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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by kage » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:26 am

whoooohooo
that would be a christmas present!!!

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by midas » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:28 pm

For me too!!

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by KeithW » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:16 pm

Boo wrote:So where is Mint 8 KDE CE upto I hear you ask.
I have been spending alot of time testing and hoping Ubuntu would fix some of the installer problems of 9.10.
I have not been all that impressed with the installation of 9.10, I can not install any 9.10 release above the beta on my development system, it would not also install on my mythtvbox
The install problems are to do with dmraid and ubiquity and multiple disks an even single disks.
I expected Ubuntu to respin a 9.10.1 due to these problems but that has not happened yet.

Apart from the install problems, KDE is great, the list of apps is final.
There is a new Mint KDE logo so I have to swap that in a few places, icons and wallpapers, but this is harder than it sounds and im no gimp/inkscape master, or apprentice even.
Generally all artwork changes have to be done, usplash, kdm etc.

Im also changing the method of some changes to use the new mintSystem changes system instead of packages and hacks.

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I'm having the same problem installing Karmic on a system with a raid capable HD controller i.e. ubiquity partitioner doesn't see the disks. I've had discussions with quite a few others regarding this issue and I'm following a number of bug report for 9.10 but it doesn't look like it's going to be fixed any time soon. Note I also get this installing Helena.

Good news is that there is a simple work around. Fire up the live CD for the version of Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Mint 9.10 you want to install. Then use synaptic/aptitude/dpkg/etc to remove the dmraid package (and associated library libdmraid) then invoke the installer from the live system. It should install fine, that is the partitioner should see the disks. I've used this trick successfully with Karmic (Gnome & KDE) and Helena.

Must admit I've been a dedicated Gnome user for the past few years but I'm not happy with this latest release so I'm re-visiting KDE and quite like what I see. A colleague pointed me in the direction of mint when I was moaning about Karmic. So I'm quite eagerly looking forward to the KDE version of Helena.

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by gravelbay » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:39 pm

I haven't found anything by searching, so I guess I'll just ask. Is it safe to assume that, since there was not a Mint 7 x64 KDE release that there will also not be a KDE community release for Mint 8 x64?

The M8 x64 that I'm running now seems to be rock solid, but I prefer KDE overall. (Even though Gnome has some nice features too.) If there will not be a KDE for x64, I'll quit waiting around and go ahead &install KDE on my Gnome installation. I just would have liked to regain the integration that seemed so elegant in Mint 7 KDE.

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by Sheepeh » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:21 am

http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 01#p214028

Boo's said that once the 32 bit one is out the door, he'll get cracking on a 64 bit one. At least, that's the plan, right now.

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by gravelbay » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:03 am

Sheepeh wrote:http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.p ... 01#p214028

Boo's said that once the 32 bit one is out the door, he'll get cracking on a 64 bit one. At least, that's the plan, right now.
That would be fantastic!! Thanks.

Yay, Boo. :D
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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by bobcollard » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:34 am

gravelbay wrote:I haven't found anything by searching, so I guess I'll just ask. Is it safe to assume that, since there was not a Mint 7 x64 KDE release that there will also not be a KDE community release for Mint 8 x64?

The M8 x64 that I'm running now seems to be rock solid, but I prefer KDE overall. (Even though Gnome has some nice features too.) If there will not be a KDE for x64, I'll quit waiting around and go ahead &install KDE on my Gnome installation. I just would have liked to regain the integration that seemed so elegant in Mint 7 KDE.

Gold plated "attaboys" to everyone involved in these Mint projects. Well done!!
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I would caution you on adding KDE to your x64 version of Mint 8, mine crashed and I had to start from scratch, luckily I always backup daily. There is a reason they are working so hard to make a version to work with Mint, there are some incompatibilities in KDE alone.
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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by gravelbay » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:10 pm

Thanks Bob. I read that too, so I'm holding off and eagerly awaiting the KDE x64 version.
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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by HaTeMe » Wed Dec 23, 2009 12:42 pm

Edit: *misunderstood your Comment* :cry:

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by gravelbay » Wed Dec 23, 2009 7:50 pm

gravelbay wrote:Thanks Bob. I read that too, so I'm holding off and eagerly awaiting the KDE x64 version.
Actually, now that I'm getting more used to Gnome and now have Dolphin and some other tools I prefer, I don't know that it would be worth the work to go back to KDE. I guess I'll wait till the KDE x64 release comes out and see what others think about it. I work about 50-60 hours a week and Mint is my work and home computer, so I can't be changing OS's on a whim. But it sure is fun. :lol:
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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by bobcollard » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:21 pm

Boo, this may sound a bit silly, BUT, Instead of going through every line of code in Kubuntu, both 32 bit and 64 bit, wouldn't it be easier to take something like the KDE Live CD and make that work for us. Then people would have KDE almost at the time of the next release of Linux Mint with a choice of Gnome or KDE. I'm not a programmer and I have no idea of the problems you guys go through, but, I do know we appreciate everything you do. Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year.
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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by Boo » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:03 am

It is close now everyone.
I hope it gets released before new year. (someone will find it on a mirror before the release message.)

Most should be happy to know that all updates are applied including the kernel.
You can get further updates to some packages by enabling the removed repo.

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by tonyric » Sat Dec 26, 2009 10:35 am

gravelbay wrote:
gravelbay wrote:Thanks Bob. I read that too, so I'm holding off and eagerly awaiting the KDE x64 version.
Actually, now that I'm getting more used to Gnome and now have Dolphin and some other tools I prefer, I don't know that it would be worth the work to go back to KDE. I guess I'll wait till the KDE x64 release comes out and see what others think about it. I work about 50-60 hours a week and Mint is my work and home computer, so I can't be changing OS's on a whim. But it sure is fun. :lol:
My only real problem with Gnome after using it for about a year at work and a couple months at home is it is too flat in appearance and requires a LOT of work to look good.
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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by aelfinn » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:18 pm

Boo wrote:It is close now everyone.
I hope it gets released before new year.
That's fantastic news. Thanks very much indeed, Boo. This is hugely appreciated, what with working through the holiday and all. :)

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by gravelbay » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:25 pm

tonyric wrote:
gravelbay wrote:
gravelbay wrote:Thanks Bob. I read that too, so I'm holding off and eagerly awaiting the KDE x64 version.
Actually, now that I'm getting more used to Gnome and now have Dolphin and some other tools I prefer, I don't know that it would be worth the work to go back to KDE. I guess I'll wait till the KDE x64 release comes out and see what others think about it. I work about 50-60 hours a week and Mint is my work and home computer, so I can't be changing OS's on a whim. But it sure is fun. :lol:
My only real problem with Gnome after using it for about a year at work and a couple months at home is it is too flat in appearance and requires a LOT of work to look good.
True for me too. I probably spent way too much time on looks, but I think I spent the most time on ease of use issues. AWN was a big help in both regards, but has a few quirks that make it less than perfect, but it's still helpful to me now that I know how to keep it out of the way, but have it when I'm ready for it.
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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by pug » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:30 pm

Are there any Mint KDE CE Betas people can try out before the RC or the final release? I've done a bit of looking and I can't seem to find any. And if not does anyone think it might be a useful thing to have as it would allow people the opportunity to give feedback and search out potential bugs before it hits the general populace as a full blown release? Of course it also gives people like me the chance to try out the latest and greatest more quickly, warts and all, and I for one am certainly willing to take my chances on a beta release for a home desktop.

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by tonyric » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:39 pm

gravelbay wrote: True for me too. I probably spent way too much time on looks, but I think I spent the most time on ease of use issues. AWN was a big help in both regards, but has a few quirks that make it less than perfect, but it's still helpful to me now that I know how to keep it out of the way, but have it when I'm ready for it.
I am not a lover of AWN (now, I have not used it in a year but it was very unstable for me), OTOH I love the new plasma desktop, it takes me back to my OS/2 days albeit much better looking where everything in the desktop experience is flexible and changeable. I want to use plasma but kubuntu itself just sucks for me, OpenSuSE and Mandriva are too much of a paradigm shift for me (going back to RPM based desktops) and the other debian based distros are not providing a cohesive user experience. At this point in time Mint is all I wish to work with because it just works.
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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by gravelbay » Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:57 pm

tonyric wrote:
gravelbay wrote: True for me too. I probably spent way too much time on looks, but I think I spent the most time on ease of use issues. AWN was a big help in both regards, but has a few quirks that make it less than perfect, but it's still helpful to me now that I know how to keep it out of the way, but have it when I'm ready for it.
I am not a lover of AWN (now, I have not used it in a year but it was very unstable for me), OTOH I love the new plasma desktop, it takes me back to my OS/2 days albeit much better looking where everything in the desktop experience is flexible and changeable. I want to use plasma but kubuntu itself just sucks for me, OpenSuSE and Mandriva are too much of a paradigm shift for me (going back to RPM based desktops) and the other debian based distros are not providing a cohesive user experience. At this point in time Mint is all I wish to work with because it just works.
I can't say I'm a great fan of AWN either. It does have some quirks, but it's been stable and a bit of a time saver for me. I still prefer KDE. But I never did really get used to Plasma. I like having stuff in a tool bar where I can launch stuff w/o going to the desktop.

I "grew up" using OpenSUSE (using 10.3 - 11.1), and I used Mandriva for a while on my laptop, so the RPM system is very familiar to me and it matured a lot in the years I used it. But the deb system does seem to be a little smoother, imho. I keep changing my mind about switching to the KDE release when it comes out in 64-bit. :? Now that I've moved /Home to its own drive, I am leaning more toward installing it when it's available.
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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by Shaine » Sun Dec 27, 2009 8:45 pm

Hi, I have Gloria KDE running nicely on a 4 year old Sony Vaio, thanks :) All the compiz fusion effects were fine initially but after a couple reboots "rotate cube" initiates only the compiz logo on screen. It is enabled and virtuals set to 4 and Hardware doesn't list a graphics driver (must be kernal default like openGL?). Can someone point me to ensuring the correct ati graphics driver unless I'm missing something simple?

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Re: Helena KDE CE update

Post by Boo » Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:31 pm

This is not a general chat thread, it is meant for me to update everyone on the progress of Helena KDE.

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