Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

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Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by slumbergod » Mon Jan 11, 2016 5:32 pm

I just wondered if any of the early adopters of 17.3 XFCE have encountered the crashing bugs (file moving and renaming) that have plagued users in other distros using XFCE4.12. It's been so bad that many users have had to downgrade thunar to earlier versions or change file manager.

Anyone having problems?

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by GeneBenson » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:22 pm

Hi slumbergod,

The problem is with Thunar and glib-2.45. Here is the bug report. LM 17.3 is using version 2.40.2 (it's that old!).
So the issues you have heard about do not occur. All is well here. :D

As a side note I'm also running Debian tracking testing and all you've heard is true. :?

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by Quexos » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:25 pm

I have only had one oddity in two installs so far with my /home/username folder being root instead of user (on one of the installs), but I do not have a clue what caused that. If you can think of some things for me to do to test Thunar, I'm game, but so far it is behaving just like 17.2 did for me.

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by slumbergod » Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:56 pm

Hmmm, I might try 17.3 on my spare laptop then. It sounds like it will be comparable to the Xubuntu 15.04 experience.

I had to go back to Xubuntu 15.04 on my main machine and while that stopped thunar from crashing frequently (it still does on rare occasions) there are other issues...I move a file and a ghost version of the file moved reappears in the source folder requiring a manual refresh.

Catch-22 -- can't live without thunar (fast, light, familiar) but since 1.6.6 it has been plagued with issues to the point of being unusable.

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by Quexos » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:18 am

Hmmm. I've toyed with Xubuntu 15.10 and didn't notice anything (that doesn't mean much, I didn't use it more than a day or two). Maybe a program crash or two, but nothing major, nothing I don't get in Mint as well. I really liked the darker panel and whisker menu in Xubuntu though, instead of all this blah grey on blah grey. But, yeah, Mint Xfce is very similar to Xubuntu. Basically the same but with a couple programs different like, gmusicbrowser > banshee, mousepad > gedit. There was something in Xubuntu 15.10 that annoyed me, but I've forgotten what it was (I'm that old!) so I wound up back on Mint Xfce.

Edit: I remembered one. I once tried to delete the .Trash-1000 folder when it still had a deleted file in it...that crashed Thunar, but no big deal. It is Thunar 1.6.10 (xubuntu 15.10 and Manajaro 15.12 also has this version) in Mint 17.3 Xfce...for now.
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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by slumbergod » Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:36 pm

If 17.3 XFCE is using the tried and tested older base (through to 2019?) does that mean that the applications updated with new releases or are they also pegged at old versions?

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by Quexos » Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:41 am

I'm not sure what determines if things are updated or not, but yeah, a lot of applications are quite old. Like VLC 2.1.6 and Audacious in the repo is from 2014? Pretty old. Even file-roller (archive manager) is a very old version, which wouldn't be bad except that it is a very broken version, and there are newer versions that are totally stable and not broken in the ubuntu archives http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/m ... ile-roller. Why on earth they've left the broken one this long is beyond me.

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by slumbergod » Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:55 am

Thanks, I might be wishing for the impossible then. I'd like the stability of the older xfce base (upgrades for components when they are known to be stable) but with new versions of the apps I use (vlc, audacious etc).

I think I will go ahead and install 17.3 on the spare machine so I can play around and decide whether to stay with xubuntu 15.04 or go with 17.3 xfce.

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by Quexos » Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:41 am

You can always get newer versions from PPAs. I've dabbled with a Manjaro and Xubuntu but always wind up back on Mint 17.x because something or another doesn't work on the other ones and I'll settle for older media players to have a working filesync tool or whatever else didn't work elsewhere.

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by Uke » Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:40 am

After upgrading to 17.3 (stable) I had issues with Thunar
- sluggish behaviour when opening & refresh/list
- even more sluggish behaviour accessing usb sticks

Never encountered anything like this in previous releases.
Finally I installed Nautilus.

Georg

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by slumbergod » Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:22 am

FO
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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by MtnDewManiac » Sun Feb 07, 2016 11:55 am

slumbergod wrote:I still haven't found time to try out 17.3 Xfce on my spare laptop but since I started this thread Xubuntu 15.04 has come to end of life.

(It seems stupid to stop support after 9 months when all they have to do is stop it when the next release is out...
You would have been happier with only a six-month support period, lol?

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by slumbergod » Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:14 pm

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Re: Is Thunar Stable in 17.3?

Post by MtnDewManiac » Sun Feb 07, 2016 9:43 pm

slumbergod wrote:Who said anything about 6 months? The next version comes out in 2 months or so. Why stop support midday way? Was your pointless contribution trying to troll me?
Ubuntu versions don't come out every two months, they come out every SIX months. You were griping about Ubuntu's non-LTS versions only being supported nine months and wanted them to, instead, stop supporting a version when the next version gets released. As that occurs every six months...
slumbergod wrote:Who said anything about 6 months?
YOU did. :lol: :roll:

Nine months minus the number of months between release dates (six months) equals three months. You asked for the support period to be shortened by three months, lol.
slumbergod wrote:Why stop support midday way?
They don't. They give people until the next version comes out - PLUS three additional months for the procrastinators.
slumbergod wrote:Was your pointless contribution trying to troll me?
Pointless? The first... Instead of asking why people who CBA to upgrade versions in a timely manner don't simply stick with LTS versions (the extended length of support that comes with them), I merely reminded you that Ubuntu releases every six months. The second post (this one) could either be taken as a reminder to that or a basic maths lesson (whichever one out of the two happened to apply which caused your error in thinking).

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