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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:40 pm
by roshanpius
enigma wrote:Hello

I'll give you my recent experiences with KDE WI-FI.

My wife's machine developed a problem so I thought it was time to update her LTS so I downloaded and installed a FEW new distros and absolutely none with one exception worked on her WI-FI.

Her WI-FI has been working for years. It is a basic D-Link unit. It works.

I tried Kubuntu 9.10 and Ubuntu 9.10. Neither worked. I tried some current LiveCD KDE 3.5 and 4 versions but no luck.

The only distro that works is OpenSUSE 11.2. The reason is that during the install the installer asked whether the user wants to use KNetworkManager. I answered No and now she has a fully functional WI-FI.

It maybe a good idea to offer the user the same option in Mint KDE. I don't know what OpenSUSE uses in place of KNetworkManager maybe WICD but it works.

Hope this helps.
Actually i'm currently using the default KnetworkManager in OpenSuse 11.2 and i've had no problems for connecting with WIFI. Whereas in kubuntu i frequently had wifi disconnections. So there is something to do with distro as well as KDE4.
Actually OpenSuse 11.2 is the best KDE 4 distro i've used so far.
It seems like a lot of work has gone into polishing the vanilla KDE4. Because i always had a lot of "Plasma" crashes in all the other KDE4 distros i've used.

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:01 pm
by enigma
Hello

My previous post made the point only that OpenSUSE 11.2's none KNetworkManager mode worked for our WI-FI installation when other distros that I tried did not.

I did not try OpenSUSE 11.2 with KNetworkManager.

I am not that brave . . . :D

Thanks

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:02 pm
by warriorpoet
Husse wrote:I have removed some posts that turned this topic into a flame war
Be warned legendkiller and warriorpoet - I'll remove you too if I see more stupidities from you
There were some uncalled for remarks by others too, but nothing untolerable
On the subject of release - Boo is still having problems to get a decent wifi working - knetwork manager seems unfit
That's holding a release back now
Husse,

Any news on what specifically is giving Boo trouble? knetwork manager seems to work fine for me (actually, never had a problem with it), but seems a sore point for many others. Any config info?

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:14 pm
by warriorpoet
aelfinn wrote:
Husse wrote:Clem is the only one in the Mint team to get paid (yet :))
The rest of us work on Mint in our spare time
And we love you for that! :)
Agreed.

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:32 pm
by holastickboy
May I ask, what stops people from installing standard Linux Mint 8, and then just apt-getting KDE? I just did that, and have KDE 4.3.2 running on my machine just fine, and it's a x64 version too? Might be something to think about for those who are so impatient in their waiting.

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:31 pm
by blazemore
The KDE CE will have a lot of specific fixes for the latest KDE.

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:23 am
by roshanpius
holastickboy wrote:May I ask, what stops people from installing standard Linux Mint 8, and then just apt-getting KDE? I just did that, and have KDE 4.3.2 running on my machine just fine, and it's a x64 version too? Might be something to think about for those who are so impatient in their waiting.
If u do that you are going to end up with Kubuntu 9.10 and not Linux Mint KDE 8. That's the reason why all of us are waiting for the Linux Mint version of the Kubuntu.
The Mint version will have some specific Mint customisations to the look-n-feel to the default Kubuntu installation (and some mint tools?), as well as update all the packages to the latest, which would have fixed some of the annoying issues which were there when kubuntu 9.10 was released.

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:14 pm
by blazemore
Can I ask Boo a question:
When the RC is available, through what channel will you let us know?
Here? Twitter?

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:46 pm
by arjay
I agree with other posters - I have had nothing but problems with knetworkmanager ever since KDE 4 first came out. It was fine in KDE 3.5. It is supposed to be fixed now but clearly isn't: just look at the complaints around the forums.

I have removed it from my kubuntu 9.10 PC, my mint + KDE PC and my simplymepis + KDE machine, and use wicd instead. wicd seems to work perfectly, does what I want - no dramas.

I would settle for mint 8 kde with wicd substituted (or anything else come to that!) After all, it is an RC and knetwork manager could follow later when Boo gets it working OK.

I am in the position of waiting for mint, so I can install it on an old notebook for a friend who wants to try linux. At the moment it is sitting in my workshop with kubuntu 9.10 on it, but I am resisting handing it over as I would rather he started on Mint. I don't like Gnome (never have although I used it while KDE 4 was so awful). My friend keeps badgering me so I am hoping that mint kde is just "days away"!

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:57 pm
by blazemore
I'm in the same situation. I'm going to install Linux on my neighbour's PC but I'm waiting for a release candidate of Mint 8 KDE!

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:27 pm
by Boo
I think the iso that is being tested now will be the rc.
You will hear via the normal forum blog posts but usually someone finds it on a mirror before...

on networking i have installed network-manager-gnome and it is the defaut.

I will look into wicd since my wireless is a bit flaky still.

Boo

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:30 pm
by arjay
Boo wrote: on networking i have installed network-manager-gnome and it is the default.

I will look into wicd since my wireless is a bit flaky still.

Boo
Good stuff Boo - you're the Man

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:51 am
by blazemore
So does that mean it uses nm-applet?
If so I love you.

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:52 pm
by blazemore
Which mirror will it be uploaded to first?

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:00 pm
by Matt S.
I was thinking it would be here first http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/linuxmint.com/

Correct me if I'm wrong?

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:06 pm
by arjay
Matt S. wrote:I was thinking it would be here first http://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/linuxmint.com/

Correct me if I'm wrong?

How would we know? Your post seems to have been enough to jam the lines! Can't even open the link - it times out..........

RJ

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:23 am
by blazemore
You have absolutely no right to say that.
These people give up their free time to code for this project, and you have no right to demand a particular standard or release schedule.
If you're not happy with it when it comes out, return it to these forums for a full refund.

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:48 am
by markcynt
Image

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:33 pm
by gravelbay
markcynt wrote:Image
That''s a cool picture Mark!! And a good point.

Re: Helena KDE CE update

Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:15 pm
by blazemore
Alright point taken.