Hot-Swap SATA PCIe x1 card

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Hot-Swap SATA PCIe x1 card

Post by Geonovast » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:13 am

Yesterday I got a new case for my computer, and it has a SATA HDD dock built into the top of the case, advertised as a "hot-swap" dock. However the dock is basically just really long terminated cables, there's no extra hardware. I'm 99.99% my cheap mobo does not support hot swapping.

Mobo: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6813128980
Case: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6811353100

Does anyone know of a PCIe x1 card I can get that supports hot swapping and will be compatible with Mint? Currently running 18.2 x64 MATE and the 4.13.0-45 kernel.

This motherboard only has 1 PCIe x16 slot and 2 PCIe x1 slots. GPU is using the x16 slot and covering up the top x1 slot. A larger, probably hot-swap capable board is on the list for the future, so I don't want to spend a ton of money on a card.
Desktop: i7-7700K, 32 GB DDR4, GeForce GTX-1050Ti 4GB, Mint 18.2 x64 MATE
Laptop: i5-7200U, 8GB DDR4, GeForce 940MX 2GB, Mint 18.3 x64 MATE

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Re: Hot-Swap SATA PCIe x1 card

Post by ClixTrix » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:44 pm

There are eSATA PCIe cards. The ones I've seen are usually for external connections, similar to the built in eSATA rear ports on motherboards.

Is the cable from the case dock using SATA or eSATA for its connector? There is a difference. If you've never seen an eSATA port, this wiki has a picture.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA

FYI....I have an older Gigabyte MB with eSATA and do use it with my Icydock. Does Mint support it? Well, Yes, kinda. Just have to do the spin-down/power-down and eject on the drive. The Icydock also has USB3, which (in my opinion) is better treated as media. More often, I'll power-up the system with a drive in the dock for whatever work-related requirement....and power-down the system after I'm done.
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Re: Hot-Swap SATA PCIe x1 card

Post by Geonovast » Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:58 pm

It's SATA. HDD plugs straight into it, as if it was hooked up internally. One of my old laptops had an eSATA port, and I used to have an eSATA enclosure, but it has long since died.

Here's a 2.5" HDD out of an old laptop plugged into the dock.

http://u.cubeupload.com/Geonovast/71720180714124650.jpg (The image tags aren't working)

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... -_-Product

This is the kind of card I'm looking at. It says it supports hot swap, so I really just need to know if it's something Linux will support, if it's fine to just yank the drive with it unmounted, etc.
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Re: Hot-Swap SATA PCIe x1 card

Post by ClixTrix » Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:30 pm

If the card functions as hot-swap (like eSata), it probably is worth a try. However, it might rely on driver support, e.g. Windows, for the hot-swap function.

Yes, I can make my true IcyDock eSata work, i.e. plug and pull drives IN MINT (not just Windows), so I can only suggest that it has a good chance of working. My IcyDock does have a power-on / power-off buttion, so it may not be a completely fair comparison. FYI....I do gets some dmesg errors associated with power-up/down or insert/remove on the drive...hard reset of the ATAx port. Still, it works.....
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Gigabyte GA-AB350M-D3H (F20) / Ryzen 5 1600 / Micron Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400 2x8GB / XFX HD5450-1GB
NVMe-SSD Samsung 960 EVO 250GB / SATA-HDD WD1600BEKT 160GB / SATA-SSD Toshiba OCZ VX500 512GB

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