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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by catweazel » Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:28 am

BigEasy wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:47 am
catweazel wrote:
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The other 5% being those who don't use a computer.
old himself
At 85 years old, I resemble that remark.
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by deepakdeshp » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:53 am

catweazel wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 1:28 am
BigEasy wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:47 am
catweazel wrote:
Sat Apr 07, 2018 11:30 pm
The other 5% being those who don't use a computer.
old himself
At 85 years old, I resemble that remark.
At 85 year old, you are still contributing meaningfully to the forum. Thats quite remarkable.
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by mediclaser » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:51 pm

WARNING: This post is for people with sense of humor only

Choose your OS by answering simple questions:

Code: Select all

   Are you an idiot? 
          |
    Yes   |    No
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  |                |
  |         Do you have life?
macOS              |
             Yes   |    No
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            |              |
         Windows         Linux
Disclaimer: This is not originally from me -- Just found it in the internet.

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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by Pierre » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:24 pm

How to choose your next Operating System.
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Please edit your original post title to include [SOLVED] - when your problem is solved!
and DO LOOK at those Unanswered Topics - - you may be able to answer some!.

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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by deepakdeshp » Sat Apr 14, 2018 4:02 pm

Pierre wrote:
Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:24 pm
How to choose your next Operating System.
The do you have a life , I couldn't decipher, and even don't know the figures in them.
Nice picture though, :)
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by xenopeek » Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:37 am

The complete chart for choosing an operating system is actually:

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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by killer de bug » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:43 am

Portreve wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:02 pm
As I said at the top of this message, I've seen this movie before. Now, I'm not trying to say this is all pointing towards the death of F/OSS, or GNU+Linux, or anything like that, but these are situations we do not need because you have bad architectural decisions casting an unwarranted and undeserved bad light on products and functionality.
Is it the fault of Libre Office if Microsoft locks the documents by using a proprietary file format?
Data HAVE to be saved in an open way or you are at risk not to be able to read them without huge costs after a few years.

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Which tend to state that MS and other closed Source oses are somehow patched quicker than closed source MS
Whoaaa really. :shock:
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by Portreve » Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:49 pm

killer de bug wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:43 am
Is it the fault of Libre Office if Microsoft locks the documents by using a proprietary file format?
Data HAVE to be saved in an open way or you are at risk not to be able to read them without huge costs after a few years.
I'm not sure how to respond to this because I do not understand how you arrived at this conclusion from what I wrote.
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by deepakdeshp » Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:37 pm

killer de bug wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:43 am
Portreve wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:02 pm
As I said at the top of this message, I've seen this movie before. Now, I'm not trying to say this is all pointing towards the death of F/OSS, or GNU+Linux, or anything like that, but these are situations we do not need because you have bad architectural decisions casting an unwarranted and undeserved bad light on products and functionality.
Is it the fault of Libre Office if Microsoft locks the documents by using a proprietary file format?
Data HAVE to be saved in an open way or you are at risk not to be able to read them without huge costs after a few years.

deepakdeshp wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:23 pm
Which tend to state that MS and other closed Source oses are somehow patched quicker than closed source MS
Whoaaa really. :shock:
The open source os in general and Linux in particular are tested by a huge number and hence the vulnerabilities are caught soon. Then the number of code fixers are numerous who work on the vulnerabilities and patch them sooner as compared to MS$
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by BigEasy » Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:04 pm

deepakdeshp wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:37 pm
The open source os in general and Linux in particular are tested by a huge number and hence the vulnerabilities are caught soon.
All Linux vulnerable code fixers and vulnerable code writers concentrated in Red Hat, SUSE, Debian and The Linux Kernel Organization. Testers are always we, regardless of OS. 3% of Linux marked comparing 88% of Winsows doesn't looks as huge number.
Then the number of code fixers are numerous who work on the vulnerabilities and patch them sooner as compared to MS$
Example, please.
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by Portreve » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:57 pm

deepakdeshp wrote:
Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:37 pm
The open source os in general and Linux in particular are tested by a huge number and hence the vulnerabilities are caught soon. Then the number of code fixers are numerous who work on the vulnerabilities and patch them sooner as compared to MS$
Exactly. Libre licensing and the architectural structure of the free software / open source community brings peer review to all such software, which is something proprietary code does not and will never have.

That's why I refuse (at least on my computer) to run (nearly) anything that's proprietary. Exceptions include Chrome's sandboxed Flash, and codecs for certain proprietary media formats.

As for my phone, well... At least Android is less closed-off than iOS.
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by catweazel » Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 pm

Portreve wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:57 pm
... free software / open source community brings peer review to all such software, which is something proprietary code does not and will never have.
I take it you've never worked as a software developer. Peer review is the key component in any software quality assurance process.
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by jimallyn » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:20 am

catweazel wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 pm
Peer review is the key component in any software quality assurance process.
The numbers I have seen suggest that at any given moment in time, there are approximately 300 people who have access to the Windows source code. Anybody with a computer and internet access has access to the Linux source code. I don't know exactly how many people are doing QA on Linux, but thousands of developers have made contributions to the Linux kernel.
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by catweazel » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:22 am

jimallyn wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:20 am
catweazel wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 pm
Peer review is the key component in any software quality assurance process.
The numbers I have seen suggest that at any given moment in time, there are approximately 300 people who have access to the Windows source code. Anybody with a computer and internet access has access to the Linux source code. I don't know exactly how many people are doing QA on Linux, but thousands of developers have made contributions to the Linux kernel.
Peer review only takes two people.
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by Portreve » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:15 pm

catweazel wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 pm
Portreve wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:57 pm
... free software / open source community brings peer review to all such software, which is something proprietary code does not and will never have.
I take it you've never worked as a software developer. Peer review is the key component in any software quality assurance process.
It doesn't take much effort to recognize Microsoft's "peer review" process has always sucked.
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Re: Bad Windows but conquering the desktop war

Post by deepakdeshp » Sun Apr 22, 2018 2:45 pm

catweazel wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:59 pm
Portreve wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 10:57 pm
... free software / open source community brings peer review to all such software, which is something proprietary code does not and will never have.
I take it you've never worked as a software developer. Peer review is the key component in any software quality assurance process.
Peer review is a review of code by another programmer with the writer of the code afaik.Consider this with the 10s of thousands of testers who test voluntarily the open source code.
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