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Playing videos

Postby beacon » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:46 am

I recently had to re-install Linux Mint 18.2 and more recently updated to 18.3. I have never before had problems of this nature, but playing videos is a hit-or-miss event. Sometimes when I tick on a video embedded in a newspaper there is no difficulty, and at other times I get a message, not always the same, but similar to the one in my attached screenshot. The same is true when I go to a particular site using videos, e.g., do-it-yourself help. I have followed so many bits of advice that I may have made things even worse, but nothing helps, and I have checked the items that people in forums have suggested. I'll be grateful for any advice and wonder why I have only recently had this problem.

By the way, I have used Firefox, Chrome and Midori, all with the same results.
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Re: Playing videos

Postby thx-1138 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:27 am

...is mint-meta-codecs installed? You can check that either from Software Manager, or from Synaptic, or you can also run sudo apt-get install mint-meta-codecs to make sure it's installed.

I don't know about specifically for Midori and/or Chrome, but on Firefox, Tools - Add-ons Manager - Plugins, are they activated?

but playing videos is a hit-or-miss event

Nowadays most sites require html5 to play videos (most modern browsers support / do that by default, so no worries there).
However quite a few sites, still require Adobe Flash (older technology to speak off) -> at least for Chrome / Firefox, this gets to become enabled by installing mint-meta-codecs...

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Re: Playing videos

Postby karlchen » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:49 am

Hi, beacon.

I tried to visit the independent.co.uk webpage, the complete URL of which is visible in your screenshot. - Would have been a very kind act to post the URL as a clickable link as well so we can test more easily. :wink:

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/katie-hopkins-daily-mail-why-did-she-end-her-contract-a8079816.html

Anyway. Palemoon and the independent.co.uk webpage do not seem to like each other very much. As soon as I entered the "Voices" sub-page, my Palemoon got extremely laggy and unrepsonsive.
Gnome-System-Monitor revealed that 1 CPU cre had been eaten up completely.
This CPU core returned to normal load only after I had managed to close the "Voices" page again.

My personal suspicion is that the independent.co.uk webpages are compiled in a horrible way. The term "bloatware" comes to my mind.
So the intermittent problems might be caused more by the webpages themselves where you experience problems playing their videos than by your OS or your browser.

But before giving this as my final (personal) verdict, I will give Firefox 57.0.1 a chance. Let us see how it will behave.

Regards,
Karl
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In the meantime, here are my system specs, just to give a hint that this is not a poorly equipped lowend netbook from the previous decade. :wink:

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~$ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: computer Kernel: 4.4.0-103-generic x86_64 bits: 64 gcc: 4.8.4
           Desktop: Unity 7.2.6 (Gtk 3.10.8-0ubuntu1.6) Distro: Ubuntu 14.04.5 LTS
Machine:   Device: laptop System: Dell product: Latitude E5470 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Dell model: 0P88J9 v: A00 serial: N/A UEFI [Legacy]: Dell v: 1.9.4 date: 08/26/2016
Battery    BAT0: charge: 34.4 Wh 57.1% condition: 60.2/62.0 Wh (97%)
           model: Samsung SDI DELL TXF9M6A status: Discharging
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i5-6200U (-HT-MCP-) arch: Skylake rev.3 cache: 3072 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 9600
           clock speeds: max: 2800 MHz 1: 499 MHz 2: 499 MHz 3: 499 MHz 4: 499 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Sky Lake Integrated Graphics bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@60.0hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 520 (Skylake GT2)
           version: 3.3 Mesa 11.2.0 Direct Render: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel Device 9d70 driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 Sound: ALSA v: k4.4.0-103-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel Ethernet Connection I219-LM driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k bus-ID: 00:1f.6
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 128.0GB (44.3% used)
           ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 model: N/A size: 127.9GB
           ID-2: /dev/sda model: SanDisk_X400_M.2 size: 128.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 30G used: 9.6G (35%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/mmcblk0p2
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 5.37GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/mmcblk0p3
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 44.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 228 Uptime: 49 min Memory: 948.1/3624.1MB Init: Upstart runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.4
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.111) inxi: 2.3.45
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Re: Playing videos

Postby karlchen » Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:05 am

Hi, beacon.

I do not know whether you have followed thx-1138's advice to make sure that mint-meta-codecs are present on your Linux Mint 18.3.
I do not know whether they will be needed or not to view the videos on independent.co.uk.

In my case, it simply looks like PaleMoon 27.6.2 has lost this round and Firefox 57.0.1 has clearly won.
The pages are bloated.
Yet, This did not stop Firefox 57.0.1 from displaying any imbedded video properly, which I have selected pretty randomly.

Perhaps the best starting point for troubleshooting your system is an

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inxi -Fxz
report, created on your Linux Mint 18.3 system, which may or may not give a hint on potential problems with the video driver in use.

It is also imaginable that the "video playing" problem is related or caused by the other more severe problem which you had reported here: Wireless connection on Mint 18.3

Best regards,
Karl
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Re: Playing videos

Postby trytip » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:07 pm

my chrome and palemoon (both the very latest) play it but only after going through a lot of blocking of scripts. i have heavy privacy tweaks on both browsers and as you can see some fonts in palemoon is blocked but only because i do not allow pages to use their own fonts. using my ARCH right now but in comparison the pages may load if you delete browsing history and cookies (you must restart browser browser after deleting history). THIS site is under severe third party adtracking and load scripts.

ps: in chrome and chromium based browsers like slimjet there are cookies that DO NOT GET REMOVED if you sign in to many sites and need to be removed manually even if you delete everything go to chrome://settings/siteData and remove all/restart browser

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my mint mate 17.3 with the same browsers work the same exact way after checking them
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Re: Playing videos

Postby beacon » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:01 am

Thanks for the replies. And to Karl I express my appreciation for help not only on this, but on several topics. The answer to various queries is that I have followed up on them. Mint-medic-codecs are installed and plug-ins are enabled. (I apologise for not sending the URL of the Independent, but I thought that was irrelevant. The issue affects every site I visit and not just that of the Independent, and it doesn't matter what browser I try.)

I'm not certain that I understand the reply by trytip, but I have the systems set to delete cookies and history every time I leave a browser.

I appreciate your help.

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Re: Playing videos

Postby karlchen » Sun Dec 10, 2017 6:49 am

karlchen wrote:[...] Perhaps the best starting point for troubleshooting your system is an

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inxi -Fxz
report, created on your Linux Mint 18.3 system, which may or may not give a hint on potential problems with the video driver in use. [...]

The inxi report can be found in the "Wireless problem" thread >> here <<. Copied over here for convience.

beacon wrote:The information from inxi -Fxz:

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Kernel: 4.10.0-42-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.6 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
           Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   Mobo: Gigabyte model: GA-MA78LMT-US2H v: x.x
           Bios: Award v: F10 date: 03/10/2011
CPU:       Triple core AMD Athlon II X3 455 (-MCP-) cache: 1536 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm) bmips: 19888
           clock speeds: max: 3300 MHz 1: 2100 MHz 2: 2600 MHz 3: 800 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS780L [Radeon 3000]
           bus-ID: 01:05.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780 (DRM 2.49.0 / 4.10.0-42-generic, LLVM 4.0.0)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.0.7 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS780 HDMI Audio [Radeon (HD) 3000 Series]
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:05.1
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.10.0-42-generic
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: de00 bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 240.1GB (10.0% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 240.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 213G used: 16G (8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.05GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.1C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 188 Uptime: 1:16 Memory: 1091.4/7474.1MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35
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