Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

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Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby James_Smith » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:38 am

Will this work? I don't see why not, though I can imagine it will take some tweaking.

My current computer is a Lenovo Y50-70 Touch UHD with a Crucial 1TB SSD that I added myself. My new computer (not yet arrived) is an Alienware 15 R3 with a 500GB HDD.

What will happen if I just get the Alienware and immediately pull out the HDD and put in the Crucial (with LM 18.1 Cinnamon already installed)?

One thing that I've considered is that the Lenovo is a 4k screen which—with Linux—gave me no end of grief. The Alienware has a 1920x1080 screen. I think with a few clicks of the mouse, I can resolve that.

Also, I have an idea that might be even slighter crazier: I have an old HP Pavllion that I use on the rare occasions that I need Windoze. How do you think it will act if I put the Alienware HDD into it? I know that's not a Linux question, but it's fun to ponder. I'll find out next week (when I take possession of the Alienware).

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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby Citizen229 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:50 am

Before pulling hhd:
1) set resolution to something lower than new lappy
2) make sure video drivers are set to open source(assuming your old lappy has a AMD/Nvidia GPU ). See paragraph below.
3) if video of old laptop is the intel on chip and new lappy has intel cpu, it should boot just fine. then your mission will be to turn off intel and turn on Nvidia.

With drivers at default, your next boot in the new laptop, the kernel will switch defaults to match the new hardware. Just be warned. It MAY not boot properly the first time. You may need to do a second reboot to get the new drivers going after they switch. when i switched from an AMd to Nvidia card. My first boot black screened from the kernel geting the new open source drivers. Then I had to reboot again for them to activate properly. Its pretty much like a linux kernel upgrade or new drivers in windows, reboot required kind of thing.
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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby now3by » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:53 am

you have very big chance to run in lot of trouble/work.
I just made your experiment with Mint 17.3 xfce + win 8.1 enterprise dual boot from a Lenovo G50-30 ssd cloned to a new ssd in a Lenovo Ideacentre 510A + GFX1050 and it failed... different CPU, video, WIFI... kernel, it was to much for linux.
I was able to boot the 510A only in safe/recovery mode... it needed new kernel for I5-7400, new wifi driver... in the end I just reinstalled the 17.3 and start config it from 0... is not finished yet.
win 8.1 enterprise started ok, I just had to delete old 50-30 drivers and install new drivers for 510A and was ready for games.
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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby Citizen229 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:01 pm

@nowby

You most likely is running into issues because of you choice of17.3. Yours should have had the kernel updated before clone/pulling because the 3.19 by default is very old. this will give you issues with newer hardware. 18.1 comes with 4.4 kernel and works with almost anything new.
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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby James_Smith » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:07 pm

Citizen229 wrote:Before pulling hhd:
1) set resolution to something lower than new lappy
2) make sure video drivers are set to open source(assuming your old lappy has a AMD/Nvidia GPU ). See paragraph below.
3) if video of old laptop is the intel on chip and new lappy has intel cpu, it should boot just fine. then your mission will be to turn off intel and turn on Nvidia.

With drivers at default, your next boot in the new laptop, the kernel will switch defaults to match the new hardware. Just be warned. It MAY not boot properly the first time. You may need to do a second reboot to get the new drivers going after they switch. when i switched from an AMd to Nvidia card. My first boot black screened from the kernel geting the new open source drivers. Then I had to reboot again for them to activate properly. Its pretty much like a linux kernel upgrade or new drivers in windows, reboot required kind of thing.


Here's my computer's hw/sw info:

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mac@mac-Lenovo-Y50-70-Touch ~ $ inxi -Fxzd
System:    Host: mac-Lenovo-Y50-70-Touch Kernel: 4.4.0-83-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.2.7 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
           Distro: Linux Mint 18.1 Serena
Machine:   System: LENOVO product: 20349 v: Lenovo Y50-70 Touch
           Mobo: LENOVO model: Lenovo Y50-70 Touch v: 31900058Std
           Bios: LENOVO v: 9ECN43WW(V3.03) date: 08/12/2015
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i7-4700HQ (-HT-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 19155
           clock speeds: max: 3400 MHz 1: 2567 MHz 2: 2400 MHz 3: 2405 MHz
           4: 2472 MHz 5: 2534 MHz 6: 2469 MHz 7: 2430 MHz 8: 2791 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Card-2: NVIDIA GM107M [GeForce GTX 860M] bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 driver: nvidia
           Resolution: 3840x2160@48.00hz, 1360x768@60.02hz
           GLX Renderer: N/A GLX Version: N/A Direct Rendering: N/A
Audio:     Card-1 Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Card-2 Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:03.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.4.0-83-generic
Network:   Card-1: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi bus-ID: 08:00.0
           IF: wlp8s0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 3000 bus-ID: 09:00.0
           IF: enp9s0 state: down mac: <filter>
           Card-3: Atmel usb-ID: 003-002
           IF: null-if-id state: N/A speed: N/A duplex: N/A mac: N/A
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 4000.8GB (64.0% used)
           ID-1: USB /dev/sda model: TOURO_S size: 1000.2GB
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: Crucial_CT1024MX size: 1000.2GB
           ID-3: /dev/mmcblk0 model: N/A size: 63.9GB
           ID-4: USB /dev/sdc model: External_USB_3.0 size: 2000.4GB
           Optical: No optical drives detected.
Partition: ID-1: / size: 902G used: 339G (40%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 17.09GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 66.0C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:59C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 254 Uptime: 2:13 Memory: 3781.0/15963.7MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35


The new computer has an Intel i7 7700HQ Kaby Lake and an NVidia GTX 1060. Not being a gamer, I didn't opt for the 1070. 1060 is plenty for what I do.

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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby now3by » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:10 pm

@Citizen229
true:
I think 17.3 is to old for I5-7400 and wifi QCA9377.
G50-30 was using latest available kernel for Mint at that time: kernel 4.4.0-71 and still boot problems on new 510A

Now at clean install it is using the default 17.3 kernel 3.19.0-32 and if I try to boot with latest 4.4.0-83 is not booting...
Until now I did not installed Nvidia drivers in Linux... it is on to do list but not sure if is worth the effort.
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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby Citizen229 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:18 pm

@nowby
you need to keep working up the kernel series. Get a boot long enough to install 4.8 or 4.10, best bet jump right to 4.10. Really new hardware like ryzen(or newer) can boot with 4.4 and get the 4.10 kernel they really need. the issue with the 4.4 kernel is, your still in the 4.4 kernel.

James might be in the same boat for his new lappy. Best would be to upgrade kernel to 4.10 before swapping to new top end alienware.

Edit: Kaby lake, definately needs 4.10 kernel.
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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby James_Smith » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:31 pm

Citizen229 wrote:James might be in the same boat for his new lappy. Best would be to upgrade kernel to 4.10 before swapping to new top end alienware.

Edit: Kaby lake, definately needs 4.10 kernel.


Thanks. I receive the Alienware next week. I wonder when LM 18.2 Cinnamon comes out. Would it be worth it to wait?

Also, do you want to hazard a guess at how crazy my HP Pavilion will act with the Alienware HDD? It might not work at all, I realize.

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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby Citizen229 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:35 pm

Dont mess with the alienware drive. If you ever need to ship it back for warranty work,you will need the original drive and Os that came with the system. Just put it on a shelf and forget about it for a year.
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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby James_Smith » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:38 pm

Citizen229 wrote:Dont mess with the alienware drive. If you ever need to ship it back for warranty work,you will need the original drive and Os that came with the system. Just put it on a shelf and forget about it for a year.


Yes, I thought about that. That's the plan, I think. I'll just keep it in my trusty ol' computer bag.

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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby now3by » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:14 pm

@Citizen229

just installed Kernel 4.10.17 on I5-7400 and it booted ok.

then I installed default nvidia 375 driver and of course it did not boot properly until I added to grubconfig "nomodeset".

now it looks almost ok... thx

edit:
It was to god to be true... that kernel 4.10.17 had problem with screen off when resume from suspend and another one CPU 8-10% on idle... back to old default kernel.
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Re: Rather than installing Mint on my new computer, I want to transfer my SSD from my current computer into the new one.

Postby James_Smith » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:31 am

Citizen229 wrote:Before pulling hhd:
1) set resolution to something lower than new lappy
2) make sure video drivers are set to open source(assuming your old lappy has a AMD/Nvidia GPU ). See paragraph below.
3) if video of old laptop is the intel on chip and new lappy has intel cpu, it should boot just fine. then your mission will be to turn off intel and turn on Nvidia.

With drivers at default, your next boot in the new laptop, the kernel will switch defaults to match the new hardware. Just be warned. It MAY not boot properly the first time. You may need to do a second reboot to get the new drivers going after they switch. when i switched from an AMd to Nvidia card. My first boot black screened from the kernel geting the new open source drivers. Then I had to reboot again for them to activate properly. Its pretty much like a linux kernel upgrade or new drivers in windows, reboot required kind of thing.


I just wanted to give you some feedback: Everything's ok. The only thing I had to do to get it to boot was to turn off Secure Boot (or whatever that's called) and change from UEFI to Legacy. It was easy to figure out.

Thanks for the help.


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