Brother DCP-1610W

[Mercuzio]

I use Mint Cinnamon 20.2. I've installed a Brother DCP-1610W along with the driver from https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloa ... pe-625_0_1. On the desktop appears the notification "Printing" when I launch an then "Completed", but nothing really happens! I can't get any letter or document!

[pdc_2]

so you would have run the commands

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cd Downloads

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gunzip linux-brprinter-installer-2.2.3-1.gz

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sudo bash linux-brprinter-installer-2.2.3-1 DCP-1610w 

how does it connect to your computer?

[Mercuzio]

so you would have run the commands

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cd Downloads

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gunzip linux-brprinter-installer-2.2.3-1.gz

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sudo bash linux-brprinter-installer-2.2.3-1 DCP-1610w 

how does it connect to your computer?

Usb

[Mercuzio]

I've run this command
dpkg -l | grep Brother
and this is what i got
ii brscan-skey 0.3.1-2 amd64 Brother Linux scanner S-KEY tool
ii brscan4 0.4.10-1 amd64 Brother Scanner Driver
ii dcp1610wcupswrapper:i386 3.0.1-1 i386 Brother DCP-1610W CUPS wrapper driver
ii dcp1610wlpr:i386 3.0.1-1 i386 Brother DCP-1610W LPR driver
ii printer-driver-brlaser 6-1build1 amd64 printer driver for (some) Brother laser printers
ii printer-driver-ptouch 1.4.2-3 amd64 printer driver Brother P-touch label printers

[cday]

My understanding is that almost all recent, or now even not so recent, printers and scanners support driverless printing and scanning 'out of the box'.

And that Mint, from I think Mint 20.1 on, includes the software required for immediate use without any setup being required using either USB or Wi-Fi...

I am absolutely no expert on this so someone may refine what I have written, but after struggling to install the provided Linux driver for my Xerox under Mint 19 and being pointed to driverless operation, my Xerox was detected automatically and worked without any setup in Mint Cinnamon 20.1.

As far as I understand, there may for many devices be nothing to gain by installing the manufacturer's Linux driver.

You might therefore see if your Brother is displayed as a Wi-Fi source and connect to it, then check whether it is already displayed as a printer option in any application such as LibreOffice Writer from which you can print, and whether it is displayed as a scanner option in any SANE software such as Document Scanner, which I think is included in Mint 20.

[AndyMH]

This topic may help:
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=356251&p=2062513#p2062513
Install ipp-usb.

[cday]

This topic may help:
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=356251&p=2062513#p2062513
Install ipp-usb.

Is ipp-usb not installed by default in Mint 20.1?

After finding that my Xerox worked immediately using Wi-Fi, I may not have tested USB. Perhaps ipp-usb should be included?

More generally, I think that driverless printing and scanning should be better known, since almost all devices manufactured in possibly even the last 20 years support the protocol. When buying a printer people check that Linux is supported, and then follow the instructions provided to install the manufacturers driver, which possibly need some editing unless a DEB download, for example, is provided.

Maybe the Mint printing support page would benefit from placing more emphasis on it?

[AndyMH]

Is ipp-usb not installed by default in Mint 20.1?

No idea, my brother printers are networked. brian_p is the expert in this area and I was searching his posts as I vaguely remembered him troubleshooting other users problems with usb in the past. He also mentions driverless printing frequently Not 20 years, my HL4140CN (circa 2012) doesn't support it, my HL-L8260CDW does. I still install the drivers from Brother as I found not all features were supported driverless, e.g. driverless = 600x600, with the drivers installed I get 'fine print' 2400x600 on the HL-L8260CDW.

[Mercuzio]

My understanding is that almost all recent, or now even not so recent, printers and scanners support driverless printing and scanning 'out of the box'.

And that Mint, from I think Mint 20.1 on, includes the software required for immediate use without any setup being required using either USB or Wi-Fi...

I am absolutely no expert on this so someone may refine what I have written, but after struggling to install the provided Linux driver for my Xerox under Mint 19 and being pointed to driverless operation, my Xerox was detected automatically and worked without any setup in Mint Cinnamon 20.1.

As far as I understand, there may for many devices be nothing to gain by installing the manufacturer's Linux driver.

You might therefore see if your Brother is displayed as a Wi-Fi source and connect to it, then check whether it is already displayed as a printer option in any application such as LibreOffice Writer from which you can print, and whether it is displayed as a scanner option in any SANE software such as Document Scanner, which I think is included in Mint 20.

Do you rcommend to uninstall the drivers?

[Mercuzio]

This topic may help:
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=356251&p=2062513#p2062513
Install ipp-usb.

lpstat -t is confirming my printer is DCP-1610W is idle

[cday]

lpstat -t is confirming my printer is DCP-1610W is idle

I would presume that your printer is already installed then and that you should be able to print? If not, someone more experienced can no doubt help.

If you would like to check whether the Wi-Fi interface has been set up 'out of the box', look for your Brother in the list of Wi-Fi sources, connect to it, and then see if it appears as a Printer option in any program that can print, and whether it shows as a scanner option in any SANE application, such as Document Scanner, which I believe is included in Mint Cinnamon 20.2.

[brian_p]

My understanding is that almost all recent, or now even not so recent, printers and scanners support driverless printing and scanning 'out of the box'.

Let's firm that up a little. All printers and multi-function devices with AirPrint support driverless printing. AirPrint became popular with vendors about 10 years ago, so my take on "recent" is 10 years. Driverless scanning capability is a bit more complex, but let's say "recent " is 7 years ago.

And that Mint, from I think Mint 20.1 on, includes the software required for immediate use without any setup being required using either USB or Wi-Fi...

Correct, all the software is in available in Mint 20.1/20.2. But note:

• Only on wireless connections are devices automatically detected and set up.

• USB connections require ipp-usb to be installed from the archives for detection and auto-setup. This will change in the future to give ipp-usb by default. It already has become the default on Debian and Ubuntu.

I am absolutely no expert on this so someone may refine what I have written, but after struggling to install the provided Linux driver for my Xerox under Mint 19 and being pointed to driverless operation, my Xerox was detected automatically and worked without any setup in Mint Cinnamon 20.1.

As far as I understand, there may for many devices be nothing to gain by installing the manufacturer's Linux driver.

For modern devices (10/7 years) that is my belief too. Also, there isn't any future for drivers and PPDs in the plan for CUPS development. Within 4 years CUPS will not deal with them at all. This is the principal reason for distributions and users like Mercuzio to get ahead of the game.

You might therefore see if your Brother is displayed as a Wi-Fi source and connect to it, then check whether it is already displayed as a printer option in any application such as LibreOffice Writer from which you can print, and whether it is displayed as a scanner option in any SANE software such as Document Scanner, which I think is included in Mint 20.

Good advice. This Brother scanner may require sane-airscan.

[brian_p]

Is ipp-usb not installed by default in Mint 20.1?

No idea, my brother printers are networked. brian_p is the expert in this area and I was searching his posts as I vaguely remembered him troubleshooting other users problems with usb in the past. He also mentions driverless printing frequently Not 20 years, my HL4140CN (circa 2012) doesn't support it, my HL-L8260CDW does. I still install the drivers from Brother as I found not all features were supported driverless, e.g. driverless = 600x600, with the drivers installed I get 'fine print' 2400x600 on the HL-L8260CDW.

Apart from indicating above the direction CUPS is going in, I would not dream of saying the path you have chosen is the wrong one. At least you appear to have tested and thought about it. Most users install drivers with a modern printer because they always done so on Mint or another OS. You could be concerned for your HL4140CN (circa 2012). What will Brother provide you with when the inevitable happens?

Btw, can you tell the difference between 600x600 and 2400x600? How significant is it?

[cday]

The Brother DCP-1610W does not support AirPrint, must be a fairly old model...

Can I use AirPrint with my Brother machine?

[brian_p]

The Brother DCP-1610W does not support AirPrint, ...

Can I use AirPrint with my Brother machine?

Indeed. Confirmed from https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201311.

...must be a fairly old model...

Circa 2013/2014, I think. On the edge. OTOH, other vendor's machines of that age do AirPrint.

There is a slim chance of driverless printing, but Mercuzio would have to give what he gets for

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lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7

for us to make a judgement.

[brian_p]

Do you rcommend to uninstall the drivers?

Not yet. Please give the information asked for in another post. With a USB connection:

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lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7

[Mercuzio]

Do you rcommend to uninstall the drivers?

Not yet. Please give the information asked for in another post. With a USB connection:

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lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7

lpstat -t
lo scheduler è in funzione
destinazione predefinita del sistema: Brother-DCP-1610W-series
dispositivo per Brother-DCP-1610W-series: usb://Brother/DCP-1610W%20series?serial=E74229M4N415924
Brother-DCP-1610W-series sta accettando richieste da sab 25 set 2021, 16:50:42
la stampante Brother-DCP-1610W-series è inattiva. è stata abilitata da sab 25 set 2021, 16:50:42

This means the printer is idle

[Mercuzio]

The Brother DCP-1610W does not support AirPrint, ...

Can I use AirPrint with my Brother machine?

Indeed. Confirmed from https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT201311.

...must be a fairly old model...

Circa 2013/2014, I think. On the edge. OTOH, other vendor's machines of that age do AirPrint.

There is a slim chance of driverless printing, but Mercuzio would have to give what he gets for

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lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7

for us to make a judgement.

lsusb -v | grep -A 3 bInterfaceClass.*7
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get device qualifier: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get device qualifier: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
bInterfaceClass 7 Printer
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Printer
bInterfaceProtocol 2 Bidirectional
iInterface 0
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get device qualifier: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get device qualifier: Resource temporarily unavailable
can't get debug descriptor: Resource temporarily unavailable

[brian_p]

bInterfaceClass 7 Printer
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Printer
bInterfaceProtocol 2 Bidirectional
iInterface 0

This is the only output of significance and indicates the device does not do IPP-over-USB. There fore, without this facility or AirPrint, there isn't any driverless printing with it and you will have to use the Brother drivers. You appear to have them successfully installed as guided by pdc_2. Give

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lpinfo -m | grep 1610

[Mercuzio]

bInterfaceClass 7 Printer
bInterfaceSubClass 1 Printer
bInterfaceProtocol 2 Bidirectional
iInterface 0

This is the only output of significance and indicates the device does not do IPP-over-USB. There fore, without this facility or AirPrint, there isn't any driverless printing with it and you will have to use the Brother drivers. You appear to have them successfully installed as guided by pdc_2. Give

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lpinfo -m | grep 1610

out.dat: empty
-rw-rw-r-- 1 albe albe 0 set 27 19:01 out.dat
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 50666 set 16 2014 /opt/brother/Printers/DCP1610W/lpd/rawtobr3
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 20226 set 16 2014 /opt/brother/Printers/DCP1610W//cupswrapper/brcupsconfig4