Testing KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
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Testing KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Hello,
I installed KDE Plasma 5.8.7 on my Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon edition (alongside with Cinnamon - took the risk and got away with it) but I now want to force the 5.9 (or even better (?)) the 5.10 edition. Is there a way to do it?
(I suppose it would be an equivalent question to ask: Is there a way to add ppa from newer Ubuntu versions to older Ubuntu version?)
Thanks in advance
I installed KDE Plasma 5.8.7 on my Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon edition (alongside with Cinnamon - took the risk and got away with it) but I now want to force the 5.9 (or even better (?)) the 5.10 edition. Is there a way to do it?
(I suppose it would be an equivalent question to ask: Is there a way to add ppa from newer Ubuntu versions to older Ubuntu version?)
Thanks in advance
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Yeah. Worst case scenario, I'll clean-install. It's summer, so I got to find an excuse to be grumpy about.mr_raider wrote:Clearly you have no fear!
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
I Just did it - upgraded to 5.10 - works just fine! I have Linux Mint 18.2 MATE edition. Instructions below:freddodifferenizente wrote:Hello,
I installed KDE Plasma 5.8.7 on my Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon edition (alongside with Cinnamon - took the risk and got away with it) but I now want to force the 5.9 (or even better (?)) the 5.10 edition. Is there a way to do it?
1. Add Kubuntu Backports repo:
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$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
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wget -q -O - http://archive.neon.kde.org/public.key | sudo apt-key add -
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deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/release xenial main
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sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
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sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Wonder how well this would work with mint-KDE to upgrade it to 5.10?
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Think very good, as I upgraded to mint-KDE from mint-MATE first, then to 5.10.Jmthomas87 wrote:Wonder how well this would work with mint-KDE to upgrade it to 5.10?
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Works well. I upgraded my two computers running "Mint 18.2 KDE Edition" from Plasma 5.8.7 to Plasma 5.10.5Jmthomas87 wrote:Wonder how well this would work with mint-KDE to upgrade it to 5.10?
Because Mint KDE doesn't need Plasma to be installed, all the steps are similar to these described by "AlekseyK" - you do not go with:
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sudo apt install kubuntu-desktop
You can expect few problems during upgrade, however here you can find description, how to make it fast:
ORIGINAL SYSTEM: Linux Mint 18.2, KDE Edition, Plasma 5.8.7, Kernel 4.11.0-14
terminal:
$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
$ wget -q -O - http://archive.neon.kde.org/public.key | sudo apt-key add -
Add the following line to your /etc/apt/sources.list for Neon repo:
deb http://archive.neon.kde.org/release xenial main
teminal:
$ sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libpam-kwallet-common : Conflicts: pam-kwallet-init but 4:5.10.5-0neon+16.04+xenial+build38 is to be installed
terminal:
$ sudo apt purge libpam-kwallet-common
$ sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade
$ sudo apt dist-upgrade
reboot
terminal:
$ sudo apt upgrade
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/libkf5screen7_4%3a5.10.5-0neon+16.04+xenial+build42_amd64.deb
$ sudo apt purge libkf5screen-bin
$ sudo apt upgrade
reboot
terminal:
$ sudo apt autoremove
$ sudo apt install libpam-kwallet-common
$ sudo apt upgrade
check with Update Manager
All is good !!!
FINAL SYSTEM INFO: Linux Mint 18.2, KDE Edition, Plasma 5.10.5, Kernel 4.11.0-14
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Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!AlekseyK wrote: I Just did it - upgraded to 5.10 - works just fine! I have Linux Mint 18.2 MATE edition. Instructions below:
For those using Mint KDE, don't try this at home.
"There is, ultimately, only one truth -- cogito, ergo sum -- everything else is an assumption." - Me, my swansong.
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
If you don't try you will never get any results It's better to try it at home than on your boss's computer.catweazel wrote: Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!
For those using Mint KDE, don't try this at home.
Nothing is danger here, even these 30 minutes you have to watch your screen... you can drink good coffee in the meantime !
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
It is ridiculous, nothing is danger here - that is true!
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Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Well, jurek ogorek and AlekseyK, go ahead. Be my guest. Install KDE 5.10 over your Mint KDE installation. Please don't come crying that you've b0rked your Mint.
"There is, ultimately, only one truth -- cogito, ergo sum -- everything else is an assumption." - Me, my swansong.
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Mint is OK!catweazel wrote:Well, jurek ogorek and AlekseyK, go ahead. Be my guest. Install KDE 5.10 over your Mint KDE installation. Please don't come crying that you've b0rked your Mint.
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Catweazel,catweazel wrote:Well, jurek ogorek and AlekseyK, go ahead. Be my guest. Install KDE 5.10 over your Mint KDE installation. Please don't come crying that you've b0rked your Mint.
I don't get it... I wrote clearly that TWO my MINT 18.2 KDE computers were successfully updated from Plasma 5.8 to Plasma 5.10.
No tears so far.
So.. why are you still so skeptical?
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Beat me to it.catweazel wrote:Danger, Will Robinson! Danger!AlekseyK wrote: I Just did it - upgraded to 5.10 - works just fine! I have Linux Mint 18.2 MATE edition. Instructions below:
For those using Mint KDE, don't try this at home.
In the future, please refrain from saying it works and posting instructions before you've adequately tested it. You just installed it, you don't actually know if it really works or not.
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong - H. L. Mencken
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Kidding?! Works from July!Hoser Rob wrote:Beat me to it.
In the future, please refrain from saying it works and posting instructions before you've adequately tested it. You just installed it, you don't actually know if it really works or not.
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Hi guys,
I was curious if Plasma 5.10 can be easily installed / upgraded on various Linux systems.
Last posts showed that some people had issues or were not satisfied after upgrading to Plasma 5.10.
Here you have my opinion (just opinion, do not treat it as solution for the problems):
Linux Mint 18.2 KDE Plasma 5.8 - I updated it to Plasma 5.10.5 and found NO issues at all after 4 weeks of everyday use.
Linux Ubuntu 17.04 - I installed Plasma 5.10.5 and found NO issues at all after 5 days of everyday use.
Linux Mint 18.2 MATE - I installed Plasma 5.10.5 and found NO issues at all after 2 days. I even removed MATE Desktop for tests, and still all worked perfectly. (this one I did to see and prove myself that Plasma 5.10 can be installed on every edition)
For me all works great.
Network - OK (wired, wifi)
VPN - OK
Office apps - OK
Printing - OK
System Updates - OK
Installing / compiling, removing - OK
Music, Video - OK
I did not test GAMES... I'm not gaming person, so cannot say anything about it
Please share your opinions or any issues you experience with Plasma 5.10. This forum is to help each other and make Mint the best system !!!
I was curious if Plasma 5.10 can be easily installed / upgraded on various Linux systems.
Last posts showed that some people had issues or were not satisfied after upgrading to Plasma 5.10.
Here you have my opinion (just opinion, do not treat it as solution for the problems):
Linux Mint 18.2 KDE Plasma 5.8 - I updated it to Plasma 5.10.5 and found NO issues at all after 4 weeks of everyday use.
Linux Ubuntu 17.04 - I installed Plasma 5.10.5 and found NO issues at all after 5 days of everyday use.
Linux Mint 18.2 MATE - I installed Plasma 5.10.5 and found NO issues at all after 2 days. I even removed MATE Desktop for tests, and still all worked perfectly. (this one I did to see and prove myself that Plasma 5.10 can be installed on every edition)
For me all works great.
Network - OK (wired, wifi)
VPN - OK
Office apps - OK
Printing - OK
System Updates - OK
Installing / compiling, removing - OK
Music, Video - OK
I did not test GAMES... I'm not gaming person, so cannot say anything about it
Please share your opinions or any issues you experience with Plasma 5.10. This forum is to help each other and make Mint the best system !!!
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
I use Mint KDE daily, but I keep an install of KDE NEON in vbox for playing around. I found 5.10 to be quite nice and mature. I look forward to Mint 19.
FYI I never belived the FUD about KDE/plasma being buggy. Plasma and Kwin are far more stable than the GTK DEs.
FYI I never belived the FUD about KDE/plasma being buggy. Plasma and Kwin are far more stable than the GTK DEs.
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Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
That is precisely the point I was making with my warning...jurek ogorek wrote:Last posts showed that some people had issues or were not satisfied after upgrading to Plasma 5.10.
That contradicts your first statement. The point is, we shouldn't post things that can bork people's systems without adding appropriate warnings.This forum is to help each other and make Mint the best system !!!
"There is, ultimately, only one truth -- cogito, ergo sum -- everything else is an assumption." - Me, my swansong.
Re: KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
Catweazel,
I'm sorry... but you sound like a Windows OS lover
Nobody here posted anything what was not tested or "bork people's systems".
If you have experienced any problems using Plasma 5.10, just tell us about it. So far you only made warnings without any clear messages !
I joined this forum to talk about Linux Mint, maybe learn something new...
maybe it's time to do this:
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Espero que tenga una buena noche
I'm sorry... but you sound like a Windows OS lover
Nobody here posted anything what was not tested or "bork people's systems".
If you have experienced any problems using Plasma 5.10, just tell us about it. So far you only made warnings without any clear messages !
I joined this forum to talk about Linux Mint, maybe learn something new...
maybe it's time to do this:
and finish this topic.If your problem is fixed, please mark your thread as [SOLVED] by editing the title of the first message in the thread.
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Espero que tenga una buena noche
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Re: Testing KDE 5.9/ KDE 5.10 in Linux Mint 18.2 "Sonya"
I've updated the topic title to make more clear this is a "do this at your own risk" kind of thing.
While some of you have commented it works fine for you for a few weeks, you don't know what programs other people have on their computers that use the KDE libraries (programs that may not be in the upgrade set you installed). Upgrading the KDE libraries could break something in programs (at least the versions installed) that use these libraries and which haven't been compiled for or tested with those newer library versions. Bugs happen.
We're not saying this is guaranteed to cause issues, we're saying all the KDE libraries using programs from the repositories were tested for months to work well with the KDE libraries versions from the repositories. Upgrading the KDE libraries versions and just testing it with the programs you use isn't a substitute for that testing. Hence the request to put a warning of the "do this at your own risk" kind.
As OP hasn't been here for weeks, closing this topic.
So this was a pretty decent warning. Don't try this at home unless you would be happy to reinstall Linux Mint if something does break for you.freddodifferenizente wrote:Worst case scenario, I'll clean-install. It's summer, so I got to find an excuse to be grumpy about.
While some of you have commented it works fine for you for a few weeks, you don't know what programs other people have on their computers that use the KDE libraries (programs that may not be in the upgrade set you installed). Upgrading the KDE libraries could break something in programs (at least the versions installed) that use these libraries and which haven't been compiled for or tested with those newer library versions. Bugs happen.
We're not saying this is guaranteed to cause issues, we're saying all the KDE libraries using programs from the repositories were tested for months to work well with the KDE libraries versions from the repositories. Upgrading the KDE libraries versions and just testing it with the programs you use isn't a substitute for that testing. Hence the request to put a warning of the "do this at your own risk" kind.
As OP hasn't been here for weeks, closing this topic.