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SSD overheating

Post by Gortax » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:16 pm

I've recently installed Linux Mint 18
hddtemp and sensors say temperature is around 35-48 usually, but disks application tells me 94. I wouldn't worry about it, but I booted back into windows and it seems to be way cooler, ssd-z shows temperature of 44 degrees (everything in Celsius).
It's a dual boot setup, grub is installed on the ssd, linux itself is on hdd (temperature is around 38).
Any ideas what could cause the overheat and why the readings are so different?

Thanks in advance and sorry for poor formatting and writing skills, I really am just at a loss at this point

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Re: SSD overheating

Post by Pjotr » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:19 pm

Please generate an overview of your system like this:
- Launch a terminal window (this is how to launch a terminal window);
- make the terminal window full screen, to avoid chopped lines;
- Copy/paste this command into the terminal:

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inxi -Fxz
(if you type: the letter F is a capital letter)

Press Enter.

Copy/paste the output in your next message.
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Re: SSD overheating

Post by Gortax » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:32 pm

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inxi -Fxz
System:    Host: bart-Aspire-VX5-591G Kernel: 4.13.0-36-generic x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
           Desktop: Cinnamon 3.6.7 (Gtk 3.18.9-1ubuntu3.3)
           Distro: Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia
Machine:   System: Acer product: Aspire VX5-591G v: V1.06
           Mobo: KBL model: Wish_KLS v: V1.06
           Bios: Insyde v: V1.06 date: 07/07/2017
CPU:       Quad core Intel Core i5-7300HQ (-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx) bmips: 19968
           clock speeds: max: 3500 MHz 1: 2500 MHz 2: 2500 MHz 3: 2500 MHz
           4: 2500 MHz
Graphics:  Card-1: Intel Device 591b bus-ID: 00:02.0
           Card-2: NVIDIA Device 1c8d bus-ID: 01:00.0
           Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1920x1080@60.03hz
           GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 630 (Kaby Lake GT2)
           GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 17.2.8 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card Intel Device a171 driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:1f.3
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-36-generic
Network:   Card-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: ath10k_pci bus-ID: 02:00.0
           IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 3000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
           IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1128.2GB (2.6% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_RBUSNS8 size: 128.0GB temp: 47C
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: TOSHIBA_MQ01ABD1 size: 1000.2GB temp: 36C
Partition: ID-1: / size: 189G used: 21G (12%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb3
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.45GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb4
RAID:      No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8C mobo: 27.8C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 238 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 2284.4/7845.0MB
           Init: systemd runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: 5.4.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.481) inxi: 2.2.35 

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Re: SSD overheating

Post by Gortax » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:35 pm

I know it's not reaching 94 degrees like disks app says, but it's also hotter than on windows, so it can't be just what either hddtemp says
result of hddtemp

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/dev/sda: KINGSTON RBUSNS8180DS312G8 H            �: 47°C
/dev/sdb: TOSHIBA MQ01ABD100: 37°C
slowly gets higher, 49. i guess it shows it correctly and that's why I can feel the difference between windows and linux, but why is it like 6 degrees higher? cpu is at around 49 atm. (not using my gpu)
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Re: SSD overheating

Post by Gortax » Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:47 pm

there's a chance that gui is wrong in the sense that it shows temp in F, but says it's C, and then because if that, calculates F based on the "value in C". It might be higher by like 4 degrees or so, and since I don't have a thermometer, I can't check it. I might be overreacting because SSD hitting 90C is like going to ruin it in a really quick time. I run psensor and it also shows me 94C
94F is 34C, which would be too low, it doesn't make sense

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Re: SSD overheating

Post by Pjotr » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:56 pm

Try whether some of these write-reducing tweaks help:
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
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Re: SSD overheating

Post by Gortax » Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:50 am

Wierd thing is, in ssd there's only GRUB, so it shouldn't be running since my linux is on hdd

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Re: SSD overheating

Post by Pjotr » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:13 am

Gortax wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:50 am
Wierd thing is, in ssd there's only GRUB, so it shouldn't be running since my linux is on hdd
Why did you put only Grub on the SSD? It doesn't seem logical....
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Re: SSD overheating

Post by Gortax » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:31 am

I had unpartitioned space on HDD, i'm used to being asked where i want to put linux without having to go into advanced options. So i thought it'll be after the question whether or not i want to have dualboot. It wasn't, so it just chose the unpartitioned space. Also i think that's the better outcome since i don't have a lot of space on SSD anyway

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Re: SSD overheating

Post by ZakGordon » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:45 am

Just to say that in general i find my machines run hotter under Linux Mint than they do under windows. It seems to vary as to why and when, but overall yes Linux Mint runs a bit hotter (sometimes quite a bit). I use extra external fans to increase the airflow to help keep temps ok.
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Re: SSD overheating

Post by Gortax » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:11 am

ZakGordon wrote:
Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:45 am
Just to say that in general i find my machines run hotter under Linux Mint than they do under windows. It seems to vary as to why and when, but overall yes Linux Mint runs a bit hotter (sometimes quite a bit). I use extra external fans to increase the airflow to help keep temps ok.
thank you so much, at least now i know it's not just me
any ideas why both psensor and disks app built in mint are not working properly? just curious at this point

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Re: SSD overheating

Post by ZakGordon » Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:11 am

Not had an issue with Psensor (the graphical GUI tool) myself, as that just displays temps (rather than controls fans).

I run Mint on two laptops and both would get too hot vs them running under a Windows environment.

One (this one i use for internet) has just an on-board graphics solution (An Acer Travelmate 5730 with intel centrino and GM45 on-board graphics) and 80% of the time runs in the Cinnamon desktop just fine, with temps in the 40-60 degrees C range. The other 20% of the time (typically when watching youtube videos etc) it can hit temps of upto 87 degrees C, and i have to stop what i'm doing and give it time to cool down, even with an external fan blowing air into the case.

The other was a HP with a discreet gpu (a mobile 8800) and that eventually cooked itself to death (as in it now won't boot). This is the thread i made for that issue:

viewtopic.php?t=236930

That contains some handy info (from the 7th post down) for people having overheating issues. For myself i have not found a total solution, but using external fans does seem to help, and anyway to better increase airflow in your PC if overheating under Mint is a good idea to look into.
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Re: SSD overheating

Post by phd21 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:18 pm

Hi "Gortax",

I just read your post and the good replies to it. Here are my thoughts on this as well.

I just installed an SSDrive recently and it is my only drive, so it is called "/dev/sda". I also have various drive sensors installed including Psensor's newest version, and there seems to be a conflict or error (bug) with the GUI desktop drive temperature display with certain SSDrives. I got really worried when I added the new SSDrive to Psensor and my other temperature (widgets, applets, desklets) because they all showed 211-212F (100C) so I thought the drive was bad and running super hot, about to melt.

Yet, when I run the console command below I get reasonable and cool running temperature of 86F/30C.

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sudo hddtemp /dev/sda -uF
Results in
/dev/sda: SPCC Solid State Disk: 86°F/30C

FYI: My previous mechanical platter hard drive usually ran a temperature between 105F -120F.

I am not sure what is going on with the desktop displays of SSD temps, but I too would like to find out...
SSD_Temp1_20180314_1209.jpg
SSD Temperature display
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