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Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by Vitorvlv » Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:35 pm

Hey guys, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this or not, but here we go:

Here is my potato:
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Browsing in linux mint is really laggy, opening a new tab or scrolling through one is a pain, my cpu is constantly on 99%* .

Now browsing on Windows 7 is better, I can open tabs, scroll, my cpu doesn't want to kill itself.

Is there anything that I can do make my experience on Mint better ? Or am I stuck with Windows 7 ?

At the time of the screenshot /\ everything was updated and here is the driver I'm using:
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That's all,
Thanks.

* = Everytime I open a new tab, or open a browser
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by Hoser Rob » Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:10 pm

amd64-microcode isn't a driver as such, it's a CPU firmware update. That stuff gets put in Driver Manager in both Mint and its Ubuntu base because it's proprietary closed code.

There isn't much useful system info there, and screenshots are annoying and much less useful than text. Copy/paste this to the terminal and copy/paste the text output here:

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inxi -Fxz

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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by Vitorvlv » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:01 pm

Hoser Rob wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:10 pm
amd64-microcode isn't a driver as such, it's a CPU firmware update. That stuff gets put in Driver Manager in both Mint and its Ubuntu base because it's proprietary closed code.

There isn't much useful system info there, and screenshots are annoying and much less useful than text. Copy/paste this to the terminal and copy/paste the text output here:

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inxi -Fxz
Here you go:

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System:    Host: vitor-note Kernel: 4.13.0-32-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.28) Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   System: Sony (portable) product: VPCYB15AB v: C9007Z8D
           Mobo: Sony model: VAIO Bios: Insyde v: R0160Z7 date: 12/22/2010
CPU:       Dual core AMD E-350 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 6383
           clock speeds: max: 1600 MHz 1: 1600 MHz 2: 1600 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6310]
           bus-ID: 00:01.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1366x768@59.97hz
           GLX Renderer: AMD PALM (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.13.0-32-generic, LLVM 5.0.0)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.2.4 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Wrestler HDMI Audio
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:01.1
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-32-generic
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet
           driver: atl1c v: 1.0.1.1-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: enp1s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: wlp2s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 128.0GB (11.5% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: PLEXTOR_PX size: 128.0GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 110G used: 6.5G (7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.16GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 73.0C mobo: 35.0C gpu: 72.0
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 173 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 793.5/7578.6MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by Flemur » Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:42 pm

Vitorvlv wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:35 pm
my cpu is constantly on 99% .
That's not right - open a terminal and enter

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top
and/or run

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xfce4-taskmanager
which should also be in the menus.
Please edit your original post title to include [SOLVED] if/when it is solved!
Your data and OS are backed up....right?
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by Vitorvlv » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:32 pm

Flemur wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:42 pm
Vitorvlv wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:35 pm
my cpu is constantly on 99% .
That's not right - open a terminal and enter

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top
and/or run

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xfce4-taskmanager
which should also be in the menus.
That was extremely poor wording on my part, what I meant to say was that everytime I open a browser, a new tab or load a page , it goes to 99%. Sorry for the confusion.

Anyway, here you go without me doing anything:

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top - 22:26:52 up  1:27,  1 user,  load average: 1,29, 0,79, 0,69
Tarefas: 172 total,   1 executando, 171 dormindo,   0 parado,   0 zumbi
%Cpu(s): 12,7 us,  6,9 sy,  0,0 ni, 80,1 id,  0,2 wa,  0,0 hi,  0,2 si,  0,0 st
KiB Mem :  7760524 total,  5702300 free,   772656 used,  1285568 buff/cache
KiB Swap:  7972860 total,  7972860 free,        0 used.  6668476 avail Mem 

  PID USUÁRIO  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND                                                                                             
12223 vitor     20   0 1687168 128340  80496 S  15,8  1,7   0:45.60 chromium-browse                                                                                     
 1048 root      20   0  338148  59112  37920 S  12,5  0,8   2:33.22 Xorg                                                                                                
12285 vitor     20   0  512004  38076  29336 S   7,3  0,5   0:01.01 xfce4-terminal                                                                                      
11960 vitor     20   0 2053648 212420 113588 S   6,3  2,7   0:38.81 chromium-browse                                                                                     
 1583 vitor     20   0  186648  23804  18932 S   1,0  0,3   0:21.27 xfwm4                                                                                               
12018 vitor     20   0 1020824  73672  43416 S   0,7  0,9   0:00.31 chromium-browse                                                                                     
12305 vitor     20   0   43224   3928   3348 R   0,7  0,1   0:00.12 top                                                                                                 
    8 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3  0,0   0:07.24 rcu_sched                                                                                           
11948 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3  0,0   0:00.41 kworker/0:0                                                                                         
11949 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3  0,0   0:00.53 kworker/1:2                                                                                         
12131 vitor     20   0 1654092  87096  58136 S   0,3  1,1   0:02.46 chromium-browse                                                                                     
    1 root      20   0  119696   5820   3980 S   0,0  0,1   0:04.58 systemd                                                                                             
    2 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.01 kthreadd                                                                                            
    4 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 kworker/0:0H                                                                                        
    6 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 mm_percpu_wq                                                                                        
    7 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:01.74 ksoftirqd/0                                                                                         
    9 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 rcu_bh                                                                                              
   10 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.01 migration/0                                                                                         
   11 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.04 watchdog/0                                                                                          
   12 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 cpuhp/0                                                                                             
   13 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 cpuhp/1                                                                                             
   14 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.05 watchdog/1                                                                                          
   15 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.03 migration/1                                                                                         
   16 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:06.21 ksoftirqd/1                                                                                         
   18 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 kworker/1:0H                                                                                        
   19 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.02 kdevtmpfs                                                                                           
   20 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 netns                                                                                               
   22 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:06.42 kworker/0:1                                                                                         
   23 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 khungtaskd                                                                                          
   24 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 oom_reaper                                                                                          
   25 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 writeback                                                                                           
   26 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 kcompactd0                                                                                          
   27 root      25   5       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 ksmd                                                                                                
   28 root      39  19       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 khugepaged                                                                                          
   29 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 crypto                                                                                              
   30 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 kintegrityd                                                                                         
   31 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 kblockd                                                                                             
   32 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 ata_sff                                                                                             

And here you go with me opening a new tab

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top - 22:29:50 up  1:30,  1 user,  load average: 3,21, 1,59, 1,00
Tarefas: 174 total,   3 executando, 171 dormindo,   0 parado,   0 zumbi
%Cpu(s): 93,0 us,  7,0 sy,  0,0 ni,  0,0 id,  0,0 wa,  0,0 hi,  0,0 si,  0,0 st
KiB Mem :  7760524 total,  5708888 free,   761120 used,  1290516 buff/cache
KiB Swap:  7972860 total,  7972860 free,        0 used.  6697992 avail Mem 

  PID USUÁRIO  PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND                                                                                             
12853 vitor     20   0 1757256 199620  51024 R  82,8  2,6   0:03.48 chromium-browse                                                                                     
12829 vitor     20   0 1716812 113872  60688 R  41,6  1,5   0:01.98 chromium-browse                                                                                     
12694 vitor     20   0 2019812 177060 103764 S  40,6  2,3   0:06.20 chromium-browse                                                                                     
12854 vitor     20   0 1652972  87740  57216 S  24,4  1,1   0:01.63 chromium-browse                                                                                     
12855 vitor     20   0 1633920  76704  48068 S   4,3  1,0   0:00.79 chromium-browse                                                                                     
12766 vitor     20   0 2160688  65328  48944 S   1,0  0,8   0:00.25 chromium-browse                                                                                     
12752 vitor     20   0 1009480  65888  43104 S   0,7  0,8   0:00.22 chromium-browse                                                                                     
   22 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3  0,0   0:06.47 kworker/0:1                                                                                         
 1048 root      20   0  339000  59992  38248 S   0,3  0,8   2:58.17 Xorg                                                                                                
 8631 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3  0,0   0:00.75 kworker/u8:3                                                                                        
12285 vitor     20   0  512628  38860  29404 S   0,3  0,5   0:03.51 xfce4-terminal                                                                                      
12410 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,3  0,0   0:00.06 kworker/1:1                                                                                         
12655 vitor     20   0   43092   3980   3364 R   0,3  0,1   0:00.18 top                                                                                                 
12874 vitor     20   0 1684856  78796  55776 S   0,3  1,0   0:00.77 chromium-browse                                                                                     
    1 root      20   0  119696   5820   3980 S   0,0  0,1   0:04.58 systemd                                                                                             
    2 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.01 kthreadd                                                                                            
    4 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 kworker/0:0H                                                                                        
    6 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 mm_percpu_wq                                                                                        
    7 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:01.78 ksoftirqd/0                                                                                         
    8 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:07.86 rcu_sched                                                                                           
    9 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 rcu_bh                                                                                              
   10 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.01 migration/0                                                                                         
   11 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.04 watchdog/0                                                                                          
   12 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 cpuhp/0                                                                                             
   13 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 cpuhp/1                                                                                             
   14 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.05 watchdog/1                                                                                          
   15 root      rt   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.03 migration/1                                                                                         
   16 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:06.25 ksoftirqd/1                                                                                         
   18 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 kworker/1:0H                                                                                        
   19 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.02 kdevtmpfs                                                                                           
   20 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 netns                                                                                               
   23 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 khungtaskd                                                                                          
   24 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 oom_reaper                                                                                          
   25 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 writeback                                                                                           
   26 root      20   0       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 kcompactd0                                                                                          
   27 root      25   5       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 ksmd                                                                                                
   28 root      39  19       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 khugepaged                                                                                          
   29 root       0 -20       0      0      0 S   0,0  0,0   0:00.00 crypto 
Which, you know, seems fair, this is a pretty old cpu.

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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by ClixTrix » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:26 am

Any chance you have hardware acceleration disabled in Chromium? It's in Settings in the Advanced section near the bottom.
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by Pepi » Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:29 am

ClixTrix wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 10:26 am
Any chance you have hardware acceleration disabled in Chromium? It's in Settings in the Advance section near the bottom.
THIS

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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by Vitorvlv » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:03 pm

Nope, activated.

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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by ClixTrix » Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:20 pm

Does the problem occur with Firefox?
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by trytip » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:44 am

install hardinfo and open it from terminal with hardinfo or in menu search for system profiler.
once open make sure no programs are running and click the Cpu Blowfish under benchmarks. it helps if you don't move the mouse or open apps as benchmarks run. what score do you get?
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by Vitorvlv » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:48 pm

ClixTrix wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:20 pm
Does the problem occur with Firefox?
It happens with all 'popular' browsers (chrome, firefox, opera, vivaldi...)

Chromium is the one who works the best, but still really laggy.
trytip wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:44 am
install hardinfo and open it from terminal with hardinfo or in menu search for system profiler.
once open make sure no programs are running and click the Cpu Blowfish under benchmarks. it helps if you don't move the mouse or open apps as benchmarks run. what score do you get?
It showed me this:
This machine: 15.20
Intel Celeron M processor: 26.00
PowerPC 740/750: 172.00

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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by sarge816 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:22 pm

Vitorvlv wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:35 pm

Is there anything that I can do make my experience on Mint better ? Or am I stuck with Windows 7 ?
Have you tried regressing your kernel to an earlier version? Unless I'm mistaken, that latest 4.13 kernel you are using has some of the fixes for spectre / meltdown, which may be slowing your computer. I know that I had to regress to the non-patched kernel as it made my i5 CPU feel like a down-clocked Celeron, and I'm not kidding. My web browser was laggy, opening websites was laggy, my FPS were halved or even worse when gaming. It was pretty bad for me on multiple computers so i just said screw it and regressed all my systems. Now my kids can actually play their flash games on their old Dell Core2 Duo system again.

May not make a difference for you but might be worth a try. Those latest exploits are not really a concern for me but you'll have to decide that for yourself obviously. I would much rather have computers that run like they are supposed to instead of being more "secure" and running like shit.

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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by absque fenestris » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:29 pm

Hello Vitorviv

1. Off topic - Your "potato" has a very nice desktop & cool terminal ( :mrgreen: how you did it?)

2. My netbook never run well with Windows 7 but ist surprisingly fast with Mint 18.3 (...as your machine with all the latest upgrades). As Opera has ended their support for 32bit last year, I was evaluate Chromium and Vivaldi - both run well - slowest of all browsers is still Firefox.
As you can see CPU and temperature are moderate.

Are there some programmes running in the background (e.g. Bluetooth/Network/Weather/Gmail...) on your computer?

For comparison:

-CPU Blowfish-
This Machine 1333 MHz 16.874
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz 26.1876862
PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz) 172.816713
  • top - 02:58:17 up 1:59, 1 user, load average: 0.93, 1.49, 1.46
    Tasks: 165 gesamt, 1 laufend, 164 schlafend, 0 gestoppt, 0 Zombie
    %CPU(s): 8.9 be, 6.9 sy, 0.0 ni, 84.0 un, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.2 si, 0.0 st
    KiB Spch : 2051044 gesamt, 220680 frei, 462416 belegt, 1367948 Puff/Cache
    KiB Swap: 2084860 gesamt, 2084604 frei, 256 belegt. 1239824 verfü Spch

    PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM ZEIT+ BEFEHL
    10815 msz 20 0 879832 208280 100112 S 14.6 10.2 4:29.94 opera
    10923 msz 20 0 448328 103132 60816 S 2.6 5.0 0:33.80 opera
    10934 msz 20 0 436192 98260 65912 S 2.6 4.8 0:29.10 opera
    10940 msz 20 0 353316 77160 63436 S 2.6 3.8 0:23.12 opera
    10952 msz 20 0 325652 69504 59072 S 2.6 3.4 0:21.57 opera
    10895 msz 20 0 323088 66376 57400 S 2.3 3.2 0:21.52 opera
    11017 msz 20 0 320016 68164 58256 S 2.3 3.3 0:21.25 opera
    11123 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 1.0 0.0 0:00.30 kworker/u4+
    11174 msz 20 0 8172 3664 3144 R 1.0 0.2 0:00.11 top
    1827 msz 20 0 136900 34632 28196 S 0.7 1.7 0:34.28 clock-appl+
    1334 root 20 0 122916 29168 21612 S 0.3 1.4 10:57.02 Xorg
    1773 msz 20 0 84844 26608 23116 S 0.3 1.3 0:06.61 mate-panel
    10783 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:02.92 kworker/0:2
    11144 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.72 kworker/1:1
    11153 msz 20 0 113500 32964 27752 S 0.3 1.6 0:01.08 mate-termi+
    1 root 20 0 24120 5088 3748 S 0.0 0.2 0:05.85 systemd
    2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kthreadd

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System:    Host: msz-Aspire-one Kernel: 4.13.0-32-generic i686 (32 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: MATE 1.18.0 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
           Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   System: Acer (portable) product: Aspire one v: V1.25
           Mobo: Acer model: Aspire one v: V1.25
           Bios: Acer v: V1.25 date: 11/28/2009
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3192
           clock speeds: max: 1600 MHz 1: 1066 MHz 2: 1333 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x600@60.08hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 17.2.4 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-32-generic
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: wls1 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8132 Fast Ethernet
           driver: atl1c v: 1.0.1.1-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 135.7GB (31.2% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_840 size: 120.0GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: DataTraveler_2.0 size: 15.6GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 108G used: 38G (37%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-1
           ID-2: /boot size: 472M used: 73M (17%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 2.13GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/dm-2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 166 Uptime: 2:09 Memory: 858.8/2003.0MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35 
Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia (Mate) 32-bit - Acer D250 Netbook (Intel Atom N270, 2 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD)

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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by trytip » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:14 am

in control center > desktop settings > windows choose compton then logoff and back. your .xsession-errors file may have some info and what's causing that 99%
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by absque fenestris » Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:45 am

trytip
in control center > desktop settings > windows choose compton then logoff and back. your .xsession-errors file may have some info and what's causing that 99%




Exactly you're right there was something because of the graphics... :roll:
Compositing and all this stuff is off and Compiz deleted.
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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by Vitorvlv » Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:18 pm

sarge816 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:22 pm
Vitorvlv wrote:
Fri Feb 09, 2018 2:35 pm

Is there anything that I can do make my experience on Mint better ? Or am I stuck with Windows 7 ?
Have you tried regressing your kernel to an earlier version? Unless I'm mistaken, that latest 4.13 kernel you are using has some of the fixes for spectre / meltdown, which may be slowing your computer. I know that I had to regress to the non-patched kernel as it made my i5 CPU feel like a down-clocked Celeron, and I'm not kidding. My web browser was laggy, opening websites was laggy, my FPS were halved or even worse when gaming. It was pretty bad for me on multiple computers so i just said screw it and regressed all my systems. Now my kids can actually play their flash games on their old Dell Core2 Duo system again.

May not make a difference for you but might be worth a try. Those latest exploits are not really a concern for me but you'll have to decide that for yourself obviously. I would much rather have computers that run like they are supposed to instead of being more "secure" and running like shit.

Is definitely better now, scrolling trough pages go smoothly, and while opening new tabs does make my cpu spike, it's only for a second before it goes back to normal. So far is pretty good. I'm going to use it for a while to see if it's the same performance/or better performance than on windows 7.

I'm just not very knowledgeable in this matter, the kernel I chose to use was 4.10.0-42, was this a good choice ? Should I be using something else ?
Oh, and another thing, does this mean that I should never update my kernel ? Or is just a matter of the fixes for spectre/meltdown haven't been optimized yet ?

Anyway, thanks for the tip.
absque fenestris wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:29 pm
Hello Vitorviv

1. Off topic - Your "potato" has a very nice desktop & cool terminal ( :mrgreen: how you did it?)

2. My netbook never run well with Windows 7 but ist surprisingly fast with Mint 18.3 (...as your machine with all the latest upgrades). As Opera has ended their support for 32bit last year, I was evaluate Chromium and Vivaldi - both run well - slowest of all browsers is still Firefox.
As you can see CPU and temperature are moderate.

Are there some programmes running in the background (e.g. Bluetooth/Network/Weather/Gmail...) on your computer?

For comparison:

-CPU Blowfish-
This Machine 1333 MHz 16.874
Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1.50GHz 26.1876862
PowerPC 740/750 (280.00MHz) 172.816713
  • top - 02:58:17 up 1:59, 1 user, load average: 0.93, 1.49, 1.46
    Tasks: 165 gesamt, 1 laufend, 164 schlafend, 0 gestoppt, 0 Zombie
    %CPU(s): 8.9 be, 6.9 sy, 0.0 ni, 84.0 un, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.2 si, 0.0 st
    KiB Spch : 2051044 gesamt, 220680 frei, 462416 belegt, 1367948 Puff/Cache
    KiB Swap: 2084860 gesamt, 2084604 frei, 256 belegt. 1239824 verfü Spch

    PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM ZEIT+ BEFEHL
    10815 msz 20 0 879832 208280 100112 S 14.6 10.2 4:29.94 opera
    10923 msz 20 0 448328 103132 60816 S 2.6 5.0 0:33.80 opera
    10934 msz 20 0 436192 98260 65912 S 2.6 4.8 0:29.10 opera
    10940 msz 20 0 353316 77160 63436 S 2.6 3.8 0:23.12 opera
    10952 msz 20 0 325652 69504 59072 S 2.6 3.4 0:21.57 opera
    10895 msz 20 0 323088 66376 57400 S 2.3 3.2 0:21.52 opera
    11017 msz 20 0 320016 68164 58256 S 2.3 3.3 0:21.25 opera
    11123 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 1.0 0.0 0:00.30 kworker/u4+
    11174 msz 20 0 8172 3664 3144 R 1.0 0.2 0:00.11 top
    1827 msz 20 0 136900 34632 28196 S 0.7 1.7 0:34.28 clock-appl+
    1334 root 20 0 122916 29168 21612 S 0.3 1.4 10:57.02 Xorg
    1773 msz 20 0 84844 26608 23116 S 0.3 1.3 0:06.61 mate-panel
    10783 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:02.92 kworker/0:2
    11144 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.3 0.0 0:00.72 kworker/1:1
    11153 msz 20 0 113500 32964 27752 S 0.3 1.6 0:01.08 mate-termi+
    1 root 20 0 24120 5088 3748 S 0.0 0.2 0:05.85 systemd
    2 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.01 kthreadd

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System:    Host: msz-Aspire-one Kernel: 4.13.0-32-generic i686 (32 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: MATE 1.18.0 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
           Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   System: Acer (portable) product: Aspire one v: V1.25
           Mobo: Acer model: Aspire one v: V1.25
           Bios: Acer v: V1.25 date: 11/28/2009
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom N270 (-HT-) cache: 512 KB
           flags: (nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips: 3192
           clock speeds: max: 1600 MHz 1: 1066 MHz 2: 1333 MHz
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x600@60.08hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
           GLX Version: 1.4 Mesa 17.2.4 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-32-generic
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
           driver: ath9k bus-ID: 01:00.0
           IF: wls1 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR8132 Fast Ethernet
           driver: atl1c v: 1.0.1.1-NAPI port: 2000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 135.7GB (31.2% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: Samsung_SSD_840 size: 120.0GB
           ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: DataTraveler_2.0 size: 15.6GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 108G used: 38G (37%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-1
           ID-2: /boot size: 472M used: 73M (17%) fs: ext2 dev: /dev/sda1
           ID-3: swap-1 size: 2.13GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/dm-2
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 48.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 166 Uptime: 2:09 Memory: 858.8/2003.0MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35 
1. Thanks ;)
Not much really, I'm using minty dark theme with papirus icons. I changed the panel color to something darker so it could better match the wallpaper and that's it. The terminal as far as I remember I left everything on default.

2. That are always running on background there is only redshift and mega.

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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by sarge816 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:06 pm

I'm just not very knowledgeable in this matter, the kernel I chose to use was 4.10.0-42, was this a good choice ? Should I be using something else ?
Oh, and another thing, does this mean that I should never update my kernel ? Or is just a matter of the fixes for spectre/meltdown haven't been optimized yet ?
4.10 is no longer supported, which means it will no longer get security updates. The current LTS (long term support) kernel available in the Mint Update Manager is 4.4.0-X, but you will not want to choose 4.4.0-112, as this has the same patches for the exploits as 4.13.0-32. e.g., possible slowdowns. Supposedly, 4.15 kernel version performs much faster and makes up for the slowdowns associated with the kernel fixes, so maybe just stick with what works until it's available on Mint. Or, you could learn to compile your own 4.15 kernel.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-sy ... 9639.shtml

I have reverted all my boxes to the 4.10.0-42 as well a week or so ago as it works so well for me and I plan on staying put until 4.15. Good luck.

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Re: Better performance on Windows 7 than on Mint 18

Post by 64bitguy » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:22 pm

First, regarding that Brazil specific Sony Vaio from the original post, the BIOS is out of date. Note the latest Version is: 1R0162Z7 dated: 06/10/2011. You can get the latest one at: https://esupport.sony.com/BR/p/model-ho ... ownloadTab

Next, I would guide you to trying modesetting through KMS as well. Scroll down for the information. From what I see at x.org, the kernel modesetting driver for the Radeon HD 6310 is good to go as well. See: https://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/

Also regarding the part of the thread about:,
sarge816 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:06 pm
I'm just not very knowledgeable in this matter, the kernel I chose to use was 4.10.0-42, was this a good choice ? Should I be using something else ?
Oh, and another thing, does this mean that I should never update my kernel ? Or is just a matter of the fixes for spectre/meltdown haven't been optimized yet ?
4.10 is no longer supported, which means it will no longer get security updates. The current LTS (long term support) kernel available in the Mint Update Manager is 4.4.0-X, but you will not want to choose 4.4.0-112, as this has the same patches for the exploits as 4.13.0-32. e.g., possible slowdowns. Supposedly, 4.15 kernel version performs much faster and makes up for the slowdowns associated with the kernel fixes, so maybe just stick with what works until it's available on Mint. Or, you could learn to compile your own 4.15 kernel.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/linux-sy ... 9639.shtml

I have reverted all my boxes to the 4.10.0-42 as well a week or so ago as it works so well for me and I plan on staying put until 4.15. Good luck.
I suggest that the performance numbers are a popular misconception:
"4.15 is 7-9% faster than 4.11"
"Turning kpti on makes 4.15 1-2% slower than 4.11"

Mentionable, is that 4.13.0-32 is used (in my case) because of the features associated with fully supporting CPU features (in my case Kaby Lake; but again for Ryzen users too). Using anything less than 4.13.0-32 would be unsuitable as those kernels are unable to fully support the features in question.. but more importantly, I would refer everyone to the official Mint announcement on the subject: viewtopic.php?t=261343 that provides specific guidance; but I would stick to 4.13.0-32 if it were me (and in my case, it is).

Regarding this system.. running 18.3 on a 10-year old laptop is saying something now isn't it? I think you will really see some performance improvements (maybe, you're on the cusp in terms of whether this will work or not.. age of the system is key here) by dumping those awful Intel drivers and using:

Video modesetting utilizing the 4.13.0-32 kernel instead. Dump proprietary drivers, nobody needs any of them anymore! Let your kernel do that work.

Try it, you'll like it!

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sudo apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-intel
or alternately for the Radeon users,

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sudo apt-get remove --purge xserver-xorg-video-radeon
Once done, run:

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inxi -G
It should then report the driver as being: modesetting. If you had screen tearing, yeah that should be gone now too.

If after uninstalling the Intel (or whatever proprietary) driver, if you can't tell if you are (or are not) successfully running modesetting (from the inxi -G output), then run:

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grep modesetting /var/log/Xorg.0.log
The last lines should look something like this:
[ 27.660] (II) modesetting: Driver for Modesetting Kernel Drivers: kms
[ 27.669] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for modesetting
If so... good.. Reboot.

You'll note that with this modesetting driver, things like Firefox and Chrome are less problematic and wow.. Google Earth will actually work too... (NOTE: Woo Hoo!)

If you are unfortunate due to the age of the system and must use slower and less effective proprietary Intel drivers, you can re-install them:

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sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
or alternately for Radeon users

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sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon
My experience (especially since Mint 18.2) is that Kernel modesetting in 4.13.0-32 for video is dramatically better and stability is much improved, though on older systems, YMMV.

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