Preparing for Mint to drop the KDE distro

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Re: Preparing for Mint to drop the KDE distro

Post by famewolf » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:58 am

I think they are referring to the "common belief" that ubuntu users are "the windows users who came to linux" or "the ones who can't handle a real distro" etc. Ubuntu also is the most popular and most widely supported via 3rd parties (ie almost everyone provides a .deb package if they provide a linux version at all).


I actually came to ubuntu variants (all of the following: Mint, LXLE, Bodhi, ) from opensuse after being on it for 10+ years (before that all sorts of early distro's some which still exist(redhat) and some that don't (Yellow dog linux anyone?. oracles previous linux distro...) strictly because I got tired of gscan2pdf being unavailable every other distro version. Typically it was a user provided copy via their equivalent to ppa's and the dependencies were not always setup correctly or just flat out could not be FOUND.

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Re: Preparing for Mint to drop the KDE distro

Post by Retic1959 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:19 am

BG405 wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:01 am
I've been giving Manjaro a spin on my Acer D255E since I installed it late Friday night. Set up with a separate /DATA partition, containing a (fairly) recent backup of the LM17.3 KDE /home partition, brought it up to date last night. Quite impressed with it so far although there's a few teething problems to deal with.

Installed some packages I need, using pacman and yaourt including Waterfox which when synced incorporated all my add-ons. Waterfox shows Firefox in the titlebar - it does this on the other Acer with LM18.3 KDE, too - although with the Waterfox icon on both systems. It also didn't import the saved sessions, same as with the latter; this worked flawlessly on my Linux Mint 17.3 Cinnamon installation on the Dell Inspiron 1525. It does work with all the add-ons from FFv<57 and brings up the Waterfox homepage by default, suggesting it is actually indeed Waterfox, along with accidental FF browser launches missing the settings providing a fairly positive indication. However, having a newly-installed browser mis-identifying itself is unsettling. Not sure setting default browser will correct this if Waterfox "thinks" it is Firefox incl. settings. Will this just launch Firefox instead? Shouldn't be an issue though as profile directories are separate now?

VirtualBox needs a bit more work to get it going,

Overall it seems to work well, quite fast & responsive. Seems much quicker to respond than LM17.3 KDE 32-bit & using a significantly smaller memory footprint despite being 64-bit. The Manjaro Forums seem friendly and helpful too, even the thread linked above. It is likely my replacement OS for this computer .. plus no more reinstalls due to it being a rolling release, which suits me in this case.

Conclusion:
Manjaro + KDE, for me, looks like the best solution for my portable workhorse. It'll always be up-to-date without any significant downtime.

Posted from Manjaro installation.
I can't help you with the Waterfox situation but as far as Virtualbox no problem . You need to install the host and guest modules for the Kernel you're running seperately . Go in to Octopi and search for virtualbox and scroll through the results and you'll see them listed , install them , reboot and Manjaro will add the modules to the kernel and virtualbox will be up and running . Btw I would recommend that you install a different kernel or two after that . I usually keep the recommended Lts as well as the latest installed in case of regressions it's good to have a fallback . I find it's easier to fallback in Manjaro than Mint , I have to switch from Nvidia drivers to open source drivers in Mint before I can boot in to an older kernel . Not so in Manjaro .
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Re: Preparing for Mint to drop the KDE distro

Post by Retic1959 » Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:26 am

famewolf wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:58 am
I think they are referring to the "common belief" that ubuntu users are "the windows users who came to linux" or "the ones who can't handle a real distro" etc. Ubuntu also is the most popular and most widely supported via 3rd parties (ie almost everyone provides a .deb package if they provide a linux version at all).


I actually came to ubuntu variants (all of the following: Mint, LXLE, Bodhi, ) from opensuse after being on it for 10+ years (before that all sorts of early distro's some which still exist(redhat) and some that don't (Yellow dog linux anyone?. oracles previous linux distro...) strictly because I got tired of gscan2pdf being unavailable every other distro version. Typically it was a user provided copy via their equivalent to ppa's and the dependencies were not always setup correctly or just flat out could not be FOUND.
Thanks for the info . I haven't seen much of that on Manjaro's forum , there are a fair number of Mint users there as well . I guess I fit that stereotype somewhat with Mint being my first linux distro . Long time computer user though , started with a Commodore Vic-20 and basic and went through every version of Dos and Windoze until the atrocity that is Windoze 10 pushed me over the edge and in to linux .

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Re: Preparing for Mint to drop the KDE distro

Post by BG405 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:22 pm

Retic1959 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:19 am
as far as Virtualbox no problem . You need to install the host and guest modules for the Kernel you're running seperately . Go in to Octopi and search for virtualbox and scroll through the results and you'll see them listed , install them , reboot and Manjaro will add the modules to the kernel and virtualbox will be up and running
Thanks for that advice. I did get VirtualBox running although I'd done the installation using Pacman (CLI). Will look at the options in Octopi.

The issue is that the kernel I'm running (4.14 LTS) is complaining that KVM is disabled therefore KVM itself does not work and VirtualBox 5.2.x will not create (or run existing) 64-bit VMs. The CPU supports KVM and my Mint 17.3 KDE 32-Bit installation (also with latest available, probably same version, of VB) DOES allow creation and running of 64-Bit VMs. This is a MAJOR hurdle & hopefully a different kernel (4.4.x?) will solve this. I do not have access to advanced BIOS settings on this Acer D255E. But it MUST be enabled in BIOS for it to work in Mint? Maybe need to try Mint 18.3 KDE 64-Bit & see if that works?

I only got SSH working properly by copying a manually-edited configuration file from one of my Mint systems; still haven't gotten shared directories to show up on the network via SAMBA. TBC .. :wink:
Dell Inspiron 1525 - LM17.3 CE 64-------------------Acer D255E 2GB - Manjaro KDE, LM17.3 KDE 32
Toshiba NB305 - LM17.3 Xfce 32---------------------K7S5A AMD 1.2GHz - LM17.3 Xfce 32 & WinXP-Pro
Acer Aspire E11 ES1-111M - LM18.2 KDE 64 ----Dell PII 350 64MB - Puppy 4.3 & Win98-SE

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Re: Preparing for Mint to drop the KDE distro

Post by Retic1959 » Tue Jun 19, 2018 4:03 pm

BG405 wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:22 pm
Retic1959 wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 11:19 am
as far as Virtualbox no problem . You need to install the host and guest modules for the Kernel you're running seperately . Go in to Octopi and search for virtualbox and scroll through the results and you'll see them listed , install them , reboot and Manjaro will add the modules to the kernel and virtualbox will be up and running
Thanks for that advice. I did get VirtualBox running although I'd done the installation using Pacman (CLI). Will look at the options in Octopi.

The issue is that the kernel I'm running (4.14 LTS) is complaining that KVM is disabled therefore KVM itself does not work and VirtualBox 5.2.x will not create (or run existing) 64-bit VMs. The CPU supports KVM and my Mint 17.3 KDE 32-Bit installation (also with latest available, probably same version, of VB) DOES allow creation and running of 64-Bit VMs. This is a MAJOR hurdle & hopefully a different kernel (4.4.x?) will solve this. I do not have access to advanced BIOS settings on this Acer D255E. But it MUST be enabled in BIOS for it to work in Mint? Maybe need to try Mint 18.3 KDE 64-Bit & see if that works?

I only got SSH working properly by copying a manually-edited configuration file from one of my Mint systems; still haven't gotten shared directories to show up on the network via SAMBA. TBC .. :wink:
I haven't tried with 4.14 , it's working flawlessly with 4.17 right now , I'll fallback to 4.14 later and add the modules for it and see what happens . You might want to remove it and reinstall through Octopi and see if that works . Ok , I fellback to 4.14 , installed the host and guest modules for that kernel rebooted and Houston , we have a problem . Don't know if the issue is with the kernel or the packages I installed for that kernel . Rebooted back to 4.17 and all is well again . Hopefully going to 4.17 and adding the modules for it will clear up your problem , might help with Samba as well .

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