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new card killed hdmi audio

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yeah, i know. its an audio issue. but its caused by the video card. and the monitor. sigh.

gday. first post. like everyone, because of issues. ive chased through other posts with no reward...

old mobo, nothing special. onboard HDMI output doesnt output. was running a radeon GPU from a mac, obviously no acceleration...

plugged into the monitor, it was fine for general use. audio was fine, except... every now and then, it would start "echoing". really bad distortion... easily fixed by unplugging hdmi lead. might not do it for a week, might do it every five seconds... random.

right. onto the new card. msi gt1030.

without the drivers, no acceleration... its fine. hdmi outputting fine.

when i did install the drivers... im not going into detail, but it took two weeks to unbrick the PC. it wouldnt even boot into bios until pulling EVERYTHING off mobo and slowly powering up until it beeped again... not sure. whatever. got it fired up eventually.

so, drivers installed and bricking sorted... no audio on hdmi. been through a few of the other solutions regarding ALSA, and PULSEAUDIO... meh. nothing fixing it. it doesnt appear to be related to that at all, because...

according to the devices, the display when its plugged in simply doesnt register as an audio device. control panel thingy just says device unplugged. i havent tried it on any other display.

so im left with using an external amp on the audio out, and THAT has issues... random crackle, pop, fizz, and bang, ive got no audio. sometimes its fine for a month. this morning its done it three times. the only way to fix it so far has been to unplug the machine and leave it for ten minutes. in this issue, im sort of suspecting its actually the mobo at fault... it has the appearance of bad capacitors in the audio line somewhere... it might very well be im chasing geese and a new mobo is the real solution...

anyway... it really would be nice to figure out why this monitor is refusing to play ball and be an audio device when the drivers are installed... again, rollback to the basic, no acceleration driver and its fine. ive tried all the versions of the driver (the rollback from the most recent to the oldest caused the bricking, btw) with no luck.


ummmm... is this how i do it?

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System:    Kernel: 5.15.0-41-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A Desktop: Cinnamon 5.2.7 
           wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 20.3 Una base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo:
notice anything? Gigabyte model: B75M-D3H serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends v: F15 
           date: 10/23/2013 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-2600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Sandy Bridge 
           rev: 7 
notice anything?L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 54278 
           Speed: 2273 MHz min/max: 1600/3800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2430 2: 2180 3: 1596 
           4: 2494 5: 1752 6: 2560 7: 2268 8: 2031 
Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GP108 [GeForce GT 1030] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia 
           v: 515.48.07 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1d01 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: nvidia resolution: 1360x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 515.48.07 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1e20 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP108 High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0fb8 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.15.0-41-generic 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Huawei E353/E3131 type: USB driver: cdc_ether bus ID: 1-1.4:6 
           chip ID: 12d1:14db 
           IF: enx0c5b8f279a64 state: unknown speed: 150 Mbps duplex: half mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 92.35 GiB (15.5%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS547564A9E384 size: 596.17 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s 
           serial: <filter> 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 585.25 GiB used: 92.35 GiB (15.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
USB:       Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
           Hub: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 
           chip ID: 8087:0024 
           Device-1: 1-1.1:3 info: Alcor Micro AU6477 Card Reader Controller 
           type: Mass Storage,HID driver: hid-generic,usb-storage,usbhid rev: 2.0 
           chip ID: 058f:6364 
           Device-2: 1-1.3:4 info: HP type: Keyboard,Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 1.1 
           chip ID: 03f0:3441 
           Device-3: 1-1.4:6 info: Huawei E353/E3131 type: Ethernet Network,CDC-Data 
           driver: cdc_ether rev: 2.1 chip ID: 12d1:14db 
           Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
           Hub: 2-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 
           chip ID: 8087:0024 
           Hub: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
           Hub: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0003 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 27.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 25 C 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 35% 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/additional-repositories.list 
           1: deb http: //dl.openfoam.org/ubuntu focal main
           2: deb http: //dl.openfoam.org/ubuntu focal dev
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //download.docker.com/linux/debian bullseye stable
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list 
           1: deb http: //packages.linuxmint.com una main upstream import backport #id:linuxmint_main
           2: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal main restricted universe multiverse
           3: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
           4: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports main restricted universe multiverse
           5: deb http: //security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
           6: deb http: //archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ focal partner
Info:      Processes: 260 Uptime: 4m Memory: 15.57 GiB used: 1.12 GiB (7.2%) Init: systemd v: 245 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.4.0 alt: 9 Client: Unknown python3.8 client inxi: 3.0.38 
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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headsmess wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:43 pm yeah, i know. its an audio issue. but its caused by the video card. and the monitor. sigh.
Welcome to the forum, headsmess.

I know you saw a change when you changed the video card/monitor, but the graphics drivers do not handle sound in Linux Mint. The sound drivers do.

Audio: Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1e20
Device-2: NVIDIA GP108 High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0fb8
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.15.0-41-generic

The snd_hda_intel drivers handle sound for Intel, AMD, and Nvidia hardware. Did you try any of the links in the Tips for Troubleshooting Sound Issues topic?
headsmess wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:43 pmaccording to the devices, the display when its plugged in simply doesnt register as an audio device. control panel thingy just says device unplugged. i havent tried it on any other display.
May we please have some clarification on this.
What are "the devices" in "according to the devices"?
What display does not register an audio device? ALSA? PulseAudio? the Sound app?
headsmess wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:43 pmso im left with using an external amp on the audio out, and THAT has issues... random crackle, pop, fizz, and bang, ive got no audio. sometimes its fine for a month. this morning its done it three times. the only way to fix it so far has been to unplug the machine and leave it for ten minutes. in this issue, im sort of suspecting its actually the mobo at fault...
Or something is overheating.
headsmess wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:43 pm rollback to the basic, no acceleration driver and its fine.
How are you doing this "roll back"?

The "acceleration driver" is not separate from the graphics driver. Normally, one is either running with the graphics drivers loaded or one is running in software rendering mode with no graphics driver loaded.
headsmess wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2022 7:43 pmummmm... is this how i do it?
You were close. Displaying terminal output in a post has a graphic on using code tags.

By the way, a computer with a 2nd-gen Intel CPU can use the 5.4 LTS kernel that comes with LM20.3. I would not expect you to see any advantage to using the 5.15 kernel. In fact, it's possible a kernel difference might be contributing to some of the issues you have had.
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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yay! a response! and possible leads!
right, any random order...

"roll back to basic"... um. nouveu i think? administration> driver manager>xserver.org blah blah. no acceleration. generic driver. no issue other than the random lapse into reverb on the radeon. obviously pathetic graphics...
currently on nvidia525 as recommended, if i roll directly back to 390 i will brick, if i go nouveau>390 its fine... but no audio still.

devices. sigh... how did i get there?

thinking of two things. preferences>display> unknown. with nouveau it was listing it as known. okano something POS.
um... found it! all applications>pulseaudiocontrol>output devices> gp108 high definition audio controller digital stereo(hdmi) port: hdmi/displayport(unplugged)

doesnt matter if i hit mute or not. it says its unplugged.

not about to rollback right now, but pretty sure it was all there and happy on nouveau.

kernel..... now my eyes are glazing. i got no idea why its got whatever kernel its got? it just does?


andddd... because its come across as graphics card/driver isssue, ive been chasing that avenue rather than anything directly audio related... went through some of the tips, recall pavucontrol(?) from somewhere... yes and no? nothing has worked so yeah...

well... inxi -Fxz

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System:
  Kernel: 5.15.0-41-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
  Desktop: Cinnamon 5.2.7 Distro: Linux Mint 20.3 Una 
  base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: B75M-D3H serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends 
  v: F15 date: 10/23/2013 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-2600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 54279 
  Speed: 1600 MHz min/max: 1600/3800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1630 2: 1596 
  3: 1689 4: 1602 5: 1617 6: 1615 7: 1601 8: 1599 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP108 [GeForce GT 1030] vendor: Micro-Star MSI 
  driver: nvidia v: 525.60.11 bus ID: 01:00.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: nvidia 
  resolution: 1360x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030/PCIe/SSE2 
  v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 525.60.11 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP108 High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.15.0-41-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 03:00.0 
  IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Huawei E353/E3131 type: USB driver: cdc_ether bus ID: 1-1.4:6 
  IF: enx0c5b8f279a64 state: unknown speed: 150 Mbps duplex: half 
  mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 95.45 GiB (16.0%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS547564A9E384 size: 596.17 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 585.25 GiB used: 95.45 GiB (16.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 29.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 33 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 35% 
Info:
  Processes: 255 Uptime: 36m Memory: 15.57 GiB used: 2.46 GiB (15.8%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.4.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 
  inxi: 3.0.38 
aplay -l

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**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
aaaaand... pacmd list-sinks

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2 sink(s) available.
  * index: 0
	name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_00_1b.0.analog-stereo>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	flags: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY DYNAMIC_LATENCY
	state: IDLE
	suspend cause: (none)
	priority: 9039
	volume: front-left: 31494 /  48% / -19.10 dB,   front-right: 31494 /  48% / -19.10 dB
	        balance 0.00
	base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	volume steps: 65537
	muted: no
	current latency: 39.72 ms
	max request: 6 KiB
	max rewind: 6 KiB
	monitor source: 0
	sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
	channel map: front-left,front-right
	             Stereo
	used by: 0
	linked by: 1
	configured latency: 40.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 2000.00 ms
	card: 1 <alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0>
	module: 8
	properties:
		alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
		device.api = "alsa"
		device.class = "sound"
		alsa.class = "generic"
		alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
		alsa.name = "ALC887-VD Analog"
		alsa.id = "ALC887-VD Analog"
		alsa.subdevice = "0"
		alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
		alsa.device = "0"
		alsa.card = "0"
		alsa.card_name = "HDA Intel PCH"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7110000 irq 29"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:00:1b.0"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/sound/card0"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "8086"
		device.vendor.name = "Intel Corporation"
		device.product.id = "1e20"
		device.product.name = "7 Series/C216 Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller"
		device.form_factor = "internal"
		device.string = "front:0"
		device.buffering.buffer_size = "352800"
		device.buffering.fragment_size = "176400"
		device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
		device.profile.name = "analog-stereo"
		device.profile.description = "Analogue Stereo"
		device.description = "Built-in Audio Analogue Stereo"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	ports:
		analog-output-lineout: Line Out (priority 9000, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"
	active port: <analog-output-lineout>
    index: 2
	name: <alsa_output.pci-0000_01_00.1.hdmi-stereo>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	flags: HARDWARE DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY DYNAMIC_LATENCY
	state: IDLE
	suspend cause: (none)
	priority: 9030
	volume: front-left: 39981 /  61% / -12.88 dB,   front-right: 39981 /  61% / -12.88 dB
	        balance 0.00
	base volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	volume steps: 65537
	muted: no
	current latency: 39.81 ms
	max request: 6 KiB
	max rewind: 6 KiB
	monitor source: 2
	sample spec: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
	channel map: front-left,front-right
	             Stereo
	used by: 0
	linked by: 1
	configured latency: 40.00 ms; range is 0.50 .. 1999.82 ms
	card: 0 <alsa_card.pci-0000_01_00.1>
	module: 7
	properties:
		alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
		device.api = "alsa"
		device.class = "sound"
		alsa.class = "generic"
		alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
		alsa.name = "HDMI 0"
		alsa.id = "HDMI 0"
		alsa.subdevice = "0"
		alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
		alsa.device = "3"
		alsa.card = "1"
		alsa.card_name = "HDA NVidia"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HDA NVidia at 0xf7080000 irq 17"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:01:00.1"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.1/sound/card1"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "10de"
		device.vendor.name = "NVIDIA Corporation"
		device.product.id = "0fb8"
		device.product.name = "GP108 High Definition Audio Controller"
		device.string = "hdmi:1"
		device.buffering.buffer_size = "352768"
		device.buffering.fragment_size = "176384"
		device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
		device.profile.name = "hdmi-stereo"
		device.profile.description = "Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
		device.description = "GP108 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	ports:
		hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority 5900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
	active port: <hdmi-output-0>
snap crackle pop... think im going to rename my PC as ricebubbles...
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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just running an update on that kernel now. see what happens.
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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headsmess wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:06 pm"roll back to basic"... um. nouveu i think? administration> driver manager>xserver.org blah blah. no acceleration. generic driver. no issue other than the random lapse into reverb on the radeon. obviously pathetic graphics...
There are no radeon graphics when you do that so I'm not sure why you are mentioning radeon. In that mode you are either using nouveau or software rendering.
headsmess wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:06 pmcurrently on nvidia525 as recommended, if i roll directly back to 390 i will brick, if i go nouveau>390 its fine... but no audio still.
The Nvidia-525 is fine.
headsmess wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 10:06 pmthinking of two things. preferences>display> unknown. with nouveau it was listing it as known. okano something POS.
An "unknown" display in the Display app is a problem. It means the EDID info from the monitor is either corrupted or is not being properly passed from the monitor through the cable to the computer. That could cause audio issues because the EDID can also have an audio component to it.

1) Is it still showing as unknown?
2) What type of cable connection are you using from the computer to the monitor?
3) Is there a different port on the GPU you could try?
4) What is the output of xrandr run in a terminal?
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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i think its time i got some new stuff...

ok, did a kernel upgrade. nothing. last thing to try on tips list was the bios kick... turn off audio controller. easy.
not.
so, couldnt get into bios. hit del or fkeys, would beep, then blank screen with cursor, and freeze. hmmm.
power down, restart, boot up fine. restart, try bios, beep... freeze.
i did manage to get grub with f8 once, and that showed kernel 515,540-135 and 540-26? all with recovery option. nothing much changed when i booted up with 5.4-135 audio wise. power down, back to trying for bios and freezing screens.

left it a while frozen to think things over and its obviously upset.

power down, restart... and straight to blank screen and freeze.

remove video card.
(btw, when i refer to radeon, its another card from a mac that works on generic drivers, gives me a display with audio from power up, but yes, has no real drivers to kick it into life, being mac. i thought throwing in an msi would be easy... ha!)

so, no video card, back on vga, and i can enter bios. cool. disable audio, boot up.

now... check system. back on kernel 515. i think?
this is current with audio re-enabled. my timelines getting scrambled...

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System:    Kernel: 5.15.0-56-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A Desktop: Cinnamon 5.2.7 
           wm: muffin dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 20.3 Una base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: Gigabyte model: B75M-D3H serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends v: F15 
           date: 10/23/2013 
CPU:       Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-2600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Sandy Bridge 
           rev: 7 L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
           flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 54277 
           Speed: 2724 MHz min/max: 1600/3800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3581 2: 3563 3: 3586 
           4: 3634 5: 3611 6: 3696 7: 3643 8: 3662 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0102 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           alternate: nvidia resolution: 1360x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1e20 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.15.0-56-generic 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
           IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
           Device-2: Huawei E353/E3131 type: USB driver: cdc_ether bus ID: 1-1.4:4 
           chip ID: 12d1:14db 
           IF: enx0c5b8f279a64 state: unknown speed: 150 Mbps duplex: half mac: <filter> 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 96.44 GiB (16.2%) 
           ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS547564A9E384 size: 596.17 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s 
           serial: <filter> 
Partition: ID-1: / size: 585.25 GiB used: 96.44 GiB (16.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
USB:       Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
           Hub: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 
           chip ID: 8087:0024 
           Device-1: 1-1.1:3 info: Alcor Micro AU6477 Card Reader Controller 
           type: Mass Storage,HID driver: hid-generic,usb-storage,usbhid rev: 2.0 
           chip ID: 058f:6364 
           Device-2: 1-1.4:4 info: Huawei E353/E3131 type: Ethernet Network,CDC-Data 
           driver: cdc_ether rev: 2.1 chip ID: 12d1:14db 
           Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
           Hub: 2-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 
           chip ID: 8087:0024 
           Hub: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
           Device-3: 3-3:2 info: HP HP Wireless Keyboard and Mouse Combo type: Keyboard,Mouse 
           driver: hid-generic,usbhid rev: 1.1 chip ID: 03f0:3441 
           Hub: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0 chip ID: 1d6b:0003 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 23.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/additional-repositories.list 
           1: deb http: //dl.openfoam.org/ubuntu focal main
           2: deb http: //dl.openfoam.org/ubuntu focal dev
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list 
           1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //download.docker.com/linux/debian bullseye stable
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list 
           1: deb http: //packages.linuxmint.com una main upstream import backport #id:linuxmint_main
           2: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal main restricted universe multiverse
           3: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
           4: deb http: //archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports main restricted universe multiverse
           5: deb http: //security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
           6: deb http: //archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ focal partner
Info:      Processes: 221 Uptime: 5m Memory: 15.44 GiB used: 692.7 MiB (4.4%) Init: systemd v: 245 
           runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.4.0 alt: 9 Client: Unknown python3.8 client inxi: 3.0.38 
at some point it came up with 5.4... i do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, the first time it did as it was told, about twenty minutes of chewing stuff, now it just goes "cool, nothing to upgrade here"...

then power down, re-enable audio, and here i am... with the amp on lineout popping at me, no little audio symbol in the toolbar, trying to open pulseaudiocontrol just caused an internal error, system report says audio device is enabled, and yeah...

found the hdmi on the mobo does work, (still no audio, nothings being detected as an output at all currently) it just doesnt work on boot. havent tried waiting the full boot cycle, assumed it just didnt work... starting on vga, plug in hdmi, unplug vga, change display source... and i have hdmi on the mobo.
it also detects the display, but not correctly? gkk 7"...

pulseaudio -k just gave me "failed to kill daemon: no such process"...

weeee!

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 xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1360 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
VGA-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-2 connected primary 1360x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 90mm
   1920x1080     60.00 +  50.00    59.94    30.00    25.00    24.00    29.97    23.98  
   1920x1080i    60.00    50.00    59.94  
   1680x1050     59.88  
   1280x1024     75.02    60.02  
   1440x900      59.90  
   1280x960      60.00  
   1360x768      60.02* 
   1280x800      59.91  
   1152x864      75.00  
   1280x720      60.00    50.00    59.94  
   1024x768      75.03    60.00  
   832x624       74.55  
   800x600       72.19    75.00    60.32  
   720x576       50.00  
   720x480       60.00    59.94  
   640x480       75.00    72.81    66.67    60.00    59.94  
   720x400       70.08  
DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
hdmi on mobo, video card removed. im gunna power down and have a go again in the morn...

i will also try back on nouveau, as im pretty sure that does detect the display correctly, regardless of the card i poke in.
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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first thing in the morning, powered up. same deal. no sound icon in toolbar. silence. hdmi port on mobo does work, just doesnt detect during post. never knew that.

my gut tells me to give up, im chasing geese, get a new mobo.
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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You do not want your computer set for "fast-boot" in BIOS. Make sure that is not enabled.
headsmess wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:25 am this is current with audio re-enabled. my timelines getting scrambled...
This is you running from the onboard graphics and no external GPU.

Graphics:
Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0102
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
alternate: nvidia resolution: 1360x768~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6
compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes

It also appears you created a custom xorg.conf file. You can verify you did that by running

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cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
If that file exists, remove it by runing

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sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
headsmess wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:25 am found the hdmi on the mobo does work, (still no audio, nothings being detected as an output at all currently) it just doesnt work on boot. havent tried waiting the full boot cycle, assumed it just didnt work... starting on vga, plug in hdmi, unplug vga, change display source... and i have hdmi on the mobo.
it also detects the display, but not correctly? gkk 7"...
I'm sorry, but I have no idea what you are attempting to explain here.

Does the xrandr output you posted go with the inxi output where you were running from the onboard Intel graphics?

When reading xrandr output, *= current resolution and += preferred resolution.

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 xrandr
HDMI-2 connected primary 1360x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 160mm x 90mm
   1920x1080     60.00 +  50.00    59.94    30.00    25.00    24.00    29.97    23.98  
   1360x768      60.02* 
headsmess wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:14 pmhdmi port on mobo does work, just doesnt detect during post. never knew that.
It doesn't detect during post? POST happens before the operating system is ever loaded. Make sure the BIOS is not set for "fast startup".
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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lol, this is getting messy.

ok, so the onboard hdmi does work, i just assumed it doesnt as everytime ive powered up, i get a "no input" on the screen. so always have gone back to vga. fiddling around proved that it DOES work. hope that sorts that out. and i did wait the full cycle yesterday, it does eventually turn on once the OS is loaded. therefore it just doesnt detect until then. i learnt something i guess.

as for fast boot... 100% sure its off. i believe that just skips all the options to access bios/grub etc? if so, yes, its off, i hate not being able to get into bios when i want. check anyway when i power down.

the only thing i have changed is the audio controller as per the tips page... turn off audio controller in bios, then re-enable.

and thats left me with no sound icon at all. system reports audio card being there... trying to open pavucontrol causes an internal error, and "sound" has no device listed as available. (repeated a few times... it aint getting the hint)

any pulse commands in terminal now give "Failed to kill daemon: No such process"

pacmd list-sinks | grep -e 'name:' -e 'index:'
No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon.


and NOW... ive done some things in the last half hour, i may have removed pulse altogether now... so ima gunna shutup and go reboot before i get any more confusing. just tried journalctl --user -xe and got a totally different response, no mention of pulse having failed to start (exit-end error?)

the old case of try twenty things but really only remember or mention five... im sorry!

yes, i had this...

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$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
# nvidia-settings: X configuration file generated by nvidia-settings
# nvidia-settings:  version 470.57.01


Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Layout0"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    Option         "Xinerama" "0"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load           "dbe"
    Load           "extmod"
    Load           "type1"
    Load           "freetype"
    Load           "glx"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Mouse0"
    Driver         "mouse"
    Option         "Protocol" "auto"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
    Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
    Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"

    # generated from default
    Identifier     "Keyboard0"
    Driver         "kbd"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

    # HorizSync source: builtin, VertRefresh source: builtin
    Identifier     "Monitor0"
    VendorName     "Unknown"
    ModelName      "DFP-1"
    HorizSync       28.0 - 55.0
    VertRefresh     43.0 - 72.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Device0"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
    BoardName      "NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030"
EndSection

Section "Screen"

# Removed Option "metamodes" "1368x768 +0+0"
    Identifier     "Screen0"
    Device         "Device0"
    Monitor        "Monitor0"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "Stereo" "0"
    Option         "nvidiaXineramaInfoOrder" "DFP-1"
    Option         "metamodes" "1600x900 +0+0; 1360x768 +0+0"
    Option         "SLI" "Off"
    Option         "MultiGPU" "Off"
    Option         "BaseMosaic" "off"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
    EndSubSection
EndSection
exterminated...
next!

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xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1360 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
VGA-1 connected primary 1360x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 1210mm x 680mm
   1360x768      60.02* 
   1280x800      59.81  
   1024x768      60.00  
   800x600       72.19    60.32  
   640x480       59.94  
   720x400       70.08  
HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
current inxifizz... back to 5.15. seems i can select on post, 5.15 is default...

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System:
  Kernel: 5.15.0-56-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
  Desktop: Cinnamon 5.2.7 Distro: Linux Mint 20.3 Una 
  base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: B75M-D3H serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends 
  v: F15 date: 10/23/2013 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-2600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 bogomips: 54279 
  Speed: 2308 MHz min/max: 1600/3800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2360 2: 1672 
  3: 1603 4: 1618 5: 1632 6: 2645 7: 1619 8: 1599 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1360x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) 
  v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.15.0-56-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Huawei E353/E3131 type: USB driver: cdc_ether bus ID: 1-1.4:4 
  IF: enx0c5b8f279a64 state: unknown speed: 150 Mbps duplex: half 
  mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 101.14 GiB (17.0%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS547564A9E384 size: 596.17 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 585.25 GiB used: 101.14 GiB (17.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 26.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 237 Uptime: 21h 26m Memory: 15.31 GiB used: 3.14 GiB (20.5%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.4.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 
  inxi: 3.0.38 
power down, reboot, will return...
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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other than a few numbers... no change.

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System:
  Kernel: 5.4.0-26-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 
  Desktop: Cinnamon 5.2.7 Distro: Linux Mint 20.3 Una 
  base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: B75M-D3H serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends 
  v: F15 date: 10/23/2013 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-2600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 54279 
  Speed: 1597 MHz min/max: 1600/3800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2413 2: 1596 
  3: 1596 4: 1597 5: 1624 6: 1668 7: 1793 8: 1597 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) 
  v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-26-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Huawei E353/E3131 type: USB driver: cdc_ether bus ID: 1-1.4:4 
  IF: enx0c5b8f279a64 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 101.20 GiB (17.0%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS547564A9E384 size: 596.17 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 585.32 GiB used: 101.20 GiB (17.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 24.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 212 Uptime: 8m Memory: 15.32 GiB used: 744.8 MiB (4.7%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.4.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 
  inxi: 3.0.38 
ok, time to plug the radeon back in and see what happens :)
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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weeee!
i can make noises again!
right, im out for YT... ooroo...

naw.
radeons back in.
power up... um... now neither output works... missed the post... vga screen popped back up as os loaded. cool. but no sound icon... reboot.
set internal graphics on first in bios.
right. boot in 5.4
on vga. yay. sound icons back.
and a new device, FFT equaliser? whered that come from?

sounds fine now on the line out, anyway. i havent tried hdmi output just yet.

but thats only got me back to where i started...

no graphics acceleration cus theres no drivers and more than likely a random lapse into reverby static that at least is fixed by unplugging the hdmi lead...

am i prepared to deal with the hassle of putting the 1030 back? sigh...

>>> ok, radeon hdmi output works. with audio. but wow, so much LAAAAAAAG. 10s latency. resolutions way off, too. always has been... but it was better than this before, it was actually usable...

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System:
  Kernel: 5.4.0-26-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 
  Desktop: Cinnamon 5.2.7 Distro: Linux Mint 20.3 Una 
  base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: B75M-D3H serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends 
  v: F15 date: 10/23/2013 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-2600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Sandy Bridge rev: 7 L2 cache: 8192 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 54279 
  Speed: 1910 MHz min/max: 1600/3800 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2242 2: 2191 
  3: 1968 4: 1956 5: 2378 6: 2053 7: 2408 8: 2505 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 
  Device-2: AMD Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770] vendor: Apple MacPro5 1 
  driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: ati,modesetting,radeon 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) 
  v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 
  Device-2: AMD Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series] vendor: Apple 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-26-generic 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 03:00.0 
  IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Huawei E353/E3131 type: USB driver: cdc_ether bus ID: 1-1.4:4 
  IF: enx0c5b8f279a64 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 596.17 GiB used: 101.25 GiB (17.0%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS547564A9E384 size: 596.17 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 585.32 GiB used: 101.25 GiB (17.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: radeon temp: 39 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 228 Uptime: 23m Memory: 15.32 GiB used: 1.48 GiB (9.6%) 
  Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 9.4.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 
  inxi: 3.0.38 
so, if i pull the radeon will i still have audio? hmmmm... only one way to find out!
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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instead of pulling the radeon, i did try YT...

snap crackle pop. there goes my audio. before even loading the page. unplug jack. lineout icon disappears. thats good.

plug in HDMI...

get the same laggy screen as five minutes ago, except with no audio and it is no longer appearing as an audio output device.

ok... bit more fiddling...
can open PAVU.

just found my sound is back. um.
pavu>config>built in audio; off
then back on.
then to output devices and noticed it making noises again. test sound. yep, its back.

back to YT!

setting stopwatch now... lets see how long this takes...
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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headsmess wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:28 amas for fast boot... 100% sure its off. i believe that just skips all the options to access bios/grub etc? if so, yes, its off, i hate not being able to get into bios when i want. check anyway when i power down.
Depending upon the manufacturer, it can skip powering up some devices (which is how it boots faster).

Some will completely skip by BIOS (which it sounds like you did not activate), but sometimes there are two different "slower" settings. One is to fully power up all devices before starting while another may not. Gigabyte has online documentation for quite a few of its motherboards so you could probably check to see your options.
headsmess wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:28 am back to 5.15. seems i can select on post, 5.15 is default...
By default, Linux Mint boots to the highest number installed kernel.
headsmess wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:26 amno graphics acceleration cus theres no drivers
I didn't understand this comment. The data you posted shows drivers for both GPUs are loaded and Intel graphics acceleration is the primary renderer.
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
Device-2: AMD Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770] vendor: Apple MacPro5 1
driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: ati,modesetting,radeon
unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1)
v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6 direct render: Yes

headsmess wrote: Tue Dec 06, 2022 4:26 am>>> ok, radeon hdmi output works. with audio. but wow, so much LAAAAAAAG. 10s latency. resolutions way off, too. always has been... but it was better than this before, it was actually usable...
You are not using the radeon as the primary renderer in this output. You are still using Intel. See the explanation in this tutorial I created How to switch to the dedicated GPU on a laptop with Intel-AMD switchable graphics or AMD-AMD switchable graphics.

Graphics:
Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics
vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
Device-2: AMD Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770] vendor: Apple MacPro5 1
driver: radeon v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: ati,modesetting,radeon
unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1)
v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6 direct render: Yes

For the snap, crackle, pop stuff, did you disable the pulseaudio timer?
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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fast boot disabled.
changing device in pavu worked twice. not anymore. just keeps popping away.
now the radeons pulled, it was crackling as it booted up, and sound icon has once again vanished... and unable to access pavu...



it defaults to 5.15. i have to force it in grub to boot in 5.4. and i have two versions of both now. along with recovery modes. sprouting like mushrooms... missed the post, its in 5.15 056 now.

the way im seeing it, the radeon is whats caused the whole issue in the first place. its for a mac. there are no specific drivers for this card other than for apple. it was never intended for plugging into a "normal pc", its typical apple junk. there may be generic radeon drivers that get it to stumble along and sort of work, but its been far from ideal. i definitely get no user interface or functionality out of it, other than as an external hdmi output. a lousy one.

and it cant even do that now, and i have no inclination to get it to work again. (probably just set intl graphics back to auto in bios) this was about installing a 1030 and getting audio to work on THAT card. which it wont do because i have a serious conflict going on, all im doing is making a mess of things as i apply fixes that arent applicable, and there seems to be no way to rollback to the settings i had before i was given this radeon POS... to erase its very existence from my puter.

i have no idea how disabling and re-enabling audio controller in bios has suddenly removed my audio icon, and when it now reappears and vanishes along with the aforementioned radeon... i know its something to do with this card. audio is being routed somewhere, somethings not being flagged, it isnt be appropriately re-routed, i dont know...

leaving me with the only option i know how to do... clean install.

when i talk about acceleration i guess i mean the user interface, like nvidia settings? i can set more than just resolution. i can adjust performance. vsync and antialiasing and... ummmm... the radeon doesnt have any of that. there are no drivers to do it for this card. it gets grumpy when i try opening CAD, and i was getting sick of its constant resolution issues... thats why i upgraded to a card that (supposedly) would work... ive been able to draw again lately.

but i done went and stuffed up, didnt i? :) noone expected some clown to actually try this thing outside a mac, did they?
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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and back to where i started.
gt1030. nouveau. hdmi pumping audio with no problems.

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Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics 
           vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0102 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP108 [GeForce GT 1030] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nouveau 
           v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1d01 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1368x768~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 2000 (SNB GT1) v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6 
           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1e20 
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP108 High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0fb8 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.15.0-56-generic 
after a few experiments, sound icon on toolbar only appears with a GPU now. and lineout has gone to hell. it almost sounds like a feedback loop building to a burst of static then quickly clamped. high pitched whine,fuzz, pop, silence. starts during boot. uninstalled pavu, tried uninstalling sound, and then got the good old cinnamon-session-cinnamon error. sudo apt install cinnamon...

well, i have lousy graphics, cant draw. but i have audio again. great. i guess that will have to do.
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Re: new card killed hdmi audio

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headsmess wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:02 amit defaults to 5.15. i have to force it in grub to boot in 5.4. and i have two versions of both now. along with recovery modes. sprouting like mushrooms... missed the post, its in 5.15 056 now.
Linux Mint automatically boots to the highest installed kernel. If you always want Mint to boot into the 5.4 kernel, then boot into the 5.4 kernel and delete all the 5.15 kernels you have installed.
headsmess wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:02 amthe way im seeing it, the radeon is whats caused the whole issue in the first place. its for a mac. there are no specific drivers for this card other than for apple. it was never intended for plugging into a "normal pc", its typical apple junk. there may be generic radeon drivers that get it to stumble along and sort of work, but its been far from ideal. i definitely get no user interface or functionality out of it, other than as an external hdmi output. a lousy one.
You are possibly correct there was a specific Apple driver. However, when that GPU and its Radeon brethren were the latest thing, ATI/AMD had proprietary drivers available for it. Those were not maintained for future versions of Linux-based distros so all that is currently available (Apple hardware or PC hardware) are the radeon drivers in the Linux kernel.
headsmess wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:02 ami have no idea how disabling and re-enabling audio controller in bios has suddenly removed my audio icon, and when it now reappears and vanishes along with the aforementioned radeon... i know its something to do with this card. audio is being routed somewhere, somethings not being flagged, it isnt be appropriately re-routed, i dont know...
Sorry, but I have no ideas. Maybe there is something in either the Gigabyte documentation or someone on the Gigabyte forum knows.
headsmess wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 4:02 amwhen i talk about acceleration i guess i mean the user interface, like nvidia settings?
That's just making adjustments to what is already loaded. The drivers for acceleration normally load for all graphics drivers at boot time. They are not loaded separately.

I recall someone else asking about an AMD app similar to the Nvidia one. I thought there was something available, but don't recall the specifics. You are getting the Nvidia one because you are installing the proprietary Nvidia driver and that app comes with it. There are no proprietary radeon drivers available for your GPU.
headsmess wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 6:44 amwell, i have lousy graphics, cant draw. but i have audio again. great. i guess that will have to do.
Have you checked to see if you have the most recent Gigabyte BIOS available for your motherboard?
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