Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
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Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
Hello All,
I work as web analyst and spend 8-10 hours a day on laptop. I don't do much of typing but do heavy mouse use from one tab to another and switching form one application to another( basically heavy use of mouse movement). I also use 24" monitor with laptop so horizontal and vertical scroll a lot. Recently I have started feeling heaviness and tiredness in my right hand. Even there is desire to work, right hand doesn't want to work kind of feeling. I use local mouse for work.
So wondering if changing mouse would help me to get rid of sourness in right hand.In this case do you have any recommendation for right mouse for my condition.
I've medium built hands.And LM is my main OS.
Look forward to your recommendations in this case.
Thank you.
I work as web analyst and spend 8-10 hours a day on laptop. I don't do much of typing but do heavy mouse use from one tab to another and switching form one application to another( basically heavy use of mouse movement). I also use 24" monitor with laptop so horizontal and vertical scroll a lot. Recently I have started feeling heaviness and tiredness in my right hand. Even there is desire to work, right hand doesn't want to work kind of feeling. I use local mouse for work.
So wondering if changing mouse would help me to get rid of sourness in right hand.In this case do you have any recommendation for right mouse for my condition.
I've medium built hands.And LM is my main OS.
Look forward to your recommendations in this case.
Thank you.
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Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
Sounds like you're well on your way to giving yourself RSI / repetitive strain injury. Check your posture, that you're sitting without tension in your back/shoulder/neck when using the mouse. Take breaks every hour where you stand up and walk around a bit. Take a walk during lunch hour. Ideally another walk after workday. And I'd suggest to visit a physiotherapist to get help recovering from this and prevent it from getting even worse. Take this serious.
A different mouse and/or keyboard can play a minor role in this but the major things are posture and taking breaks. I use a keyboard from https://evoluent.com/ such that my arm doesn't need to stretch to reach the mouse. The keyboard is also very flat and without a tilt so that typing doesn't strain wrists as most other keyboards do. They also have a vertical mouse that may help to relax your wrist. That didn't do anything for me but the keyboard has helped me.
These can help a bit with posture but just getting that mouse and/or keyboard is unlikely to fix everything. You need a healthier work habit. Paying attention to your posture and taking breaks.
A different mouse and/or keyboard can play a minor role in this but the major things are posture and taking breaks. I use a keyboard from https://evoluent.com/ such that my arm doesn't need to stretch to reach the mouse. The keyboard is also very flat and without a tilt so that typing doesn't strain wrists as most other keyboards do. They also have a vertical mouse that may help to relax your wrist. That didn't do anything for me but the keyboard has helped me.
These can help a bit with posture but just getting that mouse and/or keyboard is unlikely to fix everything. You need a healthier work habit. Paying attention to your posture and taking breaks.
Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
Hi @xenopeek,
Thank you so much for your insights. I've visited Physio and he has suggested some neck exercises which I'm doing but didn't know about RSI or He also didn't say anything about it. I need to increase my awareness and make it part of my life style.
Thank you so much for your insights. I've visited Physio and he has suggested some neck exercises which I'm doing but didn't know about RSI or He also didn't say anything about it. I need to increase my awareness and make it part of my life style.
xenopeek wrote: ⤴Sat Jun 12, 2021 5:33 am Sounds like you're well on your way to giving yourself RSI / repetitive strain injury. Check your posture, that you're sitting without tension in your back/shoulder/neck when using the mouse. Take breaks every hour where you stand up and walk around a bit. Take a walk during lunch hour. Ideally another walk after workday. And I'd suggest to visit a physiotherapist to get help recovering from this and prevent it from getting even worse. Take this serious.
A different mouse and/or keyboard can play a minor role in this but the major things are posture and taking breaks. I use a keyboard from https://evoluent.com/ such that my arm doesn't need to stretch to reach the mouse. The keyboard is also very flat and without a tilt so that typing doesn't strain wrists as most other keyboards do. They also have a vertical mouse that may help to relax your wrist. That didn't do anything for me but the keyboard has helped me.
These can help a bit with posture but just getting that mouse and/or keyboard is unlikely to fix everything. You need a healthier work habit. Paying attention to your posture and taking breaks.
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Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
This is very strange - a physiotherapist should really know more about this. It is not as if a tiny minority have to deal with keyboards, mice and screens on a daily basis.
What worked in my case (it was more than 12 years ago, but still valid):
Work at different tables, in a sitting and in a standing position. There are tables with variable height adjustment.
In a sitting position, use of various seating options, including knee stools and large inflatable medicine balls, along with rather hard or rather soft chairs.
On each of these seats you take a slightly different position, from the neck to the elbow, the hand and to the fingertips.
Two monitors of the same size side by side. Assuming good quality and correct positioning, you can work very relaxed, especially when standing - you are simply less "glued" to the table.
And last but not least: treat yourself to different mice - large, small, flat, high - whatever and alternate in their use. Hands and fingers also love variety and giving yourself something is also nice.
Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
@absque fenestris thank you so much for sharing your experience, it's really helpful.
absque fenestris wrote: ⤴Sat Jun 12, 2021 1:13 pmThis is very strange - a physiotherapist should really know more about this. It is not as if a tiny minority have to deal with keyboards, mice and screens on a daily basis.
What worked in my case (it was more than 12 years ago, but still valid):
Work at different tables, in a sitting and in a standing position. There are tables with variable height adjustment.
In a sitting position, use of various seating options, including knee stools and large inflatable medicine balls, along with rather hard or rather soft chairs.
On each of these seats you take a slightly different position, from the neck to the elbow, the hand and to the fingertips.
Two monitors of the same size side by side. Assuming good quality and correct positioning, you can work very relaxed, especially when standing - you are simply less "glued" to the table.
And last but not least: treat yourself to different mice - large, small, flat, high - whatever and alternate in their use. Hands and fingers also love variety and giving yourself something is also nice.
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Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
Autokey and xbindkeys are my friends.
I use my Mint PC for work (on the down-low ) and I am in and out of spread sheets all the time.
Both have a bit of a learning curve, but when you get it, you'll wonder how you got by without them.
Great tutorials on both on YouTube.
Autokey is like Linux autohotkey and don't need to be a python pro to use it.
xbindkeys has a gui that in my opinion stinks and I just use the CLI to update
My fingers got bad arthritis from the scroll wheel
~/.xbindkeysrc
I binded a mouse button to perform page down. No more scroll wheel
I use my Mint PC for work (on the down-low ) and I am in and out of spread sheets all the time.
Both have a bit of a learning curve, but when you get it, you'll wonder how you got by without them.
Great tutorials on both on YouTube.
Autokey is like Linux autohotkey and don't need to be a python pro to use it.
xbindkeys has a gui that in my opinion stinks and I just use the CLI to update
My fingers got bad arthritis from the scroll wheel
~/.xbindkeysrc
Code: Select all
#mouse down
"xvkbd -text '\[Page_Down]'"
b:10
Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
Weird suggestion: use the other hand. I'm right-handed myself, and I hand-write only with my right hand. I can use the mouse with my right hand as well, but I use it mostly with my left hand - with swapped mouse keys of course. I made the transition when my right hand was injured, and then I found the mouse on the left so nice that I kept it that way when the right hand was OK again.
It probably won't take you more than a week to get comfortable with that if you use a symmetrical mouse, though precision work like graphics editing takes a bit more. Given the medical discomfort you're heading for with your right hand, this will be a minor nuisance, and it will address the root cause: too much strain for your right hand.
Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
Have you tried using a trackball instead of a mouse? I switched to a Logitech M570 and it has been a huge help. With a trackball, only your thumb moves, so you don't need to lift and lower your entire arm all the time.
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Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
Thanks everyone for the suggestions, with many suggestions and change in mouse, taking breaks in between, using workrave and always keeping in mind health is supreme and work is secondary. I've also started having multiple mice so only one wouldn't get used and not hurting body by repeated use.
@evmacian I will order this mouse once it's available.
@evmacian I will order this mouse once it's available.
Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
I had some carpel tunnel issues and these things helped me tremendously.
1) Buy a good gaming mouse - one that is easy to click.
2) Get a mouse pad with a wrist rest. I also added to mine a rolled wash cloth taped to keep it round - supports lower forearm.
3) Go into Home folder and change setting to open folders with 1 click instead of 2. Edit>Preferences>Behaviour ---> single click to open items.
1) Buy a good gaming mouse - one that is easy to click.
2) Get a mouse pad with a wrist rest. I also added to mine a rolled wash cloth taped to keep it round - supports lower forearm.
3) Go into Home folder and change setting to open folders with 1 click instead of 2. Edit>Preferences>Behaviour ---> single click to open items.
Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
Random thought:
I think having to reach for a mouse during (eg) word-processing is counterproductive. A solution could be a foot-operated trackball.
I think having to reach for a mouse during (eg) word-processing is counterproductive. A solution could be a foot-operated trackball.
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Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
One thing you can try is to set up a mouse so it's very sensitive and accelerates fast. Then you can find a comfortable way to hold it and just use finger motions almost all the time. I've been doing this for years.
I like Microsoft wireless mice personally.
I like Microsoft wireless mice personally.
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Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
That doesn't work for me: with my UHD monitor, the settings available in Mint don't go high enough.
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Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
https://www.logitech.com/en-us/products ... mouse.html
You can't go past it. It's the best moose on the planet. The only thing you move is your thumb, brilliantly comfortable angle, and customisable buttons.
Re: Mouse recommendations for heavy application/browsing work
This is very good advice. I'm not sure everyone can do it, but I switched to left handed for about 8 months or more, two different times to avoid surgery. It works. I also suggest you squeeze a racket ball - a lot. Put a racket ball every place you occupy (car, office, couch, etc) and squeeze it with the problem hand all the time.Weird suggestion: use the other hand.