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Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by creekblue » Fri May 23, 2014 1:05 am

I have now installed Mint 17 Mate edition RC, lubuntu 14.04, and xubuntu 14.04 on two separate computers, with two separate usb bluetooth adapters. On all three installed, I cannot get "blueman" to navigate and connect an audio sink to my bluetooth stereo headset. All three behave exactly the same - it will pair, say I can have "headset" service, but not the audio sink - it just says "failed to connect" even though it is paired. I've searched all over for help with this - and there is quite a silence out there on this issue - what am I doing wrong? I'm not sure how to clarify the issue, but I've toyed around with all the different settings in blueman; I've deleted and re-paired with my headset I don't know how many times now. There simply is no option to output audio to the headset.

in Mint 16 Cinnamon... no issues at all. In Ubuntu 13.10, no issues. It simply pairs and connects and is immediately available as an audio output option under sound settings. Piece of cake. Not so easy with 14.04. Please help!!!

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by TheKernel » Mon May 26, 2014 9:46 pm

Hi 'creekblue' - you are not the only one having bluetooth problems on 14.04 based distros; I had a bluetooth Philips speaker and A2DP headphones working well in LM16 but I have tried Blueman while testing LM17 Qiana (there is no default Gnome BT loaded in that) and other 14.04 distros and cannot get a connection.

The speaker pairs but fails to connect (audio sink) and the headphones just do not even get recognised. My internet reseach on various Ubuntu forums indicates that we are certainly not the only ones having problems of this kind (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+sour ... ug/1283003) and one contributor states 'bluetooth is one big mess in ubuntu".

Hopefully somebody will provide a common solution!
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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by creekblue » Tue May 27, 2014 11:46 am

Thanks. I also posted this same issue over at Ubuntu's official forums... absolute silence. I've since done all kinds of work trying to get around this, and have given up on the whole blueman possibility. I'm sure its an issue underneath with the 14.04 version of the Ubuntu base.

Ultimatly, I tried installing version 13.10 of xubuntu with the same error. I finally downloaded Mint16Mate, and guess what, bluetooth works fine. I'm not fond of MATE at all, but it will do for now. It is less resource hungry and works fine for the purpose of why it was installed (I have kids, and exercise after they're in bed - the wireless headset is a must).

I'm going to actually see if I can purge blueman from xfce (which I've learned to love - as well as lxde) and use what I find in Cinnamon, Mate (in Mint16), or Ubuntu+Unity. I believe it is what is called Bluez, but I'm curious about the interface with Pulseaudio and why it works in those distros. If successfull, I'll post again. I've torn several hairs out over this, and being uncomfortable with endless terminal commands and modifications, it has been beyond my knowledge of linux - I am a newbie who loves to play around with linux, but never have gotten good at intense terminal commands and the like.

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by JeremyB » Tue May 27, 2014 11:54 am

Have you thought about installing the 3.11 kernel in lm17 or ubuntu 14.04?

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by TheKernel » Wed May 28, 2014 3:08 am

Thanks for the suggestion JeremyB; I use my Linux Mint machine as a music hub, hence the requirement for Bluetooth, whereby, like 'creekblue,' i can enjoy my music without disturbing others. I have no idea know how to 'install the 3.11 kernel in LM17', still a bit of a neophyte in regards to Linux manipulation, but I will look that subject up and/or probably just reinstal LM16.

I do though find the BT errors somewhat annoying and would have expected that 'somebody' upstream would be doing something to corrrect the issue as it seems to have been prevalent for quite a while now.
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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by wayne128 » Wed May 28, 2014 3:21 am

TheKernel wrote: I have no idea know how to 'install the 3.11 kernel in LM17', still a bit of a neophyte in regards to Linux manipulation, but I will look that subject up and/or probably just reinstal LM16.

If you wish to test older kernel , you can use this tutorials from Kendall.

How To: Upgrade your kernel, painlessly.

Postby Kendall » Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:22 am


http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... it=+kernel

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by JeremyB » Wed May 28, 2014 6:00 am

Has anyone used

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dmesg | grep Bluetooth
to see if there are any logged errors? Or

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lsusb

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lspci
to identify the bluetooth chipset

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by Garryck » Mon Jun 09, 2014 4:34 am

JeremyB wrote:Has anyone used

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dmesg | grep Bluetooth
to see if there are any logged errors? Or

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lsusb

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lspci
to identify the bluetooth chipset
Yep..

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garryck@MintLaptop:~$ dmesg | grep Bluetooth
[   10.893817] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.17
[   10.893894] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[   10.893907] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[   10.893911] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[   10.893919] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[   17.131557] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[   17.131577] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[   17.131589] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[   17.421417] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[   17.421423] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[   17.421441] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
No problems there.. just that my PS3 Bluetooth Headset is not recognised as an output or input device. Really annoying as I use it a lot on Skype, and it was working perfectly on Mint 16 Cinnamon.

And to be frank, I don't see what the bluetooth chipset has to do with it.. the same hardware, both laptop and headset, worked with Mint 16, but is useless with Mint 17, even though the device successfully pairs.

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by JeremyB » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:30 am

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pactl list | grep -i module-bluetooth-discover
If this returns nothing

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pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by Garryck » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:17 am

JeremyB wrote:

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pactl list | grep -i module-bluetooth-discover
If this returns nothing

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pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
I was about to post the same thing.. it works for me..

Of all the workarounds posted on the bugtracker thread on launchpad, this worked the best:
However, the headset seems to work properly if the command
pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
is executed directly after startup/login before any paired BT device tries to connect - from a terminal window, returning "24".
It should be called automatically, but that doesn't seem to happen, or, something unloads it automatically. Syslog has no entry for module-bluetooth-discover.

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by JeremyB » Mon Jun 09, 2014 7:35 am

I didn't need the pactl load command as the bluetooth discover module loads itself on my laptop but it is running the 3.14.4 kernel which might be why it loads

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by TheKernel » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:33 pm

Well its now a month later and still no solution proffered for LM17 .... is there anybody out there?
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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by WinterTroubles » Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:36 pm

17.1Cinn/17.1Xfce

If solved please edit the subject line of your first post to include [Solved] so other users know there's a solution in the topic.

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by TheKernel » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:52 pm

@ Winter Troubles - thanks for the hint in both posts; I downloaded the latest firmware update for which the change log did refer to Athlon 64 based units which I have. However whilst my headphones did pair and then connect in Blueman, they immediately disconnected. At no time did they appear in the 'sound preferences' tabs. So it looks like I might have to go out on a technical limb and attempt to load an old kernel, which given my nom de plum, is quite relevant!!

Thanks again.
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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by JeremyB » Sun Jun 29, 2014 6:22 am

If this command returns nothing

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pactl list | grep -i module-bluetooth-discover
Run this and see if bluetooth works with headset

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pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by TheKernel » Mon Jun 30, 2014 12:56 am

Well thankyou JeremyB - the first command returned nothing; the second command returned '24' and so I then tried to connect to various devices. All were succesful even A2DP stereo on the Plantronics headset.

I presume that I need to input the command each time that I boot up now? Thanks again for your input ... proves even ageing novices can still learn!
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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by JeremyB » Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:45 am

TheKernel wrote:Well thankyou JeremyB - the first command returned nothing; the second command returned '24' and so I then tried to connect to various devices. All were succesful even A2DP stereo on the Plantronics headset.

I presume that I need to input the command each time that I boot up now? Thanks again for your input ... proves even ageing novices can still learn!
It probably will need to be used every restart, but it might work to add the command in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by TheKernel » Tue Jul 01, 2014 2:53 am

JeremyB wrote:
It probably will need to be used every restart, but it might work to add the command in /etc/rc.local above the exit 0
Hey thanks again; tried the command in 'rc.local' as suggested but it did not work. Still not a problem, I will just enter the command when I startup and want to listen to music.
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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by darkstrike » Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:13 pm

Just curious if any of you ever found a fix for these issues....I've been having a lot of weird issues on my Mint 17 netbook running MATE and it used to work flawlessly with Bluetooth in Mint 14....quite annoyed at this point as I've not found any helpful answers anywhere :(

My thread: http://forum.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=172600

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Re: Bluetooth Issues - 14.04 Based releases

Post by hcfbollen » Mon Aug 11, 2014 5:08 pm

The

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pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
solution works fine for me (I am using a Jabra BT3030 stereo bluetooth headset).

I was wondering though, as I am prone to forget this solution: isn't it possible to make a launcher (or something similar on my desktop) to execute this terminal command?

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