Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go in 18.3?[Solved]

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Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go in 18.3?[Solved]

Post by Tuxkid » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:48 am

The keyboard shortcuts have been largely redesigned in LM 18.x c.f. LM17.x and I can't find many that I liked to use. In particular, I use 'raise window' and 'lower window'. I like the active window to stay behind by default -- particularly if it's a konsole window -- and raised when I want it, so I like those shortcuts.

Have they been left out of the KDE 5.8.9 or have they moved somewhere I didn't think to look?
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Re: Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go from 18.3?

Post by xenopeek » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:09 pm

Help me out here; which Linux Mint version are you on?
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Re: Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go from 18.3?

Post by Tuxkid » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:00 pm

xenopeek wrote:
Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:09 pm
Help me out here; which Linux Mint version are you on?
I'm getting used to Linux Mint 18.3, trying to get the shortcuts I used in 17.3 to work. But I can't work out where or if they are still part of KDE 5.x

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Re: Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go in 18.3?

Post by xenopeek » Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:45 am

Alt + middle mouse button is toggle raise/lower (configured as a Window Action). You can configure other Actions in Window Manager Settings (accessible from the window menu > More Actions).

I can't make heads or tails of KDE keyboard shortcuts; why isn't there a list of window manager keyboard shortcuts like there are on other DEs? Perhaps somebody else can clarify on that.
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Re: Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go in 18.3?

Post by Tuxkid » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:12 am

xenopeek wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:45 am
Alt + middle mouse button is toggle raise/lower (configured as a Window Action). You can configure other Actions in Window Manager Settings (accessible from the window menu > More Actions).
That doesn't work on my installation. However, I fleetingly found a place where I could set shortcuts under various categories including Kwin where I set that particular shortcut. It was fleeting, and I've not found it again, but at least for that one, I have the shortcut I like.
I can't make heads or tails of KDE keyboard shortcuts; why isn't there a list of window manager keyboard shortcuts like there are on other DEs? Perhaps somebody else can clarify on that.
It gets curiouser and curiouser the more I look.

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Re: Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go in 18.3?

Post by AZgl1500 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:15 am

Never use KDE, but 18.3 Cinnamon has all of the standard keyboard shortcuts that were/are popular in the Windows OS....

IMO, all shortcuts should be standard in all operating systems...
it should not matter what is under the keyboard, if you use Alt-I it should always mean "Italics"

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Re: Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go in 18.3?

Post by thunder422 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:09 am

The shortcuts are under essentially the same place in 18.3 (KDE 5.8.9) as in 17.3 (KDE 4.14.2), almost.

Under System Settings, Workspace/Shortcuts, and on the Global Shortcuts page (with KDE 4 its Common Appearance and Behavior/Shortcuts and Gestures). Raise and Lower Window are under KWin (Other Shortcuts). They were easier to find on KDE 5 than with KDE 4 where you had to select KWin on the KDE component dropdown (on KDE 5 all of the "components" are visible, not accessed by a drop down).
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(with Windows XP, Windows 10, and Mint 18.3 KDE VMs on VirtualBox)

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Re: Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go in 18.3?

Post by Tuxkid » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:10 am

thunder422 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:09 am
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Under System Settings, Workspace/Shortcuts, and on the Global Shortcuts page (with KDE 4 its Common Appearance and Behavior/Shortcuts and Gestures). Raise and Lower Window are under KWin (Other Shortcuts). They were easier to find on KDE 5 than with KDE 4 where you had to select KWin on the KDE component dropdown (on KDE 5 all of the "components" are visible, not accessed by a drop down).
Thank you for that. I couldn't see for looking, as they say. And yes, it is a better layout.

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Re: Where did the rest of the keyboard shortcuts go in 18.3?

Post by Tuxkid » Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:19 am

AZgl1500 wrote:
Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:15 am
Never use KDE, but 18.3 Cinnamon has all of the standard keyboard shortcuts that were/are popular in the Windows OS....
IMHO, Windows shortcuts are far too limited for my liking of customizing. It doesn't do what KDE allows so there can't be a shortcut for it
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IMO, all shortcuts should be standard in all operating systems...
it should not matter what is under the keyboard, if you use Alt-I it should always mean "Italics"
Who would devise those standards?

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