If Printing Services Stops - ...Just Reinstall... [UPDATE] Don't Do This

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If Printing Services Stops - ...Just Reinstall... [UPDATE] Don't Do This

Post by RubyStone » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:43 am

See My Post Below for Reference

I have discovered a repeatable issue with CUPS/Printing. IF you go into the advanced settings - after opening the printer options - and make any chance in logs/history then you will brake the printing server/service. Just don't do it unless/until the the Mint/Cinnamon team can fix this. On two different systems this happens every time and is repeatable.

Hope this helps someone.
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Hi Everyone,

Sharing my experience - just in case someone has a fix - about printing.

With Mint Cinnamon 19.2 and hp M251nw via WiFi. All other computers print to this printer so no issues with it or its IP, etc.

I went into properties and selected don't save history - don't know why, I just did - and it broke CUPS forever.
Message," Printing service not available. Start the service on this computer or connect to another server."

Looked around, restarted, reinstalled, re-every-thing-under-the-sun. NOTHING.

If this happens, rather than spending about an hour looking for a solution, just back up the system and reinstall. Faster and easier.

Dear amazing Mint Developers, please disable the way that tend to break things like this so us simple folk don't get stuck in this cycle.

Have an amazing day.
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Re: If Printing Services Stops - No Fix - Just Reinstall

Post by catweazel » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:54 am

RubyStone wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:43 am
If this happens, rather than spending about an hour looking for a solution, just back up the system and reinstall. Faster and easier.
That's very poor advice, and you didn't even attempt to ask here for assistance.
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Re: If Printing Services Stops - No Fix - Just Reinstall

Post by RubyStone » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:14 am

Sorry. Wasn't meant to be strong advice. I was just sharing my experiences.
I did come to the forums. I was searching around for about an hour. I also looked into the Ubuntu forums.
Luckily I had my trusty laptop handy to get the printing finished. That said, Someone should look and see if making the changes I mentioned is some kind of bug.

Take care all.

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Re: If Printing Services Stops - No Fix - Just Reinstall

Post by Pierre » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:18 am

sure - that's fine.
8)
sometimes - - it's just plain quicker, to goto an re-installation.

you can get some good advice, on this forum, but sometimes, it's easier to just re-install, again.
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Re: If Printing Services Stops - No Fix - Just Reinstall

Post by Moem » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:36 am

RubyStone wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:14 am
I did come to the forums. I was searching around for about an hour.
It might have been quicker to post a question. It's not a read-only medium. :wink:
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If your issue is solved, kindly indicate that by editing the first post in the topic, and adding [SOLVED] to the title. Thanks!

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Re: If Printing Services Stops - No Fix - Just Reinstall

Post by RubyStone » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:07 pm

Post my question but it looks like there are no replies. Oh well.

This is actually the second time that this happened on different systems. Same symptoms no obvious solution available.

Lets face it, printing is kind of a major issue that I can't spend all this time trying to diagnose and fix.

Sadly, because I'm not really happy with the 18.x Mint Cinnamon (or Mate), I have decided to try a different Linux. It seems that Ubuntu has a fork of Mate. The trial of their Beta seems nice so I will give the stable version a try - Maybe I can customize that to work for me.

I will probably wait until I am satisfied so hopefully, if there is a resolution to the Mint printing issue I won't need to change.

If it happens, no hard feelings.

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Re: If Printing Services Stops - No Fix - Just Reinstall

Post by absque fenestris » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:47 pm

This isn't just Mint.... 25 years of Mac and in between some Windows and Linux variants have taught me to distrust all possible printers and their drivers to the highest degree.
I don't know if it's bad will or inability - but these things never work as I would like them to.
The same printer, on the same cable, unchanged on the same table, reports its invisibility after a restart... completely independent of the system. I gave it up. Scanner the same...
Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia (Mate) 32-bit - Acer D250 Netbook (Intel Atom N270, 2 GB RAM, 120 GB SSD)
Linux Mint 17.3 Rosa (Mate) 64-bit - MacBook Pro 15" (Intel Core2 Duo, 8 GB RAM, 240 GB SSD) - with some separation difficulties...

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Re: If Printing Services Stops - No Fix - Just Reinstall

Post by brian_p » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:25 pm

RubyStone wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:07 pm

Sadly, because I'm not really happy with the 18.x Mint Cinnamon (or Mate), I have decided to try a different Linux. It seems that Ubuntu has a fork of Mate. The trial of their Beta seems nice so I will give the stable version a try - Maybe I can customize that to work for me.
You are happy to change to another distribution but not to upgrade your Mint. Suppose you were told that 19.x has vast improvements in the printing system and setting up your device for printing is a snap?
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Re: If Printing Services Stops - ...Just Reinstall... [UPDATE] Don't Do This

Post by RubyStone » Sun Oct 20, 2019 4:03 am

Changing is not something that I would want to do... Only if necessary. That being said: 1) I explained in the original post that I AM using 19.2; 2) I found the reason for the issue and, because it is easily avoidable, I won't need to switch but will need to reinstall to fix the issue.

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