xcfe should come with hardinfo

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phill1978
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xcfe should come with hardinfo

Post by phill1978 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:06 pm

there is no full system information utility in mint 15 xcfe?

so you cant look at a full hardware roster and what drivers are running.

hardinfo is an exellent utility for this. it should be included :)
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Re: xcfe should come with hardinfo

Post by cwsnyder » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:23 pm

hardinfo, inxi, and other system information packages are available in the repositories. IMO, there is no reason to add them to the default packages and 'confuse' the n00bs.
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Re: xcfe should come with hardinfo

Post by MtnDewManiac » Mon Jul 08, 2013 1:13 am

Confuse the newbies?

I think Hardinfo was the first linux app I ever ran.

Not only should it - or another comparable app - be included by default in every version of every distro, there should be a big multicolored impossible to miss notice during the installation process of each distro telling people how to find and run the thing.

It wouldn't hurt to have a second, smaller - but also impossible to miss - notice telling users that whenever they post to forums like this one, they should state the full name of the distro that they are using, such as "Mint 14 Xfce 32-bit" or "Mint 15 Cinnamon 64-bit" instead of "Mint."

Along with Hardinfo and the ability to state what they are running, it would be helpful if every distro had a menu item for "Things People Will Expect to Know When I Ask for Support (and How to Find Them)" - I could use that one, myself :roll: .

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Re: xcfe should come with hardinfo

Post by mimix » Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:26 pm

Agreed completely. The focus should be on the end-user, so the packages should reflect that (such as including hardinfo and other user-friendly interfaces) not developers and such (removing java would be a must for instance).
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Re: xcfe should come with hardinfo

Post by aac74 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 4:42 am

Yep hardinfo should be there as standard. Like it is on windows and mac !
Catfish too. So you can search for files !
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Re: xcfe should come with hardinfo

Post by aac74 » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:17 am

Also if mint is going to include Zeitgeist services (and auto start them) by default (I assume this is for maximum compatibility with ubuntu and gnome) it would make sense to include (but not necessarily auto start) an app like synapse (only uses about 12mb of ram) by default that makes use of Zeitgeist.
Otherwise you are just using up resources (about 6mb of ram ?) for no user benefit ?

Good to see that gnome 'users and groups' tool has been included as default.
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