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Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by murray » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:23 pm

HPE says its SSDs will fail at 32,768 hours unless patched
Are you using an HPE solid state drive? If so, you’ll want to install a critical firmware patch to stop it from permanently failing in less than four years of operation.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by catweazel » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:09 am

murray wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:23 pm
HPE says its SSDs will fail at 32,768 hours unless patched
Are you using an HPE solid state drive? If so, you’ll want to install a critical firmware patch to stop it from permanently failing in less than four years of operation.
FUD. I'll eat my hat if anyone here has HPE SAS SSDs.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by Pierre » Thu Nov 28, 2019 7:07 am

catweazel wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:09 am
FUD. I'll eat my hat if anyone here has HPE SAS SSDs.
Arrg - - Just Which Hat :?: an picture of That Hat Will Be Needed.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by murray » Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:50 pm

catweazel wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:09 am
FUD. I'll eat my hat if anyone here has HPE SAS SSDs.
How is this fear, uncertainty and doubt? It's not a rumour, HPE themselves have acknowledged the problem by issuing a firmware update.

Sure, not many (any?) people would be running these drives at home, they are afterall enterprise-level hardware, but I'm sure there must be some people here who work for companies that use them, hence the heads-up.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by cliffcoggin » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:45 pm

catweazel wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:09 am

FUD. I'll eat my hat if anyone here has HPE SAS SSDs.
Whether its FUD or not it irks me that HP absolve themselves from responsibility "“By disregarding this notification and not performing the recommended resolution, the customer accepts the risk of incurring future related errors,” wrote HPE." to quote from the linked article.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by lsemmens » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:06 pm

cliffcoggin wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:45 pm
catweazel wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:09 am

FUD. I'll eat my hat if anyone here has HPE SAS SSDs.
Whether its FUD or not it irks me that HP absolve themselves from responsibility "“By disregarding this notification and not performing the recommended resolution, the customer accepts the risk of incurring future related errors,” wrote HPE." to quote from the linked article.
Of course they absolve themselves of responsibility. It's not their fault if you fail to apply the fix. No different, really, to posting a speed limit change and then, some months later, you get booked for driving at the previous speed limit. HP have acknowledged the problem, and posted a fix, what more could they do? Run around to every computer are make sure it's done?
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by catweazel » Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:08 am

murray wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:50 pm
catweazel wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:09 am
FUD. I'll eat my hat if anyone here has HPE SAS SSDs.
How is this fear, uncertainty and doubt?
You left out the key word, SAS. At best, it's click-bait.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by murray » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:56 pm

catweazel wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:08 am
murray wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:50 pm
catweazel wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:09 am
FUD. I'll eat my hat if anyone here has HPE SAS SSDs.
How is this fear, uncertainty and doubt?
You left out the key word, SAS. At best, it's click-bait.
All I did was copy and paste the headline from the article. Are you suggesting that I should have altered the text that I was quoting? That's hardly ethical. If you don't like the article's headline then take it up with the website that posted it. Anyone that reads the article will see that it says right there in the very first paragraph that it's SAS drives.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by catweazel » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:21 am

murray wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:56 pm
catweazel wrote:
Fri Nov 29, 2019 1:08 am
murray wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 5:50 pm


How is this fear, uncertainty and doubt?
You left out the key word, SAS. At best, it's click-bait.
All I did was copy and paste the headline from the article. Are you suggesting that I should have altered the text that I was quoting? That's hardly ethical. If you don't like the article's headline then take it up with the website that posted it. Anyone that reads the article will see that it says right there in the very first paragraph that it's SAS drives.
Yep, you re-posted click-bait, and now you want to blame someone else ... lol
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by jglen490 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:08 am

I would think that catweazel is dead-on in identifying SAS (Serial Attached SCSI) as a rare use case for those on this forum.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by murray » Mon Dec 02, 2019 4:55 pm

jglen490 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 12:08 am
I would think that catweazel is dead-on in identifying SAS (Serial Attached SCSI) as a rare use case for those on this forum.
Tell that to the sys admin that sits at the desk across from me. He's responsible for keeping everything in our server room humming along but he also uses LM at home and is always telling me about how he has switched his family from the "evil" Microsoft over to LM. :D

I don't know why some people find it hard to believe that some LM users might also be responsible for enterprise-level hardware where they work...
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by jglen490 » Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:32 pm

I did, in fact, say that it would be rare, not impossible. So, since you have the Enterprise storage devices from HP (that's what HPE means), then you do indeed have one or more SAS drives. In which case, you would need to schedule appropriate downtime and apply the HP patch. Most of us, again, not all, are not responsible for SAS drives. That, too, is a fact.

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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by murray » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:09 pm

jglen490 wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 6:32 pm
Sorry ...
No need to apologise, you haven't done anything wrong my friend! :)

I was just pointing out that users of LM can also be users of enterprise-level hardware. Sure, they might not be running LM on said hardware, but running LM at home doesn't discount people from using or being responsible for enterprise-level hardware at their place of employment.

But I take your point, posting this here probably won't reach many people that are affected by the problem.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by lsemmens » Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:55 pm

murray wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:09 pm
But I take your point, posting this here probably won't reach many people that are affected by the problem.
Regardless, if it solves just ONE problem, it has achieved its desired effect. Not everyone here is running a laptop, either. Not all use wired networking, either. If we want Linux to be "all things for all people" then we must needs address the few as well as the masses.
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by murray » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:02 pm

lsemmens wrote:
Mon Dec 02, 2019 8:55 pm
Regardless, if it solves just ONE problem, it has achieved its desired effect. Not everyone here is running a laptop, either. Not all use wired networking, either. If we want Linux to be "all things for all people" then we must needs address the few as well as the masses.
Good point.

I notice that PC Magzine, ZDNet, Forbes and lots of other sites all reported on it. Heck, even The Register reported it!
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Re: Warning for owners of HP SSDs

Post by Moem » Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:12 am

murray wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:56 pm
All I did was copy and paste the headline from the article. Are you suggesting that I should have altered the text that I was quoting? That's hardly ethical.
There is nothing unethical about making that headline more precise when you post it. You're giving better information about why certain people might want to read the article, right here in the forum. I don't think that puts your journalistic integrity at risk.
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