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(Solved) Suggestions for better youtube performance on older processor.

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Hey everyone,

So I've purchased a Lenovo Thinkpad E560 with an i5-6200U processor with HD Graphics 520. Its a great business class laptop for its age (its never been used either, got it for a steal) but my only complaint is the CPU usage when watching youtube videos. Watching regular 1080p movies in VLC only utilizes about 20% or so which is very reasonable but this processor for some reason doesn't handle the codecs youtube uses very well and will immediately jump up to 80%-90% utilization......which is unacceptable lol. Does anyone know any good tricks to get better performance out of this chip? Ive grabbed a chrome addon called enhanced-h264ify but it doesn't seem to help much. Thoughts?

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System:    Kernel: 5.4.0-70-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.8.6 
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Info:      Processes: 211 Uptime: 13m Memory: 15.13 GiB used: 1.47 GiB (9.7%) Init: systemd v: 245 
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Re: Suggestions for better youtube performance on older processor.

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DarkMatter15531 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:53 pm Does anyone know any good tricks to get better performance out of this chip?
Download the videos and watch them in VLC.
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I have the capability to do that but no that doesnt work for me. I need to video surf lots at work to find info i need.
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DarkMatter15531 wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 12:52 am I have the capability to do that but no that doesnt work for me. I need to video surf lots at work to find info i need.
Then ask your boss for a better machine.
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Re: Suggestions for better youtube performance on older processor.

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Or I could wait for someone to show up in this thread with some real knowledge of browser codecs.
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Or I could wait for someone to show up in this thread with some real knowledge of browser codecs.
That is a very excellent way of not getting help at all...Insulting one of the more knowledgeable in Linux that is among us is a sure fire way for the rest of us to back off...Have fun...DAMIEN
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Re: Suggestions for better youtube performance on older processor.

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DarkMatter15531 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:53 pm So I've purchased a Lenovo Thinkpad E560 with an i5-6200U processor with HD Graphics 520.


How to fix choppy YouTube videos on Firefox and Chrome on an old laptop

Install All Essential Media Codecs in Ubuntu Mint with This Single Command [Beginner’s Tip]

Install Video codecs in Linux Mint
(Youtube video).


You're running Cinnamon, which is more demanding of CPU power than some other desktop environments. Consider Mint Xfce, which is comparatively lighter, so it's better suited for older PCs. (In Cinnamon, under Effects, disable some/all of the graphical effects, to lighten the workload.)

You can add Xfce to your existing installation -- How to Install XFCE Desktop Environment in Linux Mint -- and still have Cinnamon available.


Be prepared to accept that your PC simply isn't up for the task.


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Re: Suggestions for better youtube performance on older processor.

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DAMIEN1307 wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 6:14 am
Or I could wait for someone to show up in this thread with some real knowledge of browser codecs.
That is a very excellent way of not getting help at all...Insulting one of the more knowledgeable in Linux that is among us is a sure fire way for the rest of us to back off...Have fun...DAMIEN
I was not trying to be insulting but I have zero patience for people who comment on peoples threads with no helpful information and are essentially just trying to up their post count by spouting gibberish like "Tell your boss to give you a better computer". Also Linux has been my daily driver for about 15 years now and I am well versed on how to effectively go about getting help when needed. If your looking to flex kid, do it to someone who wont embarrass you in the end. I was cutting my teeth in Linux Mint when people like Ikey Doherty were just coming to prominence, and I can promise I've contributed more back the community than you have. Have a nice day.
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Re: Suggestions for better youtube performance on older processor.

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hglee wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:46 am
DarkMatter15531 wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:53 pm So I've purchased a Lenovo Thinkpad E560 with an i5-6200U processor with HD Graphics 520.


How to fix choppy YouTube videos on Firefox and Chrome on an old laptop

Install All Essential Media Codecs in Ubuntu Mint with This Single Command [Beginner’s Tip]

Install Video codecs in Linux Mint
(Youtube video).


You're running Cinnamon, which is more demanding of CPU power than some other desktop environments. Consider Mint Xfce, which is comparatively lighter, so it's better suited for older PCs. (In Cinnamon, under Effects, disable some/all of the graphical effects, to lighten the workload.)

You can add Xfce to your existing installation -- How to Install XFCE Desktop Environment in Linux Mint -- and still have Cinnamon available.


Be prepared to accept that your PC simply isn't up for the task.


Thanks for the reply. I did actually switch over to XFCE to compare performance and I've got all the appropriate codecs installed, but its youtubes codecs dont seem to like HD Graphics 520, especially AV1 and VP8+9. Other streaming sites run just fine at about 30-50 percent utilization but youtube just shits the bed at 89-90 percent. I do use FreeTube from Flathub as a standalone replacement which works ok, but I'd still like to see if I can get this to play nicely in the browser. Thanks for the input though, much appreciated.
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DarkMatter15531 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:19 am I was not trying to be insulting but I have zero patience for people who comment on peoples threads with no helpful information ...
Let's be clear. You got two valid responses from me. You didn't like the first, but the responsibility for that is entirely on you because you were not up-front with what kind of solution you were looking for; all you asked for was 'tricks'. As for the second, which you also didn't like, nobody other than you is responsible for your outrageously overblown expectations of your cheap, slow and incapable hardware.
I am well versed on how to effectively go about getting help when needed.
Like omitting key requirements and key information then blaming someone else when you get told something you don't want to be told but never mentioned it the first time around.
do it to someone who wont embarrass you in the end
There's an apostrophe in won't.

QED
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Kadaitcha Man wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:42 am
DarkMatter15531 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 12:19 am I was not trying to be insulting but I have zero patience for people who comment on peoples threads with no helpful information ...
Let's be clear. You got two valid responses from me. You didn't like the first, but the responsibility for that is entirely on you because you were not up-front with what kind of solution you were looking for; all you asked for was 'tricks'. As for the second, which you also didn't like, nobody other than you is responsible for your outrageously overblown expectations of your cheap, slow and incapable hardware.
I am well versed on how to effectively go about getting help when needed.
Like omitting key requirements and key information then blaming someone else when you get told something you don't want to be told but never mentioned it the first time around.

QED
There was nothing wrong with your first post, it was a valid suggestion and was appreciated. Like I said though, it doesn't work for my situation since I need to video surf to find info I need to do my job and having to download every video to see it's money just isn't practical. That wasn't an attack on you it was just a statement of fact. Your second post though wasn't helpful at all, and tbh posts like that might deter other people from helping out because it reads like a dead end. Like 'its hopeless just get a better computer'. That's why I said I'd rather keep this going and see if someone who is knowledgeable on this situation might have something to contribute.

Also I seemed to have solved the issue on my own when I turned off window effects. Dropped the CPU usage back down to 30% like other streaming sites were already performing. Now if someone has this issue in the future and they read this, it may help them as well. You give up to easily dude..... if your gassed out don't care anymore after your thousands of posts maybe you should take a break from the community.

Also its pathetic to be a grammar <violates forum rules>, be better than that.
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DarkMatter15531 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:03 am Also its pathetic to be a grammar ****, be better than that.
It was deliberate. I suspected you would write something just like that, and as you can see, I was right.
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Kadaitcha Man wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:10 am
DarkMatter15531 wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:03 am Also its pathetic to be a grammar ****, be better than that.
It was deliberate. I suspected you would write something just like that, and as you can see, I was right.
LOL wow look at you, MASTER of psychology LOL. God this community has gone downhill.
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Re: (Solved) Suggestions for better youtube performance on older processor.

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Dark Matter 15531,
Thoughts:
Your machine is a missile compared to mine.

I assume the problem is not with the machine.
It may be at the speed of your internet connection.
Or even in the browser extension.

I believe that 1080p videos, on line, do not play correctly on my modest connection (15 Mbs).
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ricardogroetaers wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 1:33 am Dark Matter 15531,
Thoughts:
Your machine is a missile compared to mine.

I assume the problem is not with the machine.
It may be at the speed of your internet connection.
Or even in the browser extension.

I believe that 1080p videos, on line, do not play correctly on my modest connection (15 Mbs).
Thanks for the reply but got the issue solved. Youtube was having issues with window compositor so I turned it off.
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