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Microphone of Logitech webcam isn't recognised.

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I have connected a Logitech V-UM14 onto my PC. The webcam itself functions properly when I open it in VLC or in Gucview, but its built-in microphone isn't recognised at all. The microphone isn't also visible when I run Pulse Audio's Pavucontrol.

My system:

Linux Mint 19.3 Xfce 64 bits, kernel is 5.3.0-24-generic.

lsusb

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Bus 004 Device 002: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger
inxi -Fxz

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Audio:
  Device-1: Ensoniq 5880B / Creative Labs CT5880 driver: snd_ens1371 
  v: kernel bus ID: 03:08.0 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.3.0-24-generic

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sudo hwinfo --usb

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06: USB 00.0: 11200 TV Card
  [Created at usb.122]
  Unique ID: rg_L.g5E5__wJI44
  Parent ID: zPk0.7qWCOCfUJwE
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:12.0/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0
  SysFS BusID: 4-2:1.0
  Hardware Class: tv card
  Model: "Logitech QuickCam Messenger"
  Hotplug: USB
  Vendor: usb 0x046d "Logitech, Inc."
  Device: usb 0x08f0 "QuickCam Messenger"
  Revision: "1.00"
  Driver: "STV06xx"
  Driver Modules: "gspca_stv06xx"
  Speed: 12 Mbps
  Module Alias: "usb:v046Dp08F0d0100dcFFdscFFdpFFicFFiscFFipFFin00"
  Driver Info #0:
    Driver Status: quickcam_messenger is not active
    Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe quickcam_messenger"
  Driver Info #1:
    Driver Status: gspca_stv06xx is active
    Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe gspca_stv06xx"
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
  Attached to: #15 (Hub)
Which steps must I take to make the Logitech webcam's built-in microphone being recognised and functioning properly within Pulse Audio in Linux Mint 19.3 Xfce?
Last edited by DrM on Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:52 am, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Microphone of Logitech webcam isn't recognised.

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Hi DrM.

Can we see the output of pacmd list-cards as well please.
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Output of pacmd list-cards:

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1 card(s) available.
    index: 0
	name: <alsa_card.pci-0000_03_08.0>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	owner module: 7
	properties:
		alsa.card = "0"
		alsa.card_name = "Ensoniq AudioPCI"
		alsa.long_card_name = "Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xe800, irq 22"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_ens1371"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:03:08.0"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:14.4/0000:03:08.0/sound/card0"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "1274"
		device.vendor.name = "Ensoniq"
		device.product.id = "5880"
		device.product.name = "5880B / Creative Labs CT5880 (Creative CT4810 [Sound Blaster AudioPCI 128])"
		device.string = "0"
		device.description = "5880B / Creative Labs CT5880 (Creative CT4810 [Sound Blaster AudioPCI 128])"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	profiles:
		input:analog-mono: Analoog mono-invoer (priority 2, available: unknown)
		input:analog-stereo: Analoog stereo-invoer (priority 60, available: unknown)
		input:iec958-stereo: Digitale stereo (IEC958)-invoer (priority 55, available: unknown)
		output:analog-mono: Analoog mono-output (priority 200, available: unknown)
		output:analog-mono+input:analog-mono: Analoge mono duplex (priority 202, available: unknown)
		output:analog-mono+input:analog-stereo: Analoog mono-output + Analoog stereo-invoer (priority 260, available: unknown)
		output:analog-mono+input:iec958-stereo: Analoog mono-output + Digitale stereo (IEC958)-invoer (priority 255, available: unknown)
		output:analog-stereo: Analoog stereo-output (priority 6000, available: unknown)
		output:analog-stereo+input:analog-mono: Analoog stereo-output + Analoog mono-invoer (priority 6002, available: unknown)
		output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Analoge stereo duplex (priority 6060, available: unknown)
		output:analog-stereo+input:iec958-stereo: Analoog stereo-output + Digitale stereo (IEC958)-invoer (priority 6055, available: unknown)
		output:iec958-stereo: Digitale stereo (IEC958)-output (priority 5500, available: unknown)
		output:iec958-stereo+input:analog-mono: Digitale stereo (IEC958)-output + Analoog mono-invoer (priority 5502, available: unknown)
		output:iec958-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Digitale stereo (IEC958)-output + Analoog stereo-invoer (priority 5560, available: unknown)
		off: Uit (priority 0, available: unknown)
	active profile: <output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo>
	sinks:
		alsa_output.pci-0000_03_08.0.analog-stereo/#0: 5880B / Creative Labs CT5880 (Creative CT4810 [Sound Blaster AudioPCI 128]) Analoog stereo
	sources:
		alsa_output.pci-0000_03_08.0.analog-stereo.monitor/#0: Monitor of 5880B / Creative Labs CT5880 (Creative CT4810 [Sound Blaster AudioPCI 128]) Analoog stereo
		alsa_input.pci-0000_03_08.0.analog-stereo/#1: 5880B / Creative Labs CT5880 (Creative CT4810 [Sound Blaster AudioPCI 128]) Analoog stereo
	ports:
		analog-input-mic;input-microphone-1: Microfoon / Microfoon 1 (priority 8720, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
		analog-input-mic;input-microphone-2: Microfoon / Microfoon 2 (priority 8719, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
		analog-input-linein: Lijn-in (priority 8100, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		analog-input-aux: Analoge invoer (priority 8000, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		analog-input-video: Video (priority 7000, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		iec958-stereo-input: Digitale invoer (S/PDIF) (priority 0, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		analog-output;output-amplifier-on: Analoge output / Versterker (priority 9910, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		analog-output;output-amplifier-off: Analoge output / Geen versterker (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-mono;output-amplifier-on: Analoge mono-output / Versterker (priority 5010, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-mono;output-amplifier-off: Analoge mono-output / Geen versterker (priority 5000, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
				
		iec958-stereo-output: Digital Output (S/PDIF) (priority 0, latency offset 0 usec, available: unknown)
			properties:
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Re: Microphone of Logitech webcam isn't recognised.

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Okay, pulse doesn't recognize it as a sound device.

First, see if post #17 here helps. You might also need to run sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio

This was referenced from another page with the same camera that you have.
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Re: Microphone of Logitech webcam isn't recognised.

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MrEen wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:06 pm
Okay, pulse doesn't recognize it as a sound device.

First, see if post #17 here helps. You might also need to run sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio

This was referenced from another page with the same camera that you have.
I have run sudo modprobe snd-usb-audio.

I have done the following instructions at post #17 https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread. ... ost2096132:

sudo modprobe -r gspca_stv06xx

sudo modprobe quickcam_messenger gives the following output:

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modprobe: FATAL: Module quickcam_messenger not found in directory /lib/modules/5.3.0-24-generic
This means that this module doens't exist in the kernel of Linux Mint 19.3, does this mean that in the newer Linux kernel versions the kernel support for the Logitech Quickcam Messenger has been removed?

Running the instructions at post #1 at https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread. ... kcam-E2500 gives the following problems.

sudo make

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<pre>make -C /home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l 
make[1]: Entering directory &apos;/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l&apos;
creating symbolic links...
make -C firmware prep
make[2]: Entering directory &apos;/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l/firmware&apos;
make[2]: Leaving directory &apos;/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l/firmware&apos;
make -C firmware
make[2]: Entering directory &apos;/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l/firmware&apos;
make[2]: Nothing to be done for &apos;default&apos;.
make[2]: Leaving directory &apos;/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l/firmware&apos;
Kernel build directory is /lib/modules/5.3.0-24-generic/build
make -C /lib/modules/5.3.0-24-generic/build SUBDIRS=/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l CFLAGS=&quot;-I../linux/include -D__KERNEL__ -I/include -DEXPORT_SYMTAB&quot; modules
make[2]: Entering directory &apos;/usr/src/linux-headers-5.3.0-24-generic&apos;
Makefile:227: ================= WARNING ================
Makefile:228: &apos;SUBDIRS&apos; will be removed after Linux 5.3
Makefile:229: 
Makefile:230: If you are building an individual subdirectory
Makefile:231: in the kernel tree, you can do like this:
Makefile:232: $ make path/to/dir/you/want/to/build/
Makefile:233: (Do not forget the trailing slash)
Makefile:234: 
Makefile:235: If you are building an external module,
Makefile:236: Please use &apos;M=&apos; or &apos;KBUILD_EXTMOD&apos; instead
Makefile:237: ==========================================
  CC [M]  /home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l/tuner-xc2028.o
cc1: fatal error: include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory
compilation terminated.
scripts/Makefile.build:288: recipe for target &apos;/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l/tuner-xc2028.o&apos; failed
make[3]: *** [/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l/tuner-xc2028.o] Error 1
Makefile:1655: recipe for target &apos;_module_/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l&apos; failed
make[2]: *** [_module_/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory &apos;/usr/src/linux-headers-5.3.0-24-generic&apos;
Makefile:43: recipe for target &apos;default&apos; failed
make[1]: *** [default] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory &apos;/home/daw/Downloads/v4l-dvb-3724e93f7af5/v4l&apos;
Makefile:27: recipe for target &apos;all&apos; failed
make: *** [all] Error 2
</pre>
Especially that phrase cc1: fatal error: include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory is very annoying, how must that be fixed?

When I run Cheese or Skype even the video part of the webcam doesn't function at all. When I run cheese --device=/dev/video0, it says "No device found". I think that it is caused by a missing driver for the Quickcam Messenger webcam and that VLC, Guvcview and Xawtv use generic webcam drivers instead.

ls -l /dev/video* gives the following output:

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crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 jan  4 17:00 /dev/video0
At "Linux Driver for Quickcam USB cameras" I can download drivers for this webcam, but they seem to be intended for old kernel versions only, in stead of the much newer kernel versions of Linux Mint 19.x. Source code is available at http://home.mag.cx/messenger/source/ and installation instructions are at http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/

But running make install according to the installation instructions inside the qc-usb-messenger-1.8 directory gives the following errors:

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make all
awk: fatal: cannot open file `/lib/modules/5.3.0-24-generic/build/include/linux/version.h' for reading (No such file or directory)
/bin/sh: 1: [: -ge: unexpected operator
/bin/sh: 1: [: -ge: unexpected operator
cc -I/lib/modules/5.3.0-24-generic/build/include -nostdinc -iwithprefix include -DMODULE -D__KERNEL__ -DNOKERNEL -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -DHAVE_UTSRELEASE_H= -pipe -c qc-driver.c
In file included from qc-driver.c:47:0:
quickcam.h:93:10: fatal error: linux/version.h: No such file or directory
 #include <linux/version.h>
          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.
Makefile:173: recipe for target 'qc-driver.o' failed
make: *** [qc-driver.o] Error 1
Again that very annoying message quickcam.h:93:10: fatal error: linux/version.h: No such file or directory.
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Re: Microphone of Logitech webcam isn't recognised.

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Let's see the output of lsmod please. If uvcvideo isn't in the list, try sudo modprobe -v uvcvideo and see if cheese then can find the camera. Also, does apt policy libv4l-0 show as installed?

Your webcam is quite old technology. As such, support may have actually been removed from the kernel. Did you try that fix from post #17 above? Where any errors reported? That post was 10 years ago, so things may have changed. Nevermind, I checked and quickcam_messenger appears to be gone.

I'm afraid the video part is out of my comfort zone. I'm suspecting the webcam is just too old to be supported on modern Linux distros as I found this when searching "046d:08f0":
lkddb module quickcam_messenger CONFIG_USB_QUICKCAM_MESSENGER : drivers/media/video/usbvideo/Kconfig : "USB Logitech Quickcam Messenger (DEPRECATED)" # in 2.6.18–2.6.35
Although, when it was deprecated, something may have taken it's place. But knowing what is beyond my abilities.

And indeed, that tarball you downloaded is a couple of years older than the post I referred to. It's no surprise really that it didn't work. It was tested with Ubuntu Feisty, Kernel 2.6.20. Ubuntu is already back around to the F's again, this time Fossa. So 26 versions of Ubuntu later, you can expect a few changes in paths. Back then, USB devices weren't anywhere near following the USB specs as they are today.

If you're able to somehow get the video part sorted, then there's a chance we can get the audio sorted. But it's not really looking too hopeful to me.
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Re: Microphone of Logitech webcam isn't recognised.

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MrEen wrote:
Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:27 pm
Let's see the output of lsmod please. If uvcvideo isn't in the list, try sudo modprobe -v uvcvideo and see if cheese then can find the camera. Also, does apt policy libv4l-0 show as installed?
lsmod shows:

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Module                  Size  Used by
gspca_stv06xx          32768  0
gspca_main             24576  2 gspca_stv06xx
videobuf2_vmalloc      20480  1 gspca_main
videobuf2_memops       20480  1 videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_v4l2         24576  1 gspca_main
videobuf2_common       53248  2 gspca_main,videobuf2_v4l2
videodev              208896  5 gspca_main,videobuf2_v4l2,gspca_stv06xx,videobuf2_common
mc                     53248  3 videodev,videobuf2_v4l2,videobuf2_common
joydev                 28672  0
st                     61440  0
pci_stub               16384  1
vboxpci                24576  0
vboxnetadp             28672  0
vboxnetflt             28672  0
xt_MASQUERADE          20480  1
nf_nat_h323            24576  0
nf_conntrack_h323      81920  1 nf_nat_h323
nf_nat_pptp            20480  0
nf_conntrack_pptp      24576  1 nf_nat_pptp
nf_nat_tftp            16384  0
nf_conntrack_tftp      20480  1 nf_nat_tftp
nf_nat_sip             20480  0
nf_conntrack_sip       36864  1 nf_nat_sip
nf_nat_irc             20480  0
nf_conntrack_irc       20480  1 nf_nat_irc
iptable_nat            16384  1
vboxdrv               483328  3 vboxpci,vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt
binfmt_misc            24576  1
nvidia_uvm             36864  0
edac_mce_amd           32768  0
kvm_amd                94208  0
ccp                    86016  1 kvm_amd
kvm                   651264  1 kvm_amd
irqbypass              16384  1 kvm
hid_a4tech             16384  0
input_leds             16384  0
serio_raw              20480  0
wmi_bmof               16384  0
k10temp                16384  0
nvidia              10584064  40 nvidia_uvm
snd_ens1371            28672  2
snd_ac97_codec        135168  1 snd_ens1371
gameport               16384  1 snd_ens1371
ac97_bus               16384  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_hda_codec_realtek   118784  1
snd_hda_codec_generic    81920  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
ledtrig_audio          16384  2 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_intel          49152  3
snd_hda_codec         135168  3 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_core           90112  4 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hwdep              20480  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm               102400  5 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hda_core,snd_ens1371
snd_seq_midi           20480  0
snd_seq_midi_event     16384  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi            36864  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_ens1371
snd_seq                69632  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device         16384  3 snd_seq,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi
snd_timer              36864  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd                    86016  22 snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_timer,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_ens1371
soundcore              16384  1 snd
drm                   487424  3 nvidia
asus_atk0110           24576  0
mac_hid                16384  0
ip6t_REJECT            16384  1
nf_reject_ipv6         20480  1 ip6t_REJECT
nf_log_ipv6            16384  5
xt_hl                  16384  22
ip6t_rt                20480  3
ipt_REJECT             16384  3
nls_utf8               16384  1
sch_fq_codel           20480  3
nf_reject_ipv4         16384  1 ipt_REJECT
nf_log_ipv4            16384  5
nf_log_common          16384  2 nf_log_ipv4,nf_log_ipv6
xt_LOG                 20480  10
isofs                  49152  1
xt_limit               16384  13
xt_tcpudp              20480  30
xt_addrtype            16384  4
xt_conntrack           16384  17
ip6table_filter        16384  1
ip6_tables             32768  53 ip6table_filter
nf_conntrack_netbios_ns    16384  0
nf_conntrack_broadcast    16384  1 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns
nf_nat_ftp             20480  0
nfsd                  368640  13
nf_nat                 40960  8 nf_nat_irc,nf_nat_ftp,nf_nat_tftp,nf_nat_pptp,nf_nat_h323,iptable_nat,xt_MASQUERADE,nf_nat_sip
nf_conntrack_ftp       24576  1 nf_nat_ftp
nf_conntrack          139264  17 xt_conntrack,nf_nat_irc,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_tftp,nf_nat_ftp,nf_conntrack_pptp,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_nat_tftp,nf_conntrack_sip,nf_conntrack_h323,nf_nat_pptp,nf_conntrack_broadcast,nf_conntrack_irc,nf_conntrack_ftp,nf_nat_h323,xt_MASQUERADE,nf_nat_sip
nf_defrag_ipv6         24576  1 nf_conntrack
nf_defrag_ipv4         16384  1 nf_conntrack
iptable_filter         16384  1
auth_rpcgss            94208  1 nfsd
nfs_acl                16384  1 nfsd
lockd                  98304  1 nfsd
bpfilter               24576  0
grace                  16384  2 nfsd,lockd
sunrpc                385024  18 nfsd,auth_rpcgss,lockd,nfs_acl
parport_pc             36864  1
ppdev                  24576  0
lp                     20480  0
parport                53248  3 parport_pc,lp,ppdev
ip_tables              32768  10 iptable_filter,iptable_nat
x_tables               40960  14 ip6table_filter,xt_conntrack,iptable_filter,xt_LOG,xt_tcpudp,xt_addrtype,ip6t_rt,ip6_tables,ipt_REJECT,ip_tables,xt_limit,xt_hl,xt_MASQUERADE,ip6t_REJECT
autofs4                45056  2
btrfs                1232896  0
xor                    24576  1 btrfs
zstd_compress         163840  1 btrfs
raid6_pq              114688  1 btrfs
libcrc32c              16384  3 nf_conntrack,nf_nat,btrfs
dm_mirror              24576  0
dm_region_hash         20480  1 dm_mirror
dm_log                 20480  2 dm_region_hash,dm_mirror
hid_generic            16384  0
usbhid                 53248  0
hid                   131072  3 hid_a4tech,usbhid,hid_generic
8139too                40960  0
uas                    24576  0
8139cp                 32768  0
usb_storage            73728  3 uas
ahci                   40960  3
mii                    16384  2 8139cp,8139too
pata_acpi              16384  0
i2c_piix4              28672  0
pata_atiixp            16384  0
libahci                32768  1 ahci
r8169                  81920  0
realtek                20480  1
wmi                    32768  1 wmi_bmof
lsmod | grep uvcvideo showed nothing, after that I ran sudo modprobe -v uvcvideo which shows:

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insmod /lib/modules/5.3.0-24-generic/kernel/drivers/media/usb/uvc/uvcvideo.ko
lsmod | grep uvcvideo shows:

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uvcvideo               94208  0
videobuf2_vmalloc      20480  2 gspca_main,uvcvideo
videobuf2_v4l2         24576  2 gspca_main,uvcvideo
videobuf2_common       53248  3 gspca_main,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo
videodev              208896  5 gspca_main,videobuf2_v4l2,gspca_stv06xx,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
mc                     53248  4 videodev,videobuf2_v4l2,uvcvideo,videobuf2_common
After running sudo modprobe -r -v gspca_stv06xx and with the uvcvideo module installed, I ran ls -l /dev/video* which shows:

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ls: cannot access '/dev/video*': No such file or directory
Cheese can't find the webcam too.

apt policy libv4l-0 shows:

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libv4l-0:
  Installed: 1.14.2-1
  Candidate: 1.14.2-1
  Version table:
 *** 1.14.2-1 500
        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Problem with trying to use old hardware on newer Linux distros is that you run in difficulties with 404 errors when you are scouring old web forums for help.

But is there any kernel module for the Logitech QuickCam Messenger available which is suitable for the newer kernels versions of Ubuntu/Linux Mint? Or is it possible to use drivers for Windows in Linux by using a wrapper like NDISwrapper?
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Re: Microphone of Logitech webcam isn't recognised.

Post by MrEen »

Thanks for the thorough post.

Video issues are a little beyond my abilities, so I can only offer what I think may be worth trying. Have you tried a different USB port? This could especially be helpful if you're plugged into a USB3 port right now. Try a USB2 port or, if you have one, a USB1.1 port. Ahh, I just re-read the OP and see it's plugged into a hub. Trying a direct connection also may lead somewhere.
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