Particle_Man wrote: ⤴Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:20 amNow, Suspend from the menu hibernates instead of suspends
Did you reconfigure the menu? I don't know why the system would hibernate instead of suspending.
That sounds like a problem.
Particle_Man wrote: ⤴Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:38 amHowever, the mount point isn't temporary (/media is temporary).
I guess your documentation is different from mine.
Particle_Man wrote: ⤴Wed Nov 30, 2022 12:38 amI provided the info from System Information as requested, which I inferred you preferred to inxi due to the significant overlap.
For either one, I wanted to see all of the information and not just the top part. What you posted is missing the Partitions, USB, Sensors, Repos, and Info sections of the output. Maybe it just got cut off when you copied and pasted.
Particle_Man wrote: ⤴Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:20 amThat it's a regular occurence, meaning it doesn't sleep like S3 would but leads to burning up in backpacks and such, is what I have gleaned.
If you have to "glean" it, is the issue really relevant to your situation? Just because someone else is having an issue does not mean you, with a different laptop model, will have the same issue. Many of these issues are very much model dependent. Make sure you are doing comparisons with your model and not models from other manufacturers.
Particle_Man wrote: ⤴Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:20 am
SMG wrote: ⤴Tue Nov 29, 2022 11:16 pm
Have you checked the BIOS/UEFI to see if there is a Linux sleep mode? I recall some people saying their system had that setting, but I do not recall if those were Dell laptops.
This is the first thing I tried. Surely such an option would have avoided this debacle.
Does that mean you computer has the setting or it does not have the setting? Not all computers react the same way with the setting (ie. it's not always an intuitive a setting as one would expect it to be).
Particle_Man wrote: ⤴Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:20 amWell, to me it's a tightly coupled issue. if this system can't suspend comparabiy to S3 then it's as good as returned. Having to keep it plugged in overnight to prevent a complete battery drain is the excruciating pain point. Hibernation would be an acceptable workaround.
You asked for help solving a specific issue and told us the computer would not suspend. If the computer suspends, but you don't like the energy drainage, then that means the computer suspending is not the problem.
While it is well within your rights to decide whether you want to keep the laptop, I do not normally help with power-related issues like what it appears you are describing. I help people with suspension issues.
Particle_Man wrote: ⤴Wed Nov 30, 2022 9:20 amThe following was after a brief time with the lid closed. Curiously, the timestamp got offset (it's not yet Nov 30).
Offsets happen because the clock does not advance when the computer is suspended.
That fact (the time is not current) and the lines in the output indicate your computer is suspending and it is resuming from suspending. There is not a suspension issue with your computer.
This line would seem to indicate your computer is only doing S2idle instead of S3.
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[Tue Nov 29 22:55:15 2022] PM: resume from suspend-to-idle
I recall seeing some topics where people made changes in an attempt to switch to S3 suspension, but that gets into parts of the operating system (power states) I do not usually mess with and can not help you with it.
I do not see any problem with your computer's ability to suspend or to resume from suspend. I do see some lines I've not seen before where the computer sleeps, then wakes, then creates the hibernation image, then sleeps again. Perhaps something is done differently in btrfs as compared to ext4? The below lines are part of the new-to-me ones.
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[Wed Nov 30 00:14:42 2022] PM: Hibernation mode set to 'suspend'
[Wed Nov 30 00:14:42 2022] PM: hibernation: hibernation entry
The later lines do indicate the hibernation image was created and then the filesystem goes into s2idle suspension.
Then there is mention of D3hot (instead of D3cold) for multiple devices.
I suggest running a live session of LM21 from an install usb and see if you get different results when suspending. Maybe there is a difference between btrfs and ext4 which is making itself known in this situation.
