaged with mint

Postby iamclueless » Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:24 am

one of the things i initially liked about Linux Mint was it was out of the box easier to set up than Ubuntu... detected, mounted and dual-booted the WindowsXP hard drive, and the codecs where included - allowing me to play almost everything ive thrown at it.

my question now is: What codecs are actually included with mint and what does each one do? is there a list somewhere?

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Re: question about codecs packaged with mint

Postby CavalierBob » Sun Jul 27, 2008 12:40 pm

The W32codecs and Gstreamer handle most, if not all, of the video and audio codecs:

http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/codecs-status.html

http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/docume ... ugins.html

Remember, depending where you are located in the world it may not be legal to use some of these codecs. :wink: In that case, you should download the Lite version of Mint which has removed the offending files.

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Re: question about codecs packaged with mint

Postby iamclueless » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:37 pm

is there a package list of mint vs mint lite???

i would like to know which packages are packed with mint and what each package is actually for.

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Re: question about codecs packaged with mint

Postby iamclueless » Sun Jul 27, 2008 4:38 pm

oops ill be specific

the packages in mint that are not in mint lite...

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Re: question about codecs packaged with mint

Postby CavalierBob » Mon Jul 28, 2008 11:46 am

Well, this FAQ contains about the best (and only) explanation of why the Light edition and what is not in it:

http://www.linuxmint.com/faq.php

And anything not installed in the Light edition by default can be added back in by the end user.

To be perfectly frank, and meaning no offense, I am trying to understand why it is so important to know what each and every bloody codec does? As I am sure you know, each one decodes a given audio/video file format. If you looked at the links for W32codecs & Gstreamer I shared, so many of the codecs listed are corner cases that most average users (me for sure, perhaps you?) will never see nor use in our lifetimes.

Is there a particular use case you need? Have you run across a audio/video file you have that Mint cannot play?
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Re: question about codecs packaged with mint

Postby iamclueless » Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:46 am

linux for me has been about having choices or at least the option of changing what is prepackaged with a system...

I know Mint comes with the codecs pre-packaged.. but do i necessarily want ALL the codecs???? If i was to start say from Mint-lite... i am aware that i could just grab the metapackage for gstreamer or xine and w32codecs and libdvdcss2... that would more than likely allow me to play anyhing i want. But again do i need all of it???? On old computers with no DVD drives or CD-RW or tiny hard drives these things matter. Why have codecs you dont need (or cant use).

if you do a Debian or Ubuntu (maybe a Mint one will come in the future) base install - you dont have these multimedia packages installed... To simply drop a codec metapackage that gives you everything defeats the purpose of a minimal install where you control what goes into your system.

Mint has been good in that it has allowed me to play 99% of media formats without doing anything to it. id like to see why...

I could dpkg -l and go through every package... but i know I WILL miss a few things.

Hence i am here asking if there is a list... hopefully someone from the development team can help out.

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Re: question about codecs packaged with mint

Postby iamclueless » Tue Jul 29, 2008 12:28 pm

ok let me be exact...i dont want to be misunderstood

its not necessarily each and every codec....its more the packages im concerned about


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