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browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by jeffpas » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:27 am

WELL it all started with large directories using nemo. When opening a large directory, sometimes it would start listing files, and then Boom! the window closes, crash.
This has been going on about a couple months.
This morning, a new affliction began.... suddenly, out of nowhere with no warning.
Firefox while browsing, suddenly crashes and all Firefox windows close.
I then tried Opera, and pretty soon it, too, crashes sometimes almost instantly after opening. Same with Chrome.
And now, playing a video (.mp4, .wmv) crashes.
I've disabled Adobe Flash Player, plugins, etc, seems to make no difference.
Thinking of course about the ultimate in bad luck, coming hardware failure and possibly losing the hard drive, etc.
Possibly, memory failure.
But how to run memtest, or to test the memory?
I found no option on reboot in the CMOS menu, or anywhere else. Can it be done on the command line?
Any other thoughts what could be happening?

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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by Pepi » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:45 am

If I was you I would pull all device(s) connections and blow them out with 'Can Air'. I would also clean you RAM pins with an pencil eraser. Try that first and see. I does sound like hardware but hopefully it's from dirt

I had a RAM chip doing this to me awhile back. I ended up pulling RAM chips and running my computer without until I found the bad one. This was the problem

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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by ClixTrix » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:52 am

Please run the following command from terminal and post the results. That will help I and others better understand and give best advise on your system.

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inxi -Fxz
I think testing memory is a good place to start.

Memtest86+ can be run from Grub menu at boot, if you have a legacy MBR install. If you're not getting the menu, hold down [SHIFT] key after post.

If you have a newer EFI system, you can download the proprietary free version of Memtest (no plus) and install to Flash Drive to boot for test.

https://www.memtest86.com/

On older systems, I do get suspicious of power and cooling as a problem. If this is a desktop system, what's the age, make, and model of the PSU?
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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by jeffpas » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:36 am

Well now I've rebooted and for the moment, everything is working fine, can't make anything crash.
Seems like I just got the server, but I guess its been 5 years. Apparently they don't build 'things to last :/

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minty@jeffmint ~ $ inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: jeffmint Kernel: 3.13.0-37-generic x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.8.2) 
           Desktop: Gnome Distro: Linux Mint 17.1 Rebecca
Machine:   Mobo: Gateway model: DX4870 Bios: American Megatrends version: P11-A3 date: 10/18/2012
CPU:       Dual core Intel Core i3-3220 CPU (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 13169.8 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1600.00 MHz 2: 1600.00 MHz 3: 1600.00 MHz 4: 1600.00 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller bus-ID: 00:02.0 
           X.Org: 1.15.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution: 1920x1080@60.0hz 
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Desktop GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 10.1.3 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card: Intel 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture ver: k3.13.0-37-generic
Network:   Card: Intel 82579V Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e ver: 2.3.2-k port: f080 bus-ID: 00:19.0
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1000.2GB (34.9% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: ST1000DM003 size: 1000.2GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 44G used: 40G (97%) fs: ext4 ID: swap-1 size: 3.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
           ID: swap-2 size: 2.05GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap 
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 174 Uptime: 1:30 Memory: 1344.0/5838.5MB Runlevel: 2 Gcc sys: 4.8.4 Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.4 

minty@jeffmint ~ $
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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by MrEen » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:43 am

Your root partition is 97% full. This might be the reason for some of the crashing.

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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by thx-1138 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:49 am

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Partition: ID: / size: 44G used: 40G (97%) fs: ext4 
You should make some extra room there, it's filled up...

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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by jeffpas » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:49 am

Well, how best to expand the root partition?
I think the problem I ran into was setting up VirtualBox so I could run Windows XP (for things that refuse to run on Linux).
It ended up going on the root partition and I don't want to go through reinstalling that, it was quite a headache :/
I've got a lot of crap on a partition "EXTRA" but still only at 46%, can I reallocate some of this space to root?


minty@jeffmint ~ $ df -v
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
udev 2973160 4 2973156 1% /dev
tmpfs 597864 1352 596512 1% /run
/dev/sda13 45628096 41695032 1592220 97% /
none 4 0 4 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
none 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock
none 2989320 43052 2946268 2% /run/shm
none 102400 28 102372 1% /run/user
/dev/sda2 303104 48352 254752 16% /boot/efi
/dev/sda10 693775240 298890900 359619524 46% /media/minty/EXTRA
minty@jeffmint ~ $

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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by thx-1138 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:21 pm

...a VirtualBox image, unless it's set to be 'fixed size' from the beginning, it expands every time you use it.
It can easily grow up to be pretty huge, and this could possibly explain what happened above, especially since it's a small drive, 40 gb. 'Snapshots' will take even more space. That's all in the manual. So, if that's the case:
1) Check the filesize of your .vdi files, maybe remove snapshots.
2) Move your .vdi files to an external drive, and point VBox to find them there.

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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by ClixTrix » Sat Jan 13, 2018 12:26 pm

jeffpas wrote:Well, how best to expand the root partition?
I think the problem I ran into was setting up VirtualBox so I could run Windows XP (for things that refuse to run on Linux).
It ended up going on the root partition and I don't want to go through reinstalling that, it was quite a headache :/
I've got a lot of crap on a partition "EXTRA" but still only at 46%, can I reallocate some of this space to root?


minty@jeffmint ~ $ df -v
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
udev 2973160 4 2973156 1% /dev
tmpfs 597864 1352 596512 1% /run
/dev/sda13 45628096 41695032 1592220 97% /
none 4 0 4 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
none 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock
none 2989320 43052 2946268 2% /run/shm
none 102400 28 102372 1% /run/user
/dev/sda2 303104 48352 254752 16% /boot/efi
/dev/sda10 693775240 298890900 359619524 46% /media/minty/EXTRA
minty@jeffmint ~ $
If the bulk of the usage problem is the Virtual Machines, you can copy/move them to another partition or drive and add them back to Virtualbox. I run Virtualbox, and I've done it even between systems. Oh, and I keep an old XP VM around too. :wink:
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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by jeffpas » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:53 pm

I'm at a complete loss, the problem has vanished today entirely and I did nothing.
This seems to point to some kind of intermittent hardware failure unfortunately. I guess I'll wait until it happens again :/

But how about expanding the root partition? Can it be done in Linux Mint on the fly, if you have say, another partition with a good deal of free space available?

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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by MrEen » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:31 pm

Possibly yes (although not while the system is running/mounted.)

If your 2(?) swap partitions are sda11 and sda12 it wont be too hard, but I'm not the one to help with it as Ive never done something like this.

Those who can help will want to see the way the system is partitioned which gparted can show (gparted is already on the live media you used to install with.)

I suggest you boot to the live media, run gparted, take a screen shot of your setup and post it back here.

Oh, and if you haven't done so already, back up everything first!

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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by jeffpas » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:48 am

Well *sigh* not sure if I'm up to that yet lol
ALRIGHT its happening again. Large directories crash and Nemo closes all windows.
However, here's a riddle. I loaded Dolphin browser for the first time, and I can view the same directories and right now nothing is crashing with the Dolphin app (???)

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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by Spearmint2 » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:19 am

Run the memtest from boot on the computer. I suspect a bad RAM stick.
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Re: browsers crashing, videos crashing, directories, everything

Post by BG405 » Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:55 pm

jeffpas wrote:minty@jeffmint ~ $ df -v
Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
udev 2973160 4 2973156 1% /dev
tmpfs 597864 1352 596512 1% /run
/dev/sda13 45628096 41695032 1592220 97% /
none 4 0 4 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
none 5120 0 5120 0% /run/lock
none 2989320 43052 2946268 2% /run/shm
none 102400 28 102372 1% /run/user
/dev/sda2 303104 48352 254752 16% /boot/efi
/dev/sda10 693775240 298890900 359619524 46% /media/minty/EXTRA
minty@jeffmint ~ $
I've highlighted the most likely cause of the problem. Your / is nearly full causing the system to choke.

As MrEen mentioned, it will be helpful to post a screenshot from Gparted.
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