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Record which drivers are installed [SOLVED]

Post by andyO » Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:59 pm

Apologies if this is a stupid newbie question.

I just got a brand new Dell Inspiron 5567 (it has an AMD R7 M445 graphics card), which came with Unbuntu 16.04 LTS installed but I'd like to install Mint instead. :)

Currently everything works perfectly on the laptop, however, I don't know if Dell sneakily installed some drivers etc that aren't normally included in the Kernel before shipping it. For example Chrome is the default browser after booting up rather than Firefox (I think Firefox is default in Ubuntu) so I reckon Dell has at least tweaked the Ubuntu install. So... I was wondering what is the easiest way to determine which drivers are being used and if any important non-standard packages have been installed on the system before I format and re-install. Just to make the re-install as painless as possible.

(I have made a system backup just in case :) )

Thanks!
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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by Laurent85 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:46 pm

Boot a Mint usb live session and check the hardware devices (graphics card, wired connection, wifi, sound...) are natively supported.

You may also provide the inxi report, open a terminal in the live session:

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inxi -Fxz
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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by majpooper » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:12 pm

I find this topic rather interesting so I would like to ask a "stupid" question.
Dell configuring a different browser than the Ubuntu default seems pretty straight forward in that most users do, if not that, something similar with browsers. But to have different drivers that typically are not provided in the Ubuntu kernel would mean Dell would have to write their own kernel or provide their own driver manager - right? This would mean a separate PPA for security updates etc. Wouldn't this be outside the Ubuntu software update process? - which seems would crate all kinds of potential issues down the line.

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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by Habitual » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:25 pm

andyO wrote:Apologies if this is a stupid newbie question.

I just got a brand new Dell Inspiron 5567 (it has an AMD R7 M445 graphics card), which came with Unbuntu 16.04 LTS installed but I'd like to install Mint instead. :)

Currently everything works perfectly on the laptop, however, I don't know if Dell sneakily installed some drivers etc that aren't normally included in the Kernel before shipping it. For example Chrome is the default browser after booting up rather than Firefox (I think Firefox is default in Ubuntu) so I reckon Dell has at least tweaked the Ubuntu install. So... I was wondering what is the easiest way to determine which drivers are being used and if any important non-standard packages have been installed on the system before I format and re-install. Just to make the re-install as painless as possible.

(I have made a system backup just in case :) )

Thanks!
Here's a hint:
Mint18 is equivalent to Ubuntu 16.04
"Driver Manager" in Mint is functionally identical to "Restricted Drivers" in Ubuntu.

Package inquiry can be done several ways, so here's a tutorial. :)
http://www.binarytides.com/apt-get-tuto ... mmandline/

Good Luck. :)

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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by andyO » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:18 pm

Thanks chaps, good point about the live CD, I'll try that and see how it pans out.

Just in case anyone wants to know how Dell configures their laptops here's the output of inxi:

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Machine:   System: Dell (portable) product: Inspiron 5567
           Mobo: Dell model: 05VRRG v: A00 Bios: Dell v: 1.0.2 date: 09/09/2016
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i7-7500U (-HT-MCP-) cache: 4096 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 11615
           clock speeds: max: 2701 MHz 1: 800 MHz 2: 1300 MHz 3: 600 MHz 4: 800 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Device 5916 bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Card-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Topaz XT [Radeon R7 M260/M265] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.3 drivers: intel,amdgpu Resolution: 1920x1080@60.01hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Kabylake GT2 GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 11.2.0 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel Device 9d71 driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 Sound: ALSA v: k4.4.0-23-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel Wireless 3165 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (2.3% used) ID-1: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD1 size: 1000.2GB temp: 21C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 898G used: 6.5G (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 16.96GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda4
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.0C mobo: N/A gpu: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 240 Uptime: 14 min Memory: 958.0/7881.6MB Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.3.1
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.421) inxi: 2.2.35 
I did notice that there are a couple of entries marked dell.archive.canonical.com in the other software sources list.

Thanks for the input everyone!

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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by Habitual » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:22 am

andyO wrote:I did notice that there are a couple of entries marked dell.archive.canonical.com in the other software sources list.
Looks like an official Canonical approved sub-domain to me. (hosted in London, England)
I think andyO is going to be quite surprised by the outcome. :mrgreen:

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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by austin.texas » Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:45 am

andyO wrote: I was wondering what is the easiest way to determine ... if any important non-standard packages have been installed on the system
If you want to compare the installed packages save a list of installed programs in Ubuntu using this command:

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dpkg --get-selections > ~/Documents/installed-softwareUbuntu.list
Then in Mint, run the command to list the Mint packages:

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dpkg --get-selections > ~/Documents/installed-softwareMint.list
Compare the 2 files with Meld or diff
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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by JeremyB » Thu Feb 02, 2017 11:50 am

Dell does make some custom packages that are in their repos like a couple dkms packages built on linux backports for some Intel wireless cards

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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by andyO » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:38 pm

Running from the mint 18.1 cinnamon live CD now and everything seems to work just fine. :D

I've compared the inxi outputs as well and they both indicate that the same drivers are in use, so I reckon I'll be installing Mint on this machine over the weekend. :)

The only thing at the moment is that the display looks *just* a touch fuzzy, but that could be that the font just need to be made a touch larger...

Thanks for the tips everyone!

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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by andyO » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:00 am

Argh no, when I booted back into the Ubuntu Unity desktop the fonts were the same size, but look super crisp and clear in comparison to the Cinnamon desktop which was making my eyes hurt. :cry:

Obviously needs a bit more investigation...

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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by andyO » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:07 pm

Hi, it's been a while. Just thought I'd be polite and let you know how I got on.

Well, absolutely no problems, everything runs like a dream. I recently installed Mint 18.3 and it is working perfectly, no problems (I formatted the drive and did a completely clean install of Mint).

Apologies for talking about 'fuzzy' fonts/displays. That was nothing to do with Mint/Dell, I think that issue was probably down to me not having enough sleep when I was first installing my machine... :oops:

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Re: Record which drivers are installed

Post by austin.texas » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:21 pm

I am glad you got it worked out !
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