B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
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B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
Just finished trying out Mint 20 Cin from a fast USB drive and noticed some serious issues with slow performance. Boot up took over 3 minutes and the desktop was sluggish with apps taking several seconds to open. Altering window sizes was also slow at first. Shutting down did not work properly either. Anybody with a new B550 mobo should wait a bit for these bugs to get cleared out. Love the new look but performance is king in my book.
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Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
What is the rest of your hardware?
This nothing inherent to b550 boards that are radically different from b450/b350 boards.
This nothing inherent to b550 boards that are radically different from b450/b350 boards.
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Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
Rather than blindly blaming 'bugs' with Linux Mint and a whole series of motherboards, why not use your experience from 120+ forum posts to detail the problem properly and ask for assistance.
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
Running a Ryzen 3600 with an Asus B550 Gaming F mobo, 16GB Corsair 3200 ram and a GTX 1060 card. I assumed it would be OK because I just replaced my B450 mobo and never had a problem with Mint 19.3. It might have been Cinnamon so I'm going to check the XFCE version next.
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
My original post details what I experienced very clearly. I have not experienced this with Manjaro Gnome and Elementary OS so far. Reporting my experience is not "blindly blaming" anything or anyone. I plan on trying the XFCE version next and see how that performs.Kadaitcha Man wrote: ⤴Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:27 pmRather than blindly blaming 'bugs' with Linux Mint and a whole series of motherboards, why not use your experience from 120+ forum posts to detail the problem properly and ask for assistance.
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Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
You might like to click the link at the top of the page. You can't miss it, it's in red and says...
Pay particular attention to item 5.
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No problems here.
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System: Kernel: 5.4.0-39-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2
tk: Gtk 3.24.13 wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 20 Ulyana
base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal
Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B450M-IBW serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends
v: P1.70 date: 12/17/2019
CPU: Topology: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen
L2 cache: 4096 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 114983
Speed: 2159 MHz min/max: 2200/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2146 2: 2157 3: 2159
4: 4321 5: 2195 6: 2197 7: 2196 8: 2198 9: 2149 10: 4292 11: 2196 12: 2196 13: 2196
14: 2196 15: 2148 16: 2154
Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA TU106 [GeForce RTX 2070] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia
v: 440.100 bus ID: 06:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1f02
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce RTX 2070/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.100 direct render: Yes
"Tune for maximum Smoke and then read the Instructions".
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
UPDATE:
Booted the XFCE 20 on my thumb drive in 18 seconds and everything seemed to work fine except for the fact that it does not detect that my ethernet cable is attached and makes me sign in to my wireless. I burned the Cinnamon ISO back onto the thumb drive, ran it and again experienced the same issues of very slow boot up and app launching as well as being unable to exit normally.
Booted the XFCE 20 on my thumb drive in 18 seconds and everything seemed to work fine except for the fact that it does not detect that my ethernet cable is attached and makes me sign in to my wireless. I burned the Cinnamon ISO back onto the thumb drive, ran it and again experienced the same issues of very slow boot up and app launching as well as being unable to exit normally.
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
I see you are running a B450 mobo which I believe makes a difference. My previous MSI B450 mobo seemed to work fine with 19.3 so I suspect there is something going on with B550 and Cinnamon as I just tried XFCE without issue.HaveaMint wrote: ⤴Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:29 pm No problems here.Code: Select all
System: Kernel: 5.4.0-39-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.13 wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 20 Ulyana base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B450M-IBW serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: P1.70 date: 12/17/2019 CPU: Topology: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen L2 cache: 4096 KiB flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 114983 Speed: 2159 MHz min/max: 2200/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2146 2: 2157 3: 2159 4: 4321 5: 2195 6: 2197 7: 2196 8: 2198 9: 2149 10: 4292 11: 2196 12: 2196 13: 2196 14: 2196 15: 2148 16: 2154 Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA TU106 [GeForce RTX 2070] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia v: 440.100 bus ID: 06:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1f02 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: GeForce RTX 2070/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.100 direct render: Yes
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
I can't see it making a difference between the two DE's, perhaps you had a bad download or install with cinna
"Tune for maximum Smoke and then read the Instructions".
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
Here is my hardware output:HaveaMint wrote: ⤴Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:29 pm No problems here.Code: Select all
System: Kernel: 5.4.0-39-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.13 wm: xfwm4 dm: LightDM Distro: Linux Mint 20 Ulyana base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B450M-IBW serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: P1.70 date: 12/17/2019 CPU: Topology: 8-Core model: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen L2 cache: 4096 KiB flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm bogomips: 114983 Speed: 2159 MHz min/max: 2200/3600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2146 2: 2157 3: 2159 4: 4321 5: 2195 6: 2197 7: 2196 8: 2198 9: 2149 10: 4292 11: 2196 12: 2196 13: 2196 14: 2196 15: 2148 16: 2154 Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA TU106 [GeForce RTX 2070] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: nvidia v: 440.100 bus ID: 06:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1f02 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: nvidia unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: GeForce RTX 2070/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.100 direct render: Yes
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Machine:
Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <filter>
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) v: Rev X.0x
serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 0244 date: 05/13/2020
Battery:
Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech M705 serial: <filter>
charge: 95% rechargeable: yes status: Discharging
CPU:
Topology: 6-Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen
L2 cache: 3072 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
bogomips: 86279
Speed: 3592 MHz min/max: 2200/3600 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz):
1: 3590 2: 2053 3: 3593 4: 2053 5: 2054 6: 2049 7: 3586 8: 2053 9: 3707
10: 2068 11: 2054 12: 2049
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP106 [GeForce GTX 1060 3GB] vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: nvidia v: 440.82 bus ID: 07:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1c02
Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.8 driver: nvidia compositor: gnome-shell
resolution: <xdpyinfo missing>
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.82
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP106 High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 07:00.1 chip ID: 10de:10f1
Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 09:00.4 chip ID: 1022:1487
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.16-1-MANJARO
Network:
Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus ID: 05:00.0
chip ID: 8086:2723
IF: wlp5s0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Intel vendor: ASUSTeK driver: igc v: 0.0.1-k port: N/A
bus ID: 06:00.0 chip ID: 8086:15f3
IF: enp6s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 2.30 TiB used: 1.03 TiB (44.9%)
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 model: Sabrent Rocket Q size: 931.51 GiB
speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> rev: RKT30Q.1 scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Crucial model: CT500MX500SSD1 size: 465.76 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 023 scheme: MBR
ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: A-Data model: SU800 size: 953.87 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 7ANR scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 915.60 GiB used: 11.17 GiB (1.2%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 46.4 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 48 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 25%
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Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
Edit: OOps thats for Windows
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=291093
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=291093
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Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
Well, the new ISO for 20 Cin has the same issues, although it did boot slightly faster at 93 seconds. Out of curiosity, I DL the 19.3 Cin, burned it to USB and it booted in 21 seconds and work perfectly except for the same ethernet issue. My new mobo is running the Intel® I225-V 2.5Gb Ethernet so there might be some issue there. I suspect something about the display drivers is off as Mint 20 has better Display control on its applet than 19.3. Saw a video by Joe Collins on Youtube describing problems with Virtualbox video being "glitchy" and I remember the issues when AMD released their APU's and there were issues getting video output too. At least XFCE seems fine so that's good. Curious about Mate now so I think I'll check that out too.HaveaMint wrote: ⤴Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:51 pm Edit: OOps thats for Windows
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=291093
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
And you changed nothing else? Is your memory installed properly?perdomot wrote: ⤴Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:55 pmRunning a Ryzen 3600 with an Asus B550 Gaming F mobo, 16GB Corsair 3200 ram and a GTX 1060 card. I assumed it would be OK because I just replaced my B450 mobo and never had a problem with Mint 19.3. It might have been Cinnamon so I'm going to check the XFCE version next.
What is the audio chipset on the board?
Also I noticed you mentioned booting from USB. Did you actually do a hard drive install to see if the problems are there?
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
Currently running Manjaro Gnome without any issues so all my hardware is OK. I have not installed on my hardware, just USB. So far, Cinnamon and Mate have issues while XFCE seems to be fine. Only other OS I've checked is Elementary on USB and that worked fine too. Thinking of trying PopOS and MxLinux to see if there are any issues there. Really wanted to get back into Mint but I've moved away from XFCE and have been using Gnome for the last year so I wanted Cinnamon to work. Hoping somebody with a B550 motherboard has installed it and chimes in with some info on their experience.mr_raider wrote: ⤴Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:48 pmAnd you changed nothing else? Is your memory installed properly?perdomot wrote: ⤴Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:55 pmRunning a Ryzen 3600 with an Asus B550 Gaming F mobo, 16GB Corsair 3200 ram and a GTX 1060 card. I assumed it would be OK because I just replaced my B450 mobo and never had a problem with Mint 19.3. It might have been Cinnamon so I'm going to check the XFCE version next.
What is the audio chipset on the board?
Also I noticed you mentioned booting from USB. Did you actually do a hard drive install to see if the problems are there?
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All three mint flavors use the exact same kernel. Cinnamon can give trouble if your graphics drivers are borked, which may be the case in a live cd environment since the Nvidia drivers don't load automatically always. Don't understand why Mate is give you trouble because by default Marco uses a cpu compositor.
If Pop Os is working, as is Mint Xfce it's not a hardware compatibility issue. All these OSes are the same under the hood.
You can try booting the Mint Live CD in safe graphics mode, try a full install and then install the Nvidia driver to see if it works. I see no reason it shouldn't.
Btw if you like the workflow of gnome 3, Cinnamon looks nothing like gnome 3 standard. Stick to pop os because I think it's the best execution of gnome 3 in the Ubuntu family.
If Pop Os is working, as is Mint Xfce it's not a hardware compatibility issue. All these OSes are the same under the hood.
You can try booting the Mint Live CD in safe graphics mode, try a full install and then install the Nvidia driver to see if it works. I see no reason it shouldn't.
Btw if you like the workflow of gnome 3, Cinnamon looks nothing like gnome 3 standard. Stick to pop os because I think it's the best execution of gnome 3 in the Ubuntu family.
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
Thanks for the feedback. I think something is up with the graphics driver. Manjaro kernel is 5.6.16-1 which is a bit ahead of Mint but since XFCE worked fine, I agree that I don't think that's the issue. The lack of ethernet worries me more as I'd be stuck if my mobo didn't have wireless. Some of the new B550 don't have wifi so its gonna be a big issue. Hope someone has raised this issue with the team.mr_raider wrote: ⤴Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:03 am All three mint flavors use the exact same kernel. Cinnamon can give trouble if your graphics drivers are borked, which may be the case in a live cd environment since the Nvidia drivers don't load automatically always. Don't understand why Mate is give you trouble because by default Marco uses a cpu compositor.
If Pop Os is working, as is Mint Xfce it's not a hardware compatibility issue. All these OSes are the same under the hood.
You can try booting the Mint Live CD in safe graphics mode, try a full install and then install the Nvidia driver to see if it works. I see no reason it shouldn't.
Btw if you like the workflow of gnome 3, Cinnamon looks nothing like gnome 3 standard. Stick to pop os because I think it's the best execution of gnome 3 in the Ubuntu family.
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
I tried PopOS and there were some issues with performance even though I got the ISO with the latest Nvidia drivers. Kernel was 5.4 series so I think you definitely need a newer kernel to go with the graphics driver. Ethernet and wifi worked out of the box which is good news. Also tried Mx Linux to check out the Debian side and while it appeared to work great, no ethernet or wifi for the new B550. Had to use my old USB dongle to get online. I think these mobos are just too new and its gonna take a while to catch up for most distros.mr_raider wrote: ⤴Wed Jul 01, 2020 7:03 am All three mint flavors use the exact same kernel. Cinnamon can give trouble if your graphics drivers are borked, which may be the case in a live cd environment since the Nvidia drivers don't load automatically always. Don't understand why Mate is give you trouble because by default Marco uses a cpu compositor.
If Pop Os is working, as is Mint Xfce it's not a hardware compatibility issue. All these OSes are the same under the hood.
You can try booting the Mint Live CD in safe graphics mode, try a full install and then install the Nvidia driver to see if it works. I see no reason it shouldn't.
Btw if you like the workflow of gnome 3, Cinnamon looks nothing like gnome 3 standard. Stick to pop os because I think it's the best execution of gnome 3 in the Ubuntu family.
Re: B550 motherboards not OK with Mint 20
From what I read the Intel ax200 should be supported in kernels newer than 5.2. It has been used in x570 boards.